Question for Christians: What Happened to the Gifts of the Magi?

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Question for Christians: What Happened to the Gifts of the Magi?

In the spirit of the season, I'd like to ask:  

What happened to the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh that  the 3 ayatollahs brought to the baby jesus?  

Were they used to bribe Herod's baby-killers into sparing the kid; as starting capital for jesus' ministry; or just to purchase Joseph's silence, so Mary could go on pretending to be a virgin?

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They were exchanged for

They were exchanged for something more useful, like warm clothes and blankets.


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FurryCatHerder wrote:They

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They were exchanged for something more useful, like warm clothes and blankets.

Why? I thought Jesus could just ask daddy for whatever he wanted. Couldn't he just ask for warm weather? He fed the thousands without any money, so why does he need to by clothes.

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The gifts were eventually

The gifts were eventually cast into the deepest part of the ocean where it went to stay with Cthulhu in his domain.  He didn't really care for the frankincense, but thought the gold was shiny and the myrrh he chewed on for a couple hundred years beating out any human attempt to chew gum for an extended amount of time, but because he's a dark god from another dimension, Guinness refused to acknowledge his record and now you know why most people fear his eventual return; he wants his recognition, damn it, and he'll GET IT.


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They were exchanged for something more useful, like warm clothes and blankets.

Why? I thought Jesus could just ask daddy for whatever he wanted. Couldn't he just ask for warm weather? He fed the thousands without any money, so why does he need to by clothes.

No clue.  Jews don't believe in Magic Sky Daddy type deities.

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zarathustra wrote:In the

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In the spirit of the season, I'd like to ask:  

What happened to the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh that  the 3 ayatollahs brought to the baby jesus?  

Were they used to bribe Herod's baby-killers into sparing the kid; as starting capital for jesus' ministry; or just to purchase Joseph's silence, so Mary could go on pretending to be a virgin?

Joseph spent it on cheap booze and loose women.  If the Catholics are correct and Joseph and Mary never bumped uglies that's what I would do.

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Watcher wrote:Joseph spent

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Joseph spent it on cheap booze and loose women. If the Catholics are correct and Joseph and Mary never bumped uglies that's what I would do.

Understandable -- although I don't think Nazareth was famous for its lap dances, based on the archaeology.  

Just seems a bit absurd that god would guide Beam, Daniels and Walker all the way from East Farooq to a toolshed in Betlehem, only to have their expensive merchandise squandered away without a trace. 

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FurryCatHerder wrote:EXC

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They were exchanged for something more useful, like warm clothes and blankets.

Why? I thought Jesus could just ask daddy for whatever he wanted. Couldn't he just ask for warm weather? He fed the thousands without any money, so why does he need to by clothes.

No clue.  Jews don't believe in Magic Sky Daddy type deities.

Well...technically...since you acknowledge the existence of El and Yahweh, you do believe in sky-gods.

You just don't consider them magic or daddies

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No clue.  Jews don't believe in Magic Sky Daddy type deities.

Well...technically...since you acknowledge the existence of El and Yahweh, you do believe in sky-gods.

You just don't consider them magic or daddies

Well ... technically ... I said "Magic Sky Daddy type deities."  My signature makes it pretty clear I do believe in Ha'El Ha'Kadosh Baruch Hu.

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FurryCatHerder

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No clue.  Jews don't believe in Magic Sky Daddy type deities.

Well...technically...since you acknowledge the existence of El and Yahweh, you do believe in sky-gods.

You just don't consider them magic or daddies

Well ... technically ... I said "Magic Sky Daddy type deities."  My signature makes it pretty clear I do believe in Ha'El Ha'Kadosh Baruch Hu.

So you have a daddy deity that lives in the sky that isn't a magic sky daddy type deity?

Or do you just not acknowledge him as a father (making him a magic sky deadbeat daddy type deity?

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That's what all three don't

That's what all three don't get. Why does everything have to be a fucking Broadway stage production?

And not only a production, but one with all those pretty stories that gloss over the nasty side of their super heros.

"Gifts nice" yea, but look at all the violence before during and after, just to set you up to go "awe, they gave him gifts"

The reality of the god/s of Abraham is that you get Frankenstein glossed over with frankincense. It would be as laughable as a b-horror movie if these gods were not believed to be real.

The god's of the literary line of Abraham are nothing but Maffia bosses who fool you with the gifts while holding your autonomy hostage under threat while bribing you with utopias that don't exist.

It is the same type of stage production crap that pro Wrestling and Jerry Springer use to sell their crap.

 

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