When religion and culture clash

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When religion and culture clash

A common argument I get is when religious folk say that by bashing on their religion you're also bashing on their culture. I was told by Muslims, Christians and Jews that their religious lifestyles are also cultural. So if you were to bash or argue with a muslim for women wearing a veil they can easily say "Well you're just insulting our culture etc etc" and that there are a lot of cultures whether religious or not that have irrational standards, laws points of view. So I tend to hear "If you're against our culture why aren't you against the other cultures that have irrational ways of living?"


So basically how do you try to argue with someone about their religion if they use "their culture" as a shield? I mean sure we could also just say "Well your culture sucks too"

any thoughts ?


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Dmasterman wrote:A common

Dmasterman wrote:

A common argument I get is when religious folk say that by bashing on their religion you're also bashing on their culture. I was told by Muslims, Christians and Jews that their religious lifestyles are also cultural. So if you were to bash or argue with a muslim for women wearing a veil they can easily say "Well you're just insulting our culture etc etc" and that there are a lot of cultures whether religious or not that have irrational standards, laws points of view. So I tend to hear "If you're against our culture why aren't you against the other cultures that have irrational ways of living?"


So basically how do you try to argue with someone about their religion if they use "their culture" as a shield? I mean sure we could also just say "Well your culture sucks too"

any thoughts ?

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The biggest threat to rational discourse after religion is culture. The arguments are often similar. But it all boils down to endless repetition of generally pointless and often harmful activities through generations without the majority applying critical thought to the consequences.

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Vastet wrote:The biggest

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The biggest threat to rational discourse after religion is culture. The arguments are often similar. But it all boils down to endless repetition of generally pointless and often harmful activities through generations without the majority applying critical thought to the consequences.

If Rednef cant beat his tactic into me anymore than I can beat my tactic into him, how does force work better than appeal? All humans can do is appeal. I think the best thing while doing that is having the ability to laugh at oneself.

 

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