Inviting all to tell their stories on how religion has negitively affected them.
In light of recent events I find it highly important for both the atheists and theists that we know and love to read these stories. Please post your personal story about how religion negatively affected you below.
I'll start with my own personal experience. Now, when someone is so obtuse and cant be reasoned with, what do you do?
Now some here have doubts as to tactic and seem to think we should always be polite. I now think about my own encounter which what some do not understand was a CHRISTIAN boss who defended me. I worked in a "right to work state", which basically is cover for the boss to fire you and lie about it because you cant prove otherwise.
I worked at a pizza place and had a simple black and white bumper sticker on my pick up on the back window that said "www.atheistnetwork.com" . A parent wanted to have me fired because he was offended by it and his kid saw it too. Must have hated "Daddy, what's an atheist"? It didn't say "fuck" or "Shit" but the mere presence of "atheist" TO THAT GUY it might has well been porn. He called to try and have me fired. So if people want to know why I am so harsh on religion, that is just my personal story, thats not even the worst that goes on every day arround the the world in the form of violence and war and murder.
Now, what you don't know is that it was a CHRISTIAN who defended me, my boss at the time. Now, there are places where a fundie might be a boss and the atheist could get fired without even ever knowing that was the reason, especially in a right to work state. I just feel lucky that I had the boss I did at the time.
If humans would learn to separate the person from what the person claims and treat each claim as a separate issue, things like what happened to me, and far worse things that happen even to theists all over the world, could be avoided even more. It is because of blasphemy and ridicule that keeps fascism at bay, ANY TYPE of fascism, state or religious.
I know of an atheist a long time ago, when I first got online we found out that he was kicked out of his apartment because his landlord found out. I have also seen the story of an atheist girl on a public school basketball team get victimized not only by other students, but by the teachers themselves. These are just a couple of stories I know of. I am quite sure others here can tell their own, of what they have had happened to them or what they have seen in the news themselves.
Now, to say I am harsh on religion for no reason is absurd. I also am inviting theists here, who have dealt with their own discrimination from other theists. Say for example anti-Christian Muslims or anti-Muslim Jews, or anti-Muslim Christians. The point in this thread is to show that LABELS do not make someone automatically good or bad, not even atheists. I see it in the actions of theists on this website sometimes, but I also see the hate that exists from all labels. To say that this does not deserve harsh treatment or a taboo should be set up does a disservice to our species. When there still exists today, cultures who teach their men that women can be shot to death on a soccer field with no trial for the accusation and mere "eyewitness testimony" of other men taught that Allah gave them the right to treat women as mere baby factories, what do you want me to say to things like that? To claim we should be always polite is absurd.
But no religion, no politician no individual deserves special treatment, not even atheists. My tactic here isn't to offend simply to be a dick "just because I can". It is a display in the value of scrutiny. That as long as we are ALL free to say what we want, the harm of dogmatism and fascism cannot nor ever can take hold. It is also SHOW that absurd claims on a mass scale can and do cause harm. And as long as any human has the ability to make absurd claims, it is important to be able to thrash those claims.
There ARE Sunnis in Iran and non-Muslims and even gays in Iran, who to get along, cant do it through consent, and are forced to get along through silence. Shiites in Saudi Arabia and non-Muslims have to do the same. Arab Muslims living in Israel have to do that and non-Muslim Arabs in Palestine have to do that.
I want to foster a better attitude for our species. One were we treat each other as individuals. I will not say I am sorry when the core claim of all of this starts with the idea of a non material invisible brain. It is one thing to claim it and as much as I hate the claim itself, I am well aware that there ARE good people who do make these claims. But we cannot make blanket statements about words or tactics as absolute solutions when the world is diverse and problem solving is never always as simple as "be nice no matter what".
So even in a "free speech" country it is still possible to get fired for being ANYTHING, when people complain about me I think about the atheists and theists who have it far worse than hearing "bullshit". In a lot of places around the world being on the wrong team politically or religiously can get you arrested, censored, or even murdered.
Freud said it best "The first person to hurl an insult instead of a stone, started civilization." I wont get rid of religion, I know that, and there are lots of religious people I love. I merely would like to help foster the attitude that a harsh word is far better than a bullet or bomb and if the majority of our population would think like that, the horrible actions humans inflict on each other in our history could be minimized. Setting up taboos is not the goal we should have. Recognizing that we are all human should be our goal, both recognizing the good and the bad our entire species has always had in common.
Now I've told you a couple of stories I know of and my own personal story, I am opening this thread to all, both theists and atheists. Tell me how you have been harmed by theism. This does include theists too.
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