How come escorts are so pricy?

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How come escorts are so pricy?

300 dollars for an hour of time with one? Is the economy this bad?


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Zeeboe wrote:300 dollars for

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300 dollars for an hour of time with one? Is the economy this bad?

 

Basic supply and demand. People will pay it, so they charge it. Some are substantially more expensive than that, some are cheaper depending on area and quality. I don't think it really says anything negative about the economy. That they can still presumably attract customers at those prices indicates that there are still people willing to spend that much cash.

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Eh, there are legal things one can do with an escort. Smiling Which is exactly why I'd prefer not to pay 300 dollars for the minor and legal things I need to do. A hundred would be my limit, and even that I think is being insane. I'm desperate as hell, but I can't pay what is half my rent for just one hour, especially if I'm not even gonna have sex, but just fool around.

Even phone sex is sometimes crazy on the prices. Of course, I am turned off by phone sex now after discovering those voices behind the phone aren't the actual ladies on the website. I spoke to one once in a chat...she actually told me that the picture wasn't her own, and I caught another one off guard. She thought I was one of the girls, and told me the picture wasn't hers when I asked. She quit afterwards because she felt so bad. I think I always knew it was a scam, but didn't care, and still don't to an extent. A sexy voice is a sexy voice.

 

I might be wrong, but the Adult business in my city has let me down. For example, I posted an ad on the local adult section backpages.com. No responses. Sad Except from some confused caribbean guy who thought I was a woman for some reason.

....I might go to Las Vegas in the Spring. The waiting is gonna bite, but I can count on Sin City. I've been there many, many times, and it's Perv Central. I usually get more bang for my buck. No pun intended. But ya go to a strip club, get a few drinks, and a few lap dances, etc. I even thought about going to a Peep Show, even though the only one in Vegas is kind of on seedy side from what I read. And some of the reviews I read were bad, and talked about how some of the women look like crack addicts, but it's pretty damn cheap, and I've never done the Peep Show thing before, so it may be worth checking out just for the experience. I also would love to go to the Bunny Ranch for the night.

I *also* may be able to go to London, England next year. Been wanting to go there for years just for the women alone cause I've heard some of the sex clubs they have in London....cannot even be described. I'm really, really dying to see one of their BDSM clubs, which again I understand are world famous.

 

 

...Yeah, for the curious, you can see why I posted this thread on this side of the forum now I think. Smiling


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You would think with the bad economy, prices would go down.  I guesss it's an up and down business, you got to know the ins and outs, you don't want to someone to rub you the wrong way. You don't want to get fucked over, or maybe you do.

Why not go to church, marry a Christian woman? You can point to the verses in the bible where it is her duty to God to put out for her husband. You can be like so many men and be PWed into 'believing'.

 

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Zeeboe wrote:Eh, there are

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Eh, there are legal things one can do with an escort. Smiling Which is exactly why I'd prefer not to pay 300 dollars for the minor and legal things I need to do. A hundred would be my limit, and even that I think is being insane. I'm desperate as hell, but I can't pay what is half my rent for just one hour, especially if I'm not even gonna have sex, but just fool around.

Even phone sex is sometimes crazy on the prices. Of course, I am turned off by phone sex now after discovering those voices behind the phone aren't the actual ladies on the website. I spoke to one once in a chat...she actually told me that the picture wasn't her own, and I caught another one off guard. She thought I was one of the girls, and told me the picture wasn't hers when I asked. She quit afterwards because she felt so bad. I think I always knew it was a scam, but didn't care, and still don't to an extent. A sexy voice is a sexy voice.

 

I might be wrong, but the Adult business in my city has let me down. For example, I posted an ad on the local adult section backpages.com. No responses. Sad Except from some confused caribbean guy who thought I was a woman for some reason.

....I might go to Las Vegas in the Spring. The waiting is gonna bite, but I can count on Sin City. I've been there many, many times, and it's Perv Central. I usually get more bang for my buck. No pun intended. But ya go to a strip club, get a few drinks, and a few lap dances, etc. I even thought about going to a Peep Show, even though the only one in Vegas is kind of on seedy side from what I read. And some of the reviews I read were bad, and talked about how some of the women look like crack addicts, but it's pretty damn cheap, and I've never done the Peep Show thing before, so it may be worth checking out just for the experience. I also would love to go to the Bunny Ranch for the night.

I *also* may be able to go to London, England next year. Been wanting to go there for years just for the women alone cause I've heard some of the sex clubs they have in London....cannot even be described. I'm really, really dying to see one of their BDSM clubs, which again I understand are world famous.

 

 

...Yeah, for the curious, you can see why I posted this thread on this side of the forum now I think. Smiling

 

Have you checked for BDSM meetup groups near where you live? In some areas they are quite active and have private parties usually at one of the members homes and you can watch/participate depending on your preference.  

 

If you do go to Nevada I would suggest skipping the bunny ranch in favor of one of the other nice brothels. I have never been there myself, but from what I hear it is overpriced because of the publicity it has received. And even at a less expensive brothel you're going to be looking at $600-$1000+ an hour. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:Zeeboe

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Eh, there are legal things one can do with an escort. Smiling Which is exactly why I'd prefer not to pay 300 dollars for the minor and legal things I need to do. A hundred would be my limit, and even that I think is being insane. I'm desperate as hell, but I can't pay what is half my rent for just one hour, especially if I'm not even gonna have sex, but just fool around.

Even phone sex is sometimes crazy on the prices. Of course, I am turned off by phone sex now after discovering those voices behind the phone aren't the actual ladies on the website. I spoke to one once in a chat...she actually told me that the picture wasn't her own, and I caught another one off guard. She thought I was one of the girls, and told me the picture wasn't hers when I asked. She quit afterwards because she felt so bad. I think I always knew it was a scam, but didn't care, and still don't to an extent. A sexy voice is a sexy voice.

 

I might be wrong, but the Adult business in my city has let me down. For example, I posted an ad on the local adult section backpages.com. No responses. Sad Except from some confused caribbean guy who thought I was a woman for some reason.

....I might go to Las Vegas in the Spring. The waiting is gonna bite, but I can count on Sin City. I've been there many, many times, and it's Perv Central. I usually get more bang for my buck. No pun intended. But ya go to a strip club, get a few drinks, and a few lap dances, etc. I even thought about going to a Peep Show, even though the only one in Vegas is kind of on seedy side from what I read. And some of the reviews I read were bad, and talked about how some of the women look like crack addicts, but it's pretty damn cheap, and I've never done the Peep Show thing before, so it may be worth checking out just for the experience. I also would love to go to the Bunny Ranch for the night.

I *also* may be able to go to London, England next year. Been wanting to go there for years just for the women alone cause I've heard some of the sex clubs they have in London....cannot even be described. I'm really, really dying to see one of their BDSM clubs, which again I understand are world famous.

 

 

...Yeah, for the curious, you can see why I posted this thread on this side of the forum now I think. Smiling

 

Have you checked for BDSM meetup groups near where you live? In some areas they are quite active and have private parties usually at one of the members homes and you can watch/participate depending on your preference.  

 

If you do go to Nevada I would suggest skipping the bunny ranch in favor of one of the other nice brothels. I have never been there myself, but from what I hear it is overpriced because of the publicity it has received. And even at a less expensive brothel you're going to be looking at $600-$1000+ an hour. 

There isn't a woman in the world that is worth that hourly rate.Personally i almost choke at the prices some of the street walkers here cost. Not that I take advantage of there services but I cannot believe people are whiling to pay that much.

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Well, if you are looking for

Well, if you are looking for the Wal Mart Special, all you have to do is become a Catholic priest and find an alter boy for your "escort", thats free, and god watches too.

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lol. No thanks. I'll stick

lol. No thanks. I'll stick with the women. I actually found this one ad on backpage of a Mother and Daughter dom team out in Vegas. Turns out they were on Springer once. 600 dollars for both of them. 300 for one of them. One hour only. I'll probably. go with the daughter since she looks like she's around my age. I mean, that would make for a good story at least. - I got whipped and beaten by someone who was on Jerry Springer. Yay!


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Well, prostitution, be it

Well, prostitution, be it take out, delivery or street corner food cart are all illegal in Vegas. They get away with it by linguistic loopholes when advertising, but the bottom line in Vegas, paying for sex, no matter how it is done, is illegal.

It is one of those things that the people who run the "escort" services, do it untill they get caught. "Escort" by itself is not illegal when there is no paid sex involved. So if an employee has sex without the knowledge of the boss "wink wink" they are the ones who take the fall, or at least that is how the boss tries to set it up.

Now there ARE a couple of counties, such as where the Bunny Ranch is, where prostitution in the form of a brothel IS legal, but in the City of Vegas, it isn't.

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From the sound of things

From the sound of things you'd be better of becoming an escort yourself. Save some money, make some money, meet some interesting people...

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See, I'd be an epic defense

See, I'd be an epic defense lawyer because I am not saying I wanna have sex with escorts. There are a billion legal things I can do with them however, such as a private lap dance, or just kinky things, and that's honestly what I have in mind. It's true that paid sex goes on all the time, but I'd honestly prefer not to take the risk, especially when again, there's other legal stuff I can do that will make me happy. I'm also actually a very lawful guy, and a big supporter of police departments everywhere, including the Las Vegas P.D. who have a very hard job.

But on the topic of paying for sex - I personally think it should be 100% legal. It's victimless crime. As long as it's *adults only*....(as in 21 and older. Not even 18 or 19).....being apart of it, and no one is forced to do anything against their will, and a Doctor checks these men and women out who are doing it for a living, and there's legal work, and there's rubbers and all that stuff, I really don't see how it's hurting our society. I blame the Christians for this stupid law.

In regards of the Bunny Ranch - Now that is a place I'd love to check it out. Not just for the women, but just going out there, and seeing it would be adventure. It's like a porno haunted house in a way. It has a pretty good rep, but remember, I'm Mr. Cheap Bastard in the flesh, and that place is pricy as hell. That's where the Wallstreet guys, and the famous people go to get some.


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Zeeboe wrote:But on the

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But on the topic of paying for sex - I personally think it should be 100% legal. It's victimless crime. As long as it's *adults only*....(as in 21 and older. Not even 18 or 19).....being apart of it, and no one is forced to do anything against their will, and a Doctor checks these men and women out who are doing it for a living, and there's legal work, and there's rubbers and all that stuff, I really don't see how it's hurting our society. I blame the Christians for this stupid law.

 

Why 21 instead of 18? When you're 18 your old enough to be sent into war and get your ass shot at. I think you ought to be able to get a hooker or three before you go. (and a few dozen stiff drinks too) Other than that I agree with you. I think keeping prostitution illegal causes far more harm because it makes prostitution dangerous since disputes can't be handled in the legal system.

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Beyond Saving wrote:Why 21

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Why 21 instead of 18? When you're 18 your old enough to be sent into war and get your ass shot at. I think you ought to be able to get a hooker or three before you go. (and a few dozen stiff drinks too)

i don't know about the hookers, but some of my friends in the military have told me that drinks are readily available for underage inductees on US bases, and that top brass make it a policy to look the other way.

but i'm all for hookers too.  let's not forget that that nickname comes from the famous union general who kept a corps of "servicewomen" at the ready in order to boost morale.

politicians can kiss my ass with their wars, but fuck yeah i support the troops.

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Alright, good point. I was

Alright, good point. I was just attempting to be diplomatic, and figured let the adult teens stay "innocent" for a little bit longer to please the Christian crowd. I suspect most would object to a 40-something year old man doing an 18-year old woman, but I'm an all or nothing guy for the most part, and I support out troops, so yeah, I could support an 18 and up policy.


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Try lowering your standards...the price will adjust accordingly (I've heard). 


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Why 21 instead of 18? When you're 18 your old enough to be sent into war and get your ass shot at. I think you ought to be able to get a hooker or three before you go. (and a few dozen stiff drinks too)

i don't know about the hookers, but some of my friends in the military have told me that drinks are readily available for underage inductees on US bases, and that top brass make it a policy to look the other way.

but i'm all for hookers too.  let's not forget that that nickname comes from the famous union general who kept a corps of "servicewomen" at the ready in order to boost morale.

politicians can kiss my ass with their wars, but fuck yeah i support the troops.

 

 

                 Gen.Hooker was very liberal minded about the hookers'  but they were called hookers before that.

 

 

                  One much  older story is that the prostitutes sat nearest the wall near the front door,  where the coat hooks were, waiting for their buisness. Another story is [this one I find mosts likely] the street walkers would walk up behind potential clients and hook them arm in arm to make their pitch.   Just don't tell my wife I know that.

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Zeeboe wrote:Eh, there are

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Eh, there are legal things one can do with an escort. Smiling Which is exactly why I'd prefer not to pay 300 dollars for the minor and legal things I need to do. A hundred would be my limit, and even that I think is being insane. I'm desperate as hell, but I can't pay what is half my rent for just one hour, especially if I'm not even gonna have sex, but just fool around.

Even phone sex is sometimes crazy on the prices. Of course, I am turned off by phone sex now after discovering those voices behind the phone aren't the actual ladies on the website. I spoke to one once in a chat...she actually told me that the picture wasn't her own, and I caught another one off guard. She thought I was one of the girls, and told me the picture wasn't hers when I asked. She quit afterwards because she felt so bad. I think I always knew it was a scam, but didn't care, and still don't to an extent. A sexy voice is a sexy voice.

 

I might be wrong, but the Adult business in my city has let me down. For example, I posted an ad on the local adult section backpages.com. No responses. Sad Except from some confused caribbean guy who thought I was a woman for some reason.

....I might go to Las Vegas in the Spring. The waiting is gonna bite, but I can count on Sin City. I've been there many, many times, and it's Perv Central. I usually get more bang for my buck. No pun intended. But ya go to a strip club, get a few drinks, and a few lap dances, etc. I even thought about going to a Peep Show, even though the only one in Vegas is kind of on seedy side from what I read. And some of the reviews I read were bad, and talked about how some of the women look like crack addicts, but it's pretty damn cheap, and I've never done the Peep Show thing before, so it may be worth checking out just for the experience. I also would love to go to the Bunny Ranch for the night.

I *also* may be able to go to London, England next year. Been wanting to go there for years just for the women alone cause I've heard some of the sex clubs they have in London....cannot even be described. I'm really, really dying to see one of their BDSM clubs, which again I understand are world famous.

 

 

...Yeah, for the curious, you can see why I posted this thread on this side of the forum now I think. Smiling

...or you could just go to a bar, a club, a Walmart, etc and, uh... talk to a girl, and possibly get some free sex? Ya think? You'd seriously rather pay hundreds or 1000s of dollars just to avoid swallowing your pride if a girl happens to say "no" or thinks you're a loser? Sad, dude, sad. Even when I was a virgin, I'd never even considered paying for sex, dolls, or anything like that, and even if I had done so I'd have sooner died than ever admit it, online or off. How about you spend $30 on a dating advice book (Carlos Xuma comes to mind) and learn how to interact with real women, instead of debating whether to choose between rent and a hooker just because you're too lazy and lacking in honor to learn how to get sex the real way? Ever think of that? Loooser.

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Eh, there are legal things one can do with an escort. Smiling Which is exactly why I'd prefer not to pay 300 dollars for the minor and legal things I need to do. A hundred would be my limit, and even that I think is being insane. I'm desperate as hell, but I can't pay what is half my rent for just one hour, especially if I'm not even gonna have sex, but just fool around.

Even phone sex is sometimes crazy on the prices. Of course, I am turned off by phone sex now after discovering those voices behind the phone aren't the actual ladies on the website. I spoke to one once in a chat...she actually told me that the picture wasn't her own, and I caught another one off guard. She thought I was one of the girls, and told me the picture wasn't hers when I asked. She quit afterwards because she felt so bad. I think I always knew it was a scam, but didn't care, and still don't to an extent. A sexy voice is a sexy voice.

 

I might be wrong, but the Adult business in my city has let me down. For example, I posted an ad on the local adult section backpages.com. No responses. Sad Except from some confused caribbean guy who thought I was a woman for some reason.

....I might go to Las Vegas in the Spring. The waiting is gonna bite, but I can count on Sin City. I've been there many, many times, and it's Perv Central. I usually get more bang for my buck. No pun intended. But ya go to a strip club, get a few drinks, and a few lap dances, etc. I even thought about going to a Peep Show, even though the only one in Vegas is kind of on seedy side from what I read. And some of the reviews I read were bad, and talked about how some of the women look like crack addicts, but it's pretty damn cheap, and I've never done the Peep Show thing before, so it may be worth checking out just for the experience. I also would love to go to the Bunny Ranch for the night.

I *also* may be able to go to London, England next year. Been wanting to go there for years just for the women alone cause I've heard some of the sex clubs they have in London....cannot even be described. I'm really, really dying to see one of their BDSM clubs, which again I understand are world famous.

 

 

...Yeah, for the curious, you can see why I posted this thread on this side of the forum now I think. Smiling

...or you could just go to a bar, a club, a Walmart, etc and, uh... talk to a girl, and possibly get some free sex? Ya think? You'd seriously rather pay hundreds or 1000s of dollars just to avoid swallowing your pride if a girl happens to say "no" or thinks you're a loser? Sad, dude, sad. Even when I was a virgin, I'd never even considered paying for sex, dolls, or anything like that, and even if I had done so I'd have sooner died than ever admit it, online or off. How about you spend $30 on a dating advice book (Carlos Xuma comes to mind) and learn how to interact with real women, instead of debating whether to choose between rent and a hooker just because you're too lazy and lacking in honor to learn how to get sex the real way? Ever think of that? Loooser.

Nothing wrong with paying for sex, really none of any of our business? Its like homosexuality, what two consenting adults do is none of our business. Why do you care what two consenting  adults do?

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...or you could just go to a bar, a club, a Walmart, etc and, uh... talk to a girl, and possibly get some free sex? Ya think? You'd seriously rather pay hundreds or 1000s of dollars just to avoid swallowing your pride if a girl happens to say "no" or thinks you're a loser? Sad, dude, sad. Even when I was a virgin, I'd never even considered paying for sex, dolls, or anything like that, and even if I had done so I'd have sooner died than ever admit it, online or off. How about you spend $30 on a dating advice book (Carlos Xuma comes to mind) and learn how to interact with real women, instead of debating whether to choose between rent and a hooker just because you're too lazy and lacking in honor to learn how to get sex the real way? Ever think of that? Loooser.

 

The real way? I wasn't aware there was a "real" way to have sex. If you are not interested in a relationship I think hiring a prostitute is a lot kinder than picking up some woman in a bar, using her for the night and never talking to her again. Additionally, even though everyone thinks they are great at sex, sex is a skill. Someone who does it for a living is generally going to be more skilled than the average drunk woman you pick up.

 

Also ime, they are a lot more safety conscious since an STD could ruin their livelihood. Unless you are hiring a crack addict streetwalker for $20, I would be willing to bet the odds of you getting a disease from a prostitute is lower than the risk of getting one from the bar whore who sleeps with anyone for a few drinks (especially if you go to legal brothels where STDs are virtually non-existent). 

 

And really, when you date a woman it usually costs money. You take her out to eat and buy some drinks and the bill is easily $100. The feminism movement is all well and good, but most women still expect/want the guy to pick up the tab. So you're probably paying either way. The only real question is if you are interested in a relationship outside of sex, or if you simply want sex. Relationships and sex often go hand in hand, but there is no rational reason you can't have one without the other. You can have sex without a relationship or you can have a relationship without sex. 

 

 

And if having sex with her makes me a loooser, sign me up, loser I will be. 

 

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I AM a loser. Self-admitted.

I AM a loser. Self-admitted. I'm not bitching or crying about it, but all those cliche things about perverts and weirdos such applies 100% to me. I have a lot of issues, and I am ugly, and weird as hell. I can't help it. Honest. Despite the eccentric characteristics, I am still human and I am alive, and like any living creature, I have needs that have to be taken care of. It's no different then sleeping or eating. Sometimes I wish I didn't have this drive and would welcome castration.

I'm also pushing 30, and I'm burned out, so I've given up, and just gonna work within the system instead of fighting with it. Life and me have a major love/hate relationship. As I've aged, I've learned I need to be diplomatic with it in order for us to get along. One of the deals is - I can dive in the pool of porn and adult entertainment all I want, but I have to stay away from decent and sane women. If I don't stay on my own turf, and wander anywhere near a real woman, life gets very pissy, and we fight, and life usually wins.

I'm pretty much an open book, and it's hard for me to be embarrassed. A lot of it has to do with the fact that growing up, being phony was a way of life in my family. I won't bore you with all the details, but instead offer this - As a result, I'm almost too open, but I'm willing to pay whatever prices come with it. For me, it's better then being a fake, or just telling a half-ass story. I need it to be all or nothing.


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...or you could just go to a bar, a club, a Walmart, etc and, uh... talk to a girl, and possibly get some free sex? Ya think? You'd seriously rather pay hundreds or 1000s of dollars just to avoid swallowing your pride if a girl happens to say "no" or thinks you're a loser? Sad, dude, sad. Even when I was a virgin, I'd never even considered paying for sex, dolls, or anything like that, and even if I had done so I'd have sooner died than ever admit it, online or off. How about you spend $30 on a dating advice book (Carlos Xuma comes to mind) and learn how to interact with real women, instead of debating whether to choose between rent and a hooker just because you're too lazy and lacking in honor to learn how to get sex the real way? Ever think of that? Loooser.

what the fuck, dude?  self-righteous much?  are you still "recovering," or having a relapse?

i'm happily married, faithful, didn't have a crazy amount of girls before my wife, and always enjoyed the hunt as much or more than the sex.  i always did the "honorable" thing, and as far as i know left no hard feelings behind me.  i certainly never even considered the possibility of paying for sex.

that being said, i can understand a guy who hates the hunt, hates most women's conversation, hates the whole charade that often surrounds the relatively simple act of fucking, or maybe just doesn't have time for it, and wants to skip all the bullshit and just get his rocks off.  i can respect a guy who understands that, contrary to popular female belief, no woman's pussy is priceless--quite the contrary, some indeed have set prices. 

you know why the majority of women think their pussies are priceless?  because in actuality, the majority of women's pussies are worthless.  a woman who knows how much hers is worth and is up front about it?  well, hers is probably worth it. 

and a woman who knows how much her company is worth and is up front about it (and Zeeboe says company is what he's looking for)?  jeeeesus christ, i suddenly understand that richard gere character.  there's a reason why, throughout history, the best courtesans were trained in the classics, music, dance, etc., and the men who did get them could have gotten any woman they wanted.  so why didn't they do it the "real" way?  hmmmm...

well, you tell me what's hotter: a bar skank working on her GED who can easily be had "for free," or a very expensive young lady who can discuss plato and the rig veda with you before draining your balls to depths you didn't know existed, using methods you've never heard of.

stop besmirching apollo creed's likeness and open your fucking mind.

"I asked my father,
I said, 'Father change my name.'
The one I'm using now it's covered up
with fear and filth and cowardice and shame."
--Leonard Cohen


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I am a massive Rocky nerd,

I am a massive Rocky nerd, so I love the Apollo Creed ava. Smiling

But thanks guys for defending me, and bringing up some good points. One of those points, and I've mentioned this before too - You date a woman a few times, and no matter where you live, we men are still expected to pay for everything. When and if you finally get some, if you were to add up the amount of the cost of the dates, it's pretty close to what you would pay for live adult entertainment.

And yeah, at least I am being open and honest, and not being like some guys who tell a woman a bunch of lies, do her once or a few times, then dump her forever. What I'm doing is a pretty even and fair exchange.


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 Fucking A, great response.

 Fucking A, great response.  Saved me the hassle of putting him in his place


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Hello

Hello,

See, you guys are a bunch of perverted bastards. You even know that you're a loser, you guys have just admitted this. See, in the practice world you get convicted. That's because you are the Image of God. You know what you do is wrong by nature and you do it anyways because you bastards hate God and are selfish and only love yourself.

you hypocrites are so inconsistent. You're one thing in the hypothetical, and another in the practicle. You guys are like schizo's.

Well, you dirty filthy bastards, rot in hell, in Jesus's Name.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).


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LOL.

LOL. Maybe God shouldn't have made us into such horny animals then. It's his fault. Even if he's real, he's a prick who is not worthy of my worship. If I thought God was real, I'd worship Satan.

And what is so horrible about enjoying sex anyhow? The one rule Christians break more then anyone is that whole sex before marriage thing, and they jerk-off too.

See, sex and sexual things are very powerful and I think it's cruel to make human beings to have such strong desires, but then tease them, and deny them like God does. That is what is awesome about being an Atheist. You believe this is the only life you're going to get up, so you're free to enjoy sexual things all you desire, and you don't feel ashamed afterwards.

 

Fuck God. Smiling See the rest of ya'll at the orgy in Hell! Hail Satan! 666!


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Hi Pervert

Pervert,

God made you horny so as to enjoy your wife. Plural wives in the Bible was a disobedience to God which they have given an account for already.

The Puritans were pretty wild sexually but it was with their own wive.

Since you dishonor your own vessel, you then become a kind of a loser like you said. The consequences God gives decrees for you are STD's like the homo disease AIDS or herpies or whatever.

but my point is that you guys are hypocrites. You say one thing in the theoretical and another in the practicle, you know this and because of this, on judgement day, when youre thrown in the pit of fire and torment and torture you will have absolutely no excuse.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).


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666

 I figure that I will get use to Hell, much like one gets use to the water whenever they sit in a hot tub. In any case, if God is real, Satan will protect me. He has done a good job so far. The reason why God does not destroy Satan is because God is weak. All God does is talk a lot of trash. Satan gets shit done. Infact, Hell is an awesome place. We just say it is bad to get Christians away. And when Satan kills God one day, it will be you who is punished by the true Lord. Infact, Satan may have already killed God. God use to make appearances all the time in the bible. He has been idle for a very long time now. Perhaps your punishment will be that you will waste the only life you will ever get sucking on the cock of a dead tyrant.

And whether I am a hypocrite or not is irreverent. That is one of the many great things about not being a Christian - We are not expected to follow any bullshit rules.