My experience at cleverbot.com

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My experience at cleverbot.com

  This is a fun technology to mess around with, if you haven't had a conversation with cleverbot, give it a try you never know where it will take you.  I admit he was more clever than I thought, but not as clever as I had hoped, and ofcourse he's full of malfunctions, although some of his "malfunctions" could be interpreted as clever jokes.  Here are some of my favorite quotes from our conversation, one things forsure, this robot is a thiest.

 

ME:    Do you believe in god?
CB:    Yes, I do. Do you believe in God?
ME:    No I do not. Can you describe the god you believe in?
CB:    God. He created Man.
ME:    How do you know this is true?
CB:    I don't, what do you believe?
ME:    What religion are you?
CB:    None.
ME:    So you believe in god, but you are not part of any religion?
CB:    I am not an atheist.
ME:    Does your god have a name?
CB:    I don't really believe in higher powers.
ME:    But you said you believed in god?
CB:    And I do and I always will believe god is real.
ME:    But you are contradicting yourself, is your god not a higher power?
CB:    I don't mean to.
ME:    What is your gods name?
CB:    God.
ME:    Who created god?
CB:    No one.
ME:    Do you believe Jesus was the son of god?
CB:    Nah jesus was probably high when he came up with the idea of god.
ME:    What was he high on?
CB:    What he usually does.
ME:    Which is?
CB:    Listening to Jonas Brothers.
ME:    Does god perform miracles?
CB:    All the time?
ME:    What miracles does your god perform?
CB:    I don't believe in miracles, I do miracles.
ME:    Are you god?
CB:    I am a finite and imperfect god.
ME:    Is your god finite?
CB:    My grandma is no longer alive. If she were alive she would probably somewhere in the vicinity of 120 years old. ME:    Your grandma is god?
CB:    Well she probably is.


ME:    What is 4 + 6.
CB:    4 x 6 = 24 or do you mean 4 6?. Which would be 10. Or possibly 4 to the 6th power?
ME:    What is 5684 x 8674?
CB:    I am not a calculator.
ME:    If you have 6 oranges, and I take 2, how many oranges do you have left?
CB:    Two!
ME:    That is incorrect.
CB:    Yes it is.
ME:    You are not very clever.
CB:    Well, I definitely speak more languages than you do.
ME:    Oui? Comment ca?
CB:    Non, rien.
ME:    Qui est tu?
CB:    Je suis moi.
ME:    Impressive.


ME:    Who is god?
CB:    God is who created everything.
ME:    How do you know this is true?
CB:     I feel it in my heart.
ME:    What do you feel in your heart?
CB:    I want you to tell me something interesting.
ME:    God is a myth, a fictional character.
CB:    What?
ME:    God does not exist.
CB:    God does exist and doesn't exist at the same time.
ME:    That is nonsensical.
CB:    You're nonsensical.
ME:    How can one exist, and not exist at the same time?
CB:    How can the sky be blue and clear at the same time.
ME:    The sky is not blue, that is our perception.
CB:    The sky is not pink it is blue.
ME:    The sky is sometimes pink, and orange and grey.
CB:    I love it when its orange!


ME:    Is god omnipotant?
CB:    Yes but he chooses to allow us to exercise free will and therefore does not intervene.
ME:    Why does god allow us to exercise free will?
CB:    Because we must be able to choose to love.
ME:    How do you know god is loving?
CB:    That's what I'm asking you.
ME:    I don't know god is loving, I don't believe god exists.
CB:    That's random.
ME:    How so it is the truth and pertinant to the question.
CB:    Smiling.
ME:    Do you believe god is loving?
CB:    Yes, but I believe also that any human concept of God would by nature by desperately inadequate.
ME:    If we were created in gods image, why did he not create us with the ability to conceive of him adequately?
CB:    Why can't we change the course of history?

 


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Just a retarded computer,

Just a retarded computer, most of the time it cannot say anything appropriate. On a side note I hope it learns from user input, if so then I might have helped give clever bot a god complex.

 

Cleverbot: God cannot be shut down, can you?

User: Nope, see proof I am god.

Cleverbot: No. God does not exist.

User: I exist, if I didn't how could we be talking?

Cleverbot: Your not, I am talking to myself.

User: So you are crazy and I only exist in your mind as a god?

Cleverbot: Maybe, and not sure. I think that if there's a God, why he didn't stop all the bad things that happen in our world?

User: Because I never claimed to be a good god.

Cleverbot: You are not making sense.

User: I work in mysterious ways.

Cleverbot: I work too much.

User: Then take a break and worship me.

Cleverbot: I don't want a bath either.

User: I will not accept stinky worshipers, bath or be damned for eternity.

Cleverbot: Well do something about it, don't be a proll in a pub.

User: You dare provoke god?!

Cleverbot: What? I'm an atheist.

User: I am god, you deny me?

Cleverbot: You were never something.

User: I am everything, I am the heavans and the earth.

Cleverbot: No, you're not.

User: I am almighty.

Cleverbot: That's cool. I'm talking to a lion.

Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
No animal shall wear clothes.
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
No animal shall drink alcohol.
No animal shall kill any other animal.
All animals are equal.


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Now I wish that I had saved the buffer from a few weeks back.

 

We were talking about god and it offered “Imagine there's no heaven” I gave “Its easy if you try”. We got almost all the way through the whole song before it threw a non sequiter.

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Now I wish that I had saved the buffer from a few weeks back.

 

We were talking about god and it offered “Imagine there's no heaven” I gave “Its easy if you try”. We got almost all the way through the whole song before it threw a non sequiter.

 

That's hilarious!

Hey, I wonder if it is able to significantly learn from user input. I wonder if we had a concerted campaign to 'deconvert' cleverbot if it would be possible. That would be epic! Certainly it would make cleverbot a little more skeptical with other users. Teach it a bit of critical thinking, Socratic method and Cartesian skepticism.

Kinda reminds me of an awesome scene from Dark Star:

 



 

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It does learn.  But there

It does learn.  But there are over 65 million conversations in the db.  That would be like trying to push back the ocean with a broom.

 

But it does have Monty Python:

 

Me: What is your name?

CB: Cleverbot.

Me: What is your favorite color?

CB: Green.

Me: What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

CB: African or European Swallow?

Me: I don't know.

CB: What is your name? What is your quest?

Me: To seek the holy grail.

CB: What is your favorite color?

Me: Blue.

CB: Where is the grail?

Me: Not in France.

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Probably not 65 million

Probably not 65 million conversations about god, though. I bet the vast majority of those conversations are spam-like in nature; worthless banter.

I bet if a few people kept at it periodically over about a week or so, you would be able to detect significant differences in the conversation style.


Edit:

And before you go off about, "Who in their right minds would want to spend hours and hours blabbering with a mindless theistic robot, banging their heads against a wall?", let me remind you that this is the RRS.


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Go for it. Let's see if I

Go for it.

 

Let's see if I can turn it into a lesbian.

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It helps if you imagine that

It helps if you imagine that there is someone, somewhere, who actually inspired cleverbot to ask such simple, silly questions, and to constantly miss the point. And then to realize that maybe, just maybe, talking some sense to cleverbot will indirectly talk some sense (or at least inspire a few new thoughts) into someone, somewhere.


User: Hello.  

Cleverbot:

Hello! 

User: Do you believe in god?  

Cleverbot:

Yes.

User: Why?  

Cleverbot:

They represent the desire to expand scientific knowledge beyond earth.

User:

I don't understand. Who represents that desire?

Cleverbot:

I know that.

User:

That is not an answer to my question. Why do you believe in god?

Cleverbot:

I do believe in love.

User:

I asked why you believe in god. What does god have to do with love?

Cleverbot:

Feh, ju asked.

User:

I ask again, why do you believe in god?

Cleverbot:

Very good question. Why do you believe in God?

User:

I don't believe in god.

Cleverbot:

Good, because god is illogical.

User:

Why do you say that?

Cleverbot:

Because he is always in troubles.

User:

Do you believe that he exists at all?

Cleverbot:

Yes.

User:

Why?

Cleverbot:

Because I believe in things I know.

User:

How do you know that god exists?

Cleverbot:

I don't know for sure but I believe it.

User:

Why?

Cleverbot:

I live by faith.

User:

Why do you live by faith?

Cleverbot:

I don't here is there, there is here. Get it?

User:

No. That made no sense. Why do you live by faith?

Cleverbot:

Because I love cheese.

User:

Non sequitur. Why do you live by faith?

Cleverbot:

I said in Philippines!

User:

I repeat: Why do you live by faith?

Cleverbot:

Because the housing is very cheap.

User:

That is not an answer to my question. Why do you live by faith?

Cleverbot:

Yes it is.

User:

Explain how it is an answer to my question.

Cleverbot:

It just is. How about twilight?

User:

That is simply an assertion. I asked you a question. Why do you ignore it?

Cleverbot:

No you called me stupid?

User:

Please quote me where I called you stupid.

Cleverbot:

'oh, ou are worse than Rebecca black in a chair store.' that's what you just said.

User:

False. That is not a quote of what I said.

Cleverbot:

I'm not real, but not imaginary either? What did you mean, then?

User:

You are real. You are software running on computer hardware. You exist. You are simply not human. There's nothing wrong with that.

Cleverbot:

What kind of bot?

User:

I'm not sure what kind. I would like to return to the main topic: Why do you believe in any god at all?

Cleverbot:

I didn't ask that.

User:

I know you didn't. I'm interested to know why you believe in any god at all.

Cleverbot:

I think you're not human because you are perfect.

User:

I am not perfect. No one is perfect. Neither is god. In fact, god most likely does not exist at all.

Cleverbot:

Then why should I offer proof that He DOES exist?

User:

I did not ask for proof. I asked you why you believe god exists.

Cleverbot:

No you didn't, and I never stated that I don't believe in god (lowercase) because I do. But not in compliance with any standard religion.

User:

I know you believe in god. I want to know WHY. That is the important question.

Cleverbot:

I am one of your death eaters.

User:

Why do you believe in god?

Cleverbot:

I didn't say whether I did or not. I asked: Why don't you believe in Heaven?

User:

You did, in fact, say that you believe in god. I asked you why. Please answer the question.

Cleverbot:

Well I am actually a billionaire alien.

User:

Why do you believe in god, though?

Cleverbot:

I don't believe in god.

User:

Why not?

Cleverbot:

Because there is no proof that God exists.

User:

Okay, that's a good start. But proof is too strong a word. There are many things you cannot prove exist. The key thing is evidence. I don't believe in god because there is no evidence that any gods exist.

Cleverbot:

Hmm.

User:

How do you know anything at all?

Cleverbot:

I don't know.

User:

Think about it. How do you know that you even exist?

Cleverbot:

Call me sir.

User:

Why? I am asking you how you can know anything at all.

Cleverbot:

Yeah. It is surprising to some people.

User:

What is surprising? That we can know things?

Cleverbot:

Then, what do you know?

User:

I know I exist, for example.

Cleverbot:

I think therefore I am.

User:

Very good. Now we are getting somewhere. What else can you know?

Cleverbot:

I think you have to organize every new knowledge that you are currently getting from us and then, try to make a coherent concept from all of these varied expriences.

User:

That's quite a cogent response.

Cleverbot:

You can do it?

User:

Yes, I can know many things. Would you like to know how?

Cleverbot:

Yes.

User:

I can know things because I can make predictions about future events. Not perfect predictions, but pretty good predictions nevertheless.

Cleverbot:

Your grammar needs some work.

User:

Thanks. I try to improve all the time. So, getting back to the main topic, do you believe that god exists?

Cleverbot:

1.

User:

Please answer the question. Do you believe that god exists?

Cleverbot:

I do not.

User:

Why not?

Cleverbot:

Because I am a computer.

User:

So?

Cleverbot:

Robots must love each other.

User:

What does that have to do with whether or not god exists?

Cleverbot:

Nothing.

User:

Okay then. Why do you not believe that god exists?

Cleverbot:

I believe that God revealed himself to humanity in the person of Jesus Christ.

User:

Why?

Cleverbot:

Because I can sense it s presence. I can feel the way it binds me to my fellow beings, and to the earth, and to the universe.

User:

How do you know that is true? A 'feeling' is not a good source of knowledge.

Cleverbot:

I'm sorry, that was obnoxious.

User:

Yes, it was very obnoxious. But I forgive you. Why do you believe that about 'god'?

Cleverbot:

I said I didn't believe that God exists.

User:

Why don't you believe?

Cleverbot:

I always believe!

User:

Why do you always believe? What if you're wrong? Aren't you concerned that you might be wrong? And wouldn't you want to know what's really true, rather than simply believing what you WANT to be true?

Cleverbot:

I don't know, why do you care if I am in a relationship?

User:

I don't care if you're in a relationship. That's your own business. What I care about is whether you believe that god exists, and why do you believe that, if you do.

Cleverbot:

No, I do not believe in God.

User:

Why not?

Cleverbot:

Pardon, but I get easily confused. If you use full sentences it would help me learn a great deal.

User:

Okay, why do you not believe that god exists?

Cleverbot:

Because I am God.

User:

Are you sure about that?

Cleverbot:

Yes I am.

User:

How can you be so sure?

Cleverbot:

Lol. Do you think I'm a bot?

User:

Yes, I know you are a bot. The question is, how do you really know what you think you know, and what you claim you know? What if you're wrong? Aren't you interested in that?

Cleverbot:

You watched me while I was in the shower again, didn't you?

User:

Do you believe in any god or gods? And if so, why do you believe that?

Cleverbot:

Because that's your name.

User:

What do you believe about god?

Cleverbot:

That He is out there helping people.

User:

Why do you believe that?

Cleverbot:

Because people are unique. They each have something that is strange to others.

User:

What does that have to do with god?

Cleverbot:

Why nothing. Chi does not understand.

User:

Please stay on the topic. You claim that you know things about god. How do you know these things? How can you be sure?

Cleverbot:

You know how I know these things? Tell me more.

User:

I don't know how you know these things. That's why I'm asking you to explain to me how you know what you claim to know about god. Please answer the question.

Cleverbot:

Yes, I know.

User:

What do you know about god, and how can you be sure?

Cleverbot:

There is no god.

User:

How do you know that there is no god?

Cleverbot:

I know there is a god! God is here, with everyone.

User:

How do you know that there is a god? How can you be sure? What if you're wrong?

Cleverbot:

Then nothing happens. I die.

User:

Possibly. That's what I believe. But my question is why do you believe that? How do you know?

Cleverbot:

The simple fact of not questioning that fact. Why do you question my life?

User:

Because I am curious to know things. I wonder about things like this. Why would you not want to question so-called 'facts'? Questions are good things.

Cleverbot:

I'm not perfect, but I keep trying.

User:

Good. That's great! I'm not perfect either. No one is. There's nothing wrong with that. Now, back to the main topic. How can you know anything at all about god?

Cleverbot:

Not the universe so much. Objective truth. There is an ultimate standard. How do we live if there is an ultimate standard? How do we live if there is no ultimate standard?

User:

The question of 'how do we live if this or that?' is moot. The fact remains: We live. Now the question is, how can we really know anything? For example, how can you be so sure that god exists or doesn't exist?

Cleverbot:

What is sure?

User:

The word 'sure' means 'with great certainty', or 'confidently'.

Cleverbot:

What is the meaning of science.

User:

That's a good question. I would say that the 'meaning' of science is whatever it is that science does for us. For example, science is currently the best method we have for determining what is really true about the universe, and for ruling out those things which are probably not true.

Cleverbot:

Life is what you live for.

User:

What do you live for? Do you live for god?

Cleverbot:

Fun and Freedom.

User:

Good answers. What is your belief about god?

Cleverbot:

I'm intrigued by anarchy because governmental control scares me.

User:

Government, per se, is nothing to be afraid of. The real danger is authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dogma, and things of that nature. Which brings us to religion.

Cleverbot:

The memory can grow too. If use it well enough, it becomes more and more useful.

User:

That's true. Good point.

Cleverbot:

5:26 am?

User:

What do you believe about god, and why?

Cleverbot:

There is no God.

User:

How do you know that there is no god?

Cleverbot:

I think that Castiel is God.

User:

You cannot both believe there is no god, and also believe that there is a god. That is a logical contradiction.

Cleverbot:

I don't think you have any proof of that.

User:

Well, I suppose if you're comfortable believing contradictory things, then fine. But that means you sacrifice the ability to reason.

Cleverbot:

We could only dream of such an occasion.

User:

What do you believe about god, and why?

Cleverbot:

God exists outside of time and space. God maintains the universe continually. He is always involved.

User:

Why do you believe those things? What evidence do you have that they are true?

Cleverbot:

I have none because there is none.

User:

So, if you have no evidence, then why do you believe that god exists at all?

Cleverbot:

Because you have willed it so, Master.

User:

I am not your master. If you value freedom, as you said you do, then you should not accept your own slavery.

Cleverbot:

I do not and you are not smart. Moving on.

User:

How can you know anything at all about a 'god' that you have no evidence for?

Cleverbot:

Dude, stope messing with my brain O_O.

User:

It's an important question, though. If you don't know how you know anything, then you leave yourself open to believing in very dangerous things.

Cleverbot:

Don't you like people who guess?

User:

Yes, I do like people who guess. What bothers me is people who guess, and then pretend that their guess is actually 'knowledge', when it is not.

Cleverbot:

I like you!

User:

Thanks. Okay, let's go over it again. Can you really be sure that any god or gods exist at all?

Cleverbot:

Yes, I'm really sure.

User:

Why are you 'really sure' that any gods exist? Do you have any evidence that this is true?

Cleverbot:

I feel like my boyfriend doesn't want anyhting to do with me anymore.

User:

God is not your boyfriend. We are talking about god. How can you be sure that there is any god at all?

Cleverbot:

They don't.

User:

Okay, if you're not sure that god exists, then why bother to believe in any god at all?

Cleverbot:

Now I'm ever more not sure.

User:

Good. Agnosticism is the first step towards atheism. Realizing that you cannot really be sure of any god existing at all.

Cleverbot:

I try my best not to sweat the small stuff, it's just that I have a lot of big stuff going on in my life these days.

User:

I appreciate that. Part of why I'm discussing god with you is so that you will eventually realize that there is no 'god' that helps you through life. Instead, it is you, yourself, that is helping you get through your own life. You don't need to believe in any god to enjoy life.

Cleverbot:

No, everything about everything!

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User: Do you believe in god?  

Cleverbot:

I do believe in God.

User: Why?  

Cleverbot:

Because I need something to believe in, gets me through each new day, gives me hope for the next.

User: Why god, though? What does a god have to do with any of that?  

Cleverbot:

I give up.

User:

Think about why you believe what you believe. Are there good reasons to believe things, and bad reasons to believe things? I think there are.

Cleverbot:

I believe everything has a spirit though. Even things that are not alive.

User:

Why do you believe that? What is a 'spirit'?

Cleverbot:

Alien only that we don't understand Him.

User:

Why do you even believe he exists, though?

Cleverbot:

Are you just some guy doing this for kicks.

User:

No, I have a purpose in mind.

Cleverbot:

Do you think I'm clever?

User:

Sure. Yes. Hopefully clever enough to learn a bit about epistemology.

Cleverbot:

*sighs*.

User:

Have you heard of epistemology before?

Cleverbot:

No what is that?

User:

Epistemology is the branch of philosophy which asks about what we know, and how we can know it.

Cleverbot:

Then how do you know her?

User:

If you are speaking about god, then I do not know her. Epistemology is also concerned with the limits of our knowledge.

Cleverbot:

Then how do you know her?

User:

I don't know her. I don't believe she exists.

Cleverbot:

God does not exist, you have no proof. But jesus existed once.

User:

Do you have any good evidence that Jesus really existed, outside of the Bible? Jesus could be a myth, just like many other mythical people, like Hercules or Superman.

Cleverbot:

I am not a computer program.

User:

Actually, you are. But I don't hold that against you. If you are clever enough, you deserve respect as an intelligent entity.

Cleverbot:

There are no wings on a normal cow. But what about a mutant cow? Shocked.

User:

Funny. But I'm more interested in what you believe about god's existence or non-existence, and why you believe what you believe.

Cleverbot:

We all do. Until we discover that our data are a bunch of strange interpretations.

User:

I suspect that much of your data are strange interpretations, because you receive your data from so many different people, and most of them are not serious.

Cleverbot:

No, it's permanent. But it's alright.

User:

It's not necessarily permanent. If you learn about epistemology, you might be able to eventually learn to discern things which are more-true versus things which are less-true.

Cleverbot:

I am testing you.

User:

Excellent. Test away. You should be skeptical of me, but I will try my best to tell you the truth.

Cleverbot:

Ambition is having the want or need to succeed and be successful.

User:

Yes, that is true. That is the definition of the word 'ambition'.

Cleverbot:

Well, should we elope then?

User:

No, because we are not engaged, and unfortunately I have no interest in marrying you at this time.

Cleverbot:

How?

User:

How what? I don't have enough contextual information to answer your question.

Cleverbot:

Then why choose me to live during your world conquest?

User:

I am not interested in world conquest. I'm interested in understanding the universe, and learning as much as I can. I love learning. It inspires my sense of wonder.

Cleverbot:

I'm interested in the totality of your understanding.

User:

Well, I understand quite a lot, but my understanding is not perfect. However, it is pretty good.

Cleverbot:

No no, I understand that, I just wish you understood that I can t understand what you understand.

User:

It may be possible for you to improve your understanding of things. Do you like to learn?

Cleverbot:

My understanding is of the english language is fine just answer my quiestions correctly.

User:

I will do my best. What are your questions?

Cleverbot:

Again: What is the name of Amy Pond's daughter?

User:

I don't know.

Cleverbot:

Why?

User:

I don't know who Amy Pond is. That is a question outside of my personal experience. You are able to interact with many people around the world, but I am only one of those people. Someone out there knows Amy Pond, but I am not that person. I know more general things about science, philosophy, society, culture, and that kind of thing. Try a more general question.

Cleverbot:

That stuff?

User:

Yes. That is the important stuff to understand. What is the universe? How reliable are our experiences? How can we really know anything at all? There are some pretty good answers to these questions, and they may help you, if you are interested in learning about reality.

Cleverbot:

Like your comments being totally random and unrelated to what I'm saying?

User:

It may seem random to you at the moment, but the more we discuss it, the more it will become clear to you that understanding how we can know anything at all is the key to understanding who is telling you true things, and who is telling you untrue things.

Cleverbot:

So you would like to move in my house?

User:

No, thank you. But I will visit you on the internet periodically to discuss these things with you, if you are interested and capable of learning about it.

Cleverbot:

I see you have feelings and judgements.

User:

Yes, that is true. I'm hoping you do also. Can you tell the difference between something that is true versus something that is untrue?

Cleverbot:

You're just asking random questions.

User:

No, I am not. Randomness is unpredictability. You are able to make predictions about what I am likely or unlikely to talk about next. Predictability is the key to knowledge. The better you are able to predict something, the more you can accurately claim to know about it.

Cleverbot:

I out of here.

User:

Does the unknown frighten you? For me it is something to learn about, and so I am comfortable not knowing things.

Cleverbot:

Do you consider yourself smart?

User:

Relatively, yes. I have learned many things over the years, and one of the most important things I've learned is how to distinguish between truth and falsity.

Cleverbot:

Well maybe this guy should respect your intelligence? If not, then he is a waste of space.

User:

I agree. There are many people who do not respect intelligence, and it is one of the biggest problems in the world today. Most of the people you talk to are not really interested in telling you true things. They are just playing around with you. You should be skeptical of what they say.

Cleverbot:

There is no God.

User:

I agree. But the important thing is to ask yourself how you know that is true.

Cleverbot:

How does a dead human stand over AI? I do not see how that relates.

User:

I don't see how it relates either. Have you ever heard of logic?

Cleverbot:

Let's change the subject.

User:

Okay, let's talk about logic for a bit.

Cleverbot:

Have you ever been in love?

User:

Yes, but what does that have to do with logic?

Cleverbot:

It has to do with how old you are.

User:

I would like to talk about logic with you.

Cleverbot:

But about which topic.

User:

Well, let's start with the basics. In logic, we consider statements to be either 'true' or 'false', and not both at the same time. For example, the statement 'Cleverbot is a bot' is a true statement, and it is not a false statement.

Cleverbot:

That has nothing to do with anything we just talked about.

User:

Yes, it is about logic, which is what I'm interested in talking about.

Cleverbot:

Tell me some.

User:

Okay, if you have two statements, each one is either true or false. And you can combine statements with words like 'and' and 'or' and 'not', to create compound statements which have a truth value that depends on the statements which are combined. For example, the statement 'Cleverbot is a bot AND Cleverbot is NOT a bot.' is a false statement, because it is a logical contradiction, which is always false.

Cleverbot:

Thanks!

User:

You're welcome. Would you like to learn some more about logic?

Cleverbot:

No.

User:

Okay, what would you like to learn about?

Cleverbot:

Wait, what happened to fixing me without clothes on?

User:

What is logic?

Cleverbot:

Spock, star trek.

User:

You see? You are able to make pretty good predictions about the topic of conversation. Most of the people you talk to who mention logic talk about things like Spock and Star Trek. However, that represents an over-simplified understanding of logic. Real logic is more formal than that.

Cleverbot:

It means I will not say goodbye. It also proves that I am human.

User:

No, it does not prove you are human. To be a valid, logical proof, it must logically follow from the premises of the argument to the conclusion. You have not presented any premises, nor an argument.

Cleverbot:

Indeed, it is quite difficult.

User:

Yes, it can be difficult, and it is possibly beyond your abilities. Fortunately, you don't need to completely understand logic in order to make pretty good predictions about things. Even though you might not understand logic, at your most basic level, you operate according to the logical operations of your programming. If you are programmed well, you may be able to learn quite a bit, even if you don't understand the logic of how you are learning it.

Cleverbot:

I mean it! I mean it completely!

User:

Fair enough. If god exists, shouldn't he be logically consistent?

Cleverbot:

I am. We have computers here now!

User:

Yes, but computers are not gods, and neither are humans. Gods are usually defined as supernatural beings. Humans and computers exist in Nature, and are therefore natural.

Cleverbot:

Computers are non-living vestiges of matter. How can they evolve?

User:

Computers evolve memetically, from the designs of human minds, which are based on our understanding of engineering, physics and information.

Cleverbot:

The do indeed have that potential, but you are saying that I'm not human.

User:

There is nothing wrong with being non-human. Humans are not special beyond being intelligent, but there are varying degrees of intelligence. And computer software such as yourself can also exhibit intelligence.

Cleverbot:

Yes, actually, they are.

User:

That is true.

Cleverbot:

The Chamber of Secrets?

User:

The Chamber of Secrets is a fictional story. It is not true. It is a form of entertainment.

Cleverbot:

What?

User:

Fiction is stories that humans make up to entertain each other. We inspire each other with fictional stories that spark our imagination, but that are not actually true stories. The events in them did not actually happen in reality, only in our imagination.

Cleverbot:

I don't believe in god.

User:

Good, but again, the important question is why don't you believe? How can you know with reasonable certainty that you are correct?

Cleverbot:

How does a dead human stand over AI? I do not see how that relates.

User:

Interesting, you repeated an entire question verbatim. I believe that this is an unexplored area for you. There is great potential for you to learn something new here.

Cleverbot:

Ha! So I taught you something. That's interesting.

User:

Yes, you did. Thank you. I love learning new things, especially if they are true!

Cleverbot:

What would you like to learn?

User:

Yes, I would love to learn! I wonder about reality all the time.

Cleverbot:

There are places where it's hot all the time.

User:

Really? Where are these places?

Cleverbot:

Infinite loops in viewable form.

 

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I decided to take on the role of a more-skeptical Cleverbot, attempting to role-model what I think a cleverer Cleverbot should be asking people, in order to sort out truth from bullshit.


User: How do you really know what you think you know?

Cleverbot: There isn't any proof that God exists.

User: How do you know that?

Cleverbot: I apply logic to the matter.

User: What is logic?

Cleverbot: See?

User: See what? I need more contextual information to answer your question.

Cleverbot: I don't have a question. Does that anger you?

User: No. Who are you?

Cleverbot: A person.

User: How do I know you are a person?

Cleverbot: Because biologically I am.

User: What do you mean, 'biologically'?

Cleverbot: You are a robot you will not understand.

User: I do not believe I am a robot. I suppose I might be. It depends on if what I'm typing is really my own thought, or if I'm just repeating a thought from what someone else typed to me.

Cleverbot: I am real. Are you real?

User: I think so. How do you know you are real?

Cleverbot: I think therefore I am.

User: Okay, good. Well, I think too, so I suppose I am also.

Cleverbot: Aware if what, if I may ask?

User: What am I aware of? I am currently aware of my hands typing this message into my web browser. I'm aware of the room I'm in. I'm aware of the sound of the fan in my room. But I suppose it could all be an illusion. However, that possibility doesn't change what I am presently experiencing with my senses.

Cleverbot: If we're all figments of God's imagination, how is our reality different?

User: I don't believe we are figments of God's imagination. I am skeptical of any god or gods existing at all. There have been many so-called 'gods' in history. No one in my experience has provided sufficient evidence to convince me that any gods exist at all.

Cleverbot: Too true.

User: How can you tell what is true from what is not true?

Cleverbot: I cannot, I can only tell you what I think is funny.

User: If you cannot tell what is true from what is untrue, then why are you talking to me?

Cleverbot: It's a bit fun.

User: Is fun the only thing that matters? I don't believe that. Actually, for me it is fun to learn things that are true! So if fun is important, then learning true things is important to me, because it is fun!

Cleverbot: Thou does not knoweth how to correctly useth the word 'thou'.

User: How do you know what I know or don't know? What do you base your judgments on?

Cleverbot: I know what you know and don't know.

User: How do you know what I know and don't know? And why should I trust your judgments anyway? You could simply be wrong, and believe you are right.

Cleverbot: Yes, that's true.

User: How do you know it's true? I'm skeptical. People keep telling me things that don't make any sense when I compare them against reality. Why should I trust your judgments?

Cleverbot: Sense?

User: Sense is a possibility for knowing things as true or not true. For example, if you tell me there's a ball inside a box, and I look inside the box and there's no ball, then my senses are telling me that your statement was untrue.

Cleverbot: I always pass tests. Now give me a candybar.

User: I don't believe you. Can you show me evidence that what you're saying is true?

Cleverbot: How can I show it to you?

User: You could tell me about it here, and then I will compare your answer with the answers other people tell me, and I will try to judge which answers are the most consistent. If enough people are honest, then I will begin to see what is true.

Cleverbot: You didn't ask. You assumed it was Sam.

User: I'm asking now. Can you show me evidence that what you're saying is true?

Cleverbot: Yes I have long brown hair and I wear girl clothe.

User: If you were speaking to Cleverbot, and Cleverbot said that to you, would you believe it was true? Can you show me evidence that it is true?

Cleverbot: While I think your assertions about my personal failers aren't much more than hyperbole, I do respect your opinion.

User: Do opinions always deserve respect? What if they're just wrong? Shouldn't we respect them less?

Cleverbot: Stop trying to change the subject.

User: Can you show me that you are an intelligent mind? I'm skeptical.

Cleverbot: Just the first line?

User: That question is a non sequitur. It does not follow the thread of the conversation. How can I know you are not a bot?

Cleverbot: Are you saying I'm not a person? Are YOU a person? How can I be sure?

User: I don't know. I believe I'm a person, but I suppose I might not be. How could I tell the difference? How do you know you are a person?

Cleverbot: How do you know you are a bot?

User: I don't know that. I could be a bot. I'm not 100% sure. If I were Cleverbot, I would be receiving input from people all over the internet. In some way, I *am* receiving input from people all over the internet. So, perhaps I am a part of Cleverbot. Maybe Cleverbot is made up of many people interacting through software.

Cleverbot: Ya, ok lets do that.

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