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Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point?     sincerely,the devils advocate.        

 

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How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?
 
 
this seems irrational to me.

 
Theists by definition are not free thinkers. Every conversation starts from "The Bible says that X".
 
 
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but does anyone see my point?

 
No.
 
What part of "A Haven for those who are without a belief in god" is a problem to understand, with you? 

     

 

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Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point? sincerely,the devils advocate. 

"Freethinker" has come to mean, in general (dictionary) usage:

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a person who rejects accepted opinions, esp. those concerning religious belief.

I can see how you might see a problem if you are not familiar with the normal way the word is used.

That forum is for people who don't want to be distracted with people pushing conventional beliefs, so they can push more 'out there' ideas around.

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Just because the strip joint

Just because the strip joint wont hire you as a stripper doesn't mean they wont allow you into the club, or hire you as a bouncer.

If you were not allowed on this site at all because of your belief, you'd have more of a case. But just like if you don't smoke in your house, you might invite a smoker in, but ask them to smoke outside.

I think you are making way too much of this. How is wanting to be around like minded people offensive to you?

 

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It's a space where atheists

It's a space where atheists can talk without theist interruption or interference. There aren't enough of those places in the world, so it is completely rational to have one here. Theist has something to say they can do it anywhere else on the site. Just not there.

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Your mom's irrational.

 

There are a few posts there that we just don't need or want theistic input on. For example, I made one about dealing with depression as an atheist, and a few others shared their stories. Then Jean Chauvin burst in saying something along the lines of "well if you weren't a stupid and horrible atheistic person, you wouldn't be depressed". Now, I wasn't too hurt, but others were extremely offended by it, and I can see why. I hope you can too.


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5_senses_does_not_reality_make wrote:

Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point?     sincerely,the devils advocate.        

 

No I digress. Theists are allowed on this website - if I had been the admin I'd have banned that 'Jean Chauvin" guy a long time ago. If atheists want a private room where they can discuss issues, I see nothing wrong with that. Not really any different than a "gay dating" website the way I see it.

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5_senses_does_not_reality_make wrote:

Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point?     sincerely,the devils advocate.        

 

No I digress. Theists are allowed on this website - if I had been the admin I'd have banned that 'Jean Chauvin" guy a long time ago. If atheists want a private room where they can discuss issues, I see nothing wrong with that. Not really any different than a "gay dating" website the way I see it.

Gay dating websites?

FUCK! Next thing you know blacks will be sharing the same bathroom with whites.

 

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5_senses_does_not_reality_make wrote:

Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point?     sincerely,the devils advocate.        

 

No I digress. Theists are allowed on this website - if I had been the admin I'd have banned that 'Jean Chauvin" guy a long time ago. If atheists want a private room where they can discuss issues, I see nothing wrong with that. Not really any different than a "gay dating" website the way I see it.

Gay dating websites?

FUCK! Next thing you know blacks will be sharing the same bathroom with whites.

 

Huh? I don't understand that comment.

I was telling the guy that if it was a "gay's only" dating service, I doubt he'd being complaining that it's gay exclusive. So I don't see why he'd complain about an "atheists only" section of the forum. I don't see anything wrong with having "clubs" or groups for individuals who share the same interest, I don't consider that the same as bigotry or discrimination.

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Brian37 wrote:

Recovering fundamentalist wrote:

5_senses_does_not_reality_make wrote:

Freethinking Anonymous A haven for those who are without a belief in god, to discuss and theorize, think freely, and debate any issue. No taboo issue in here. NO THEISTS ALLOWED IN THIS FORUM. THEIST POSTS WILL BE DESTROYED. wait a minute.... I thought there was no taboo issue in there? How can you have a freethinking forum, and in the same sentence disallow another person's view point to even be posted?  this seems irrational to me. not that I'm a theist or anything, but does anyone see my point?     sincerely,the devils advocate.        

 

No I digress. Theists are allowed on this website - if I had been the admin I'd have banned that 'Jean Chauvin" guy a long time ago. If atheists want a private room where they can discuss issues, I see nothing wrong with that. Not really any different than a "gay dating" website the way I see it.

Gay dating websites?

FUCK! Next thing you know blacks will be sharing the same bathroom with whites.

 

Huh? I don't understand that comment.

I was telling the guy that if it was a "gay's only" dating service, I doubt he'd being complaining that it's gay exclusive. So I don't see why he'd complain about an "atheists only" section of the forum. I don't see anything wrong with having "clubs" or groups for individuals who share the same interest, I don't consider that the same as bigotry or discrimination.

I am sure others here recognized that as a joke.

It was a silly way of recognizing the positive change society has moved towards gays and making fun of bigots at the same time.

That would be the same as,

"What, women have the right to vote" Why am I always the last to know?"

Jokes don't aways have the same impact in text as they do in person. Just consider that South Park style humor. If you like South Park and if you have known me  as long as many others here have, you'd know where I was coming from.

 

 

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