Christianity as a culture is not primarily a belief but a belief's generator
Below is a posting from my Facebook. The last few responses show the nature of Christianity. It is not something that can necessarily be reasoned or confronted rationally. It appears to be a true enculturalization of the individual in which culture is not the glasses whereby to understand the world and can be easily replaced. Culture appears to be the eyes themselves which can not be removed. To get a theist to a point of rational and critical thinking about his/her belief system requires a process of slowly creating doubt as to the world view as a whole, showing skepticism to be a more useful tool than belief and demonstrating group acceptance in a secular system. There is an excellent article by David Eller in Loftus's the Christian Delusion. The article, the Cultures of Christianities, points out that there are multiple types of Christianities all functioning as particular cultures. He shows how missionaries that are successful enter a culture and slowly erode its meaning as they replace it with a Christian Culture. The book, the Christian Delusion has many good articles worth reading if you can find it. The editor, John W. Loftus, is a friend of a friend and was a part of my denomination before we became atheists. How do we really respond to something like below? Tommy Baker
Sandycane wrote:It is a fact that we all hold mistaken beliefs. True or false is often based on parameters held within beliefs that may never be real. Beliefs are not proven facts; they are perceptions and your way of thinking. From different perspectives my truths can be seen in different lights.
As a theist, how do you prove god?
Proof for my way of thinking is easy - Man does not need religion we need a God. Biologically we are desighned for it. Evolution proves it and social struture needs it. Most imprtant women find us more atrative.
While others say that religion causes wars and conflicts. It has regulated our conduct and behavior in society and provides a set of morals and value-system for human existence. Scientists have established that some circuits in the temporal lobe are involved in religious experience. This doesnt prove God only that our physial brain is desighned for it. Some Biologist believe that much if not all religious behavior could have risen from evolution by natural selection. I do not argue against evolution or natural selection so for us to evolve the need we must have a need. Sine the evolutionary need has been found everywhere… who am I to argue against sciene Natural seletion = Women find us more atrative.
Please explain: 'Women find us more attractive' Women find who more attractive?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
TGBaker wrote:Wow, I actually understood that. I like it.
Here is a logical method. Most times I use Bible studies. I have a degree in biblical literature, theology or what have you. I had four years of Greek and translated the New Testament with historical critical application toward a summary of the historical Jesus as opposed to the Christ of Faith.
1) There is a possible world of only well-being (p).
2) A capable limitless good being (x) knowing of this world (p) would actualize (necessarily) it over possible worlds with evil and suffering (q).
3)x necessarily would not allow q
4)p--> not q
5) It is possible that god is x
6)q --> not p
7) Our world=q therefore not p
9)not p--->not x
11)god= not x
Our world entails there is no capable limitless good being. If there is a god he is not that being.
Quote:Yes, and according to them all, they are each created in the image of said go - identities that go waaay beyond the Trinity.The problem with not using Cultures of Christianities is that there are 38,000 factions of variant Christianity in the USA. Their differences of views form different cultures such as Amish, Catholic, pentecostaletc.; all of whom dress and believe differently and antithetically against one another.
hey, tg, can you do a formula like that proving that humans are not created in the image of the christian god?