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i like this song

it good advice and so true

 

 

 


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So, do you see your face

So, do you see your face "down there" Pineapple?

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down where?

down where?


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You know.

You know.

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:it good

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it good advice and so true

  You must be joking.


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Here's my new and improved

Here's my new and improved lyrics for that snappy little jingle:

 'I can't sing and I can't dance...... but I look good with my hand in my pants ... ha ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha.

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sandy it true men think

sandy it true men think about it all the time

 

it good advice to just not give a fuck look at aig trying to get his dick wet

 

 

i think you need to loosen up

 

 

 


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Cpt_pineapple wrote:it good

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it good advice and so true

It's bullshit.

Any guy who's had a woman without hangups knows they totally love c**k, and can't get enough.

It takes 2 to tango.

 

Any woman not willing to participate in sex, is not worth wasting anytime over one who will.

 

'Nuff said...

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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redneF wrote:Cpt_pineapple

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:

it good advice and so true

It's bullshit.

Any guy who's had a woman without hangups knows they totally love c**k, and can't get enough.

It takes 2 to tango.

 

Any woman not willing to participate in sex, is not worth wasting anytime over one who will.

 

'Nuff said...

 

What a dick thing to say.


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Your opinion is as worthless

Your opinion is as worthless to me, as your mouth.


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redneF wrote:Your opinion is

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Your opinion is as worthless to me, as your mouth.

 

All I hear is "waaah waaah!"


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red you think girls only

red you think girls only good for taking dick?


i bet girls tell you to fuck off lol

 

 


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That's funny, because "What

That's funny, because "What a dick thing to say' sounds like someone is pissy that not everyone is going to see you as anything special for simply having a pussy...

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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Ctp_pineapple wrote: i think you need to loosen up

    Yep ! Loosen up an fantasize, you won't be disappointed, if you have a good imagination.   

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yea I'm willing to bet he's

yea I'm willing to bet he's single. Either that or his chick has really low self esteem.


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Cpt_pineapple wrote:red you

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red you think girls only good for taking dick?

Can you quote where I said anything like that?

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i bet girls tell you to fuck off lol
 

Not often.

Because it has no implication for me, and they know it.

I've never been without any number of women who would fuck me silly, at the drop of a hat. So, no woman has any power over me, with her words, or with her pussy.

Were you under the impression that only women can pick and choose?

Pffft...

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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yes, the doucheyness is

yes, the doucheyness is strong with this one.


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i bet red yanks his dick to

i bet red yanks his dick to shakira videos

 

 


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Ciarin wrote:yea I'm willing

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yea I'm willing to bet he's single.

It's your fantasy, you can make it anything you wish.

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Either that or his chick has really low self esteem.

Why?

Cause she's not militant, like you?

 

It might not occur to you, because you probably only get involved with men who appease you, and make you feel that you're somehow superior to them.

Some women can't respect any man that they can wrap around their finger, and actually look for the guy who can pick from the cream of the crop, and want to become the object of his desire.

The only experience women like you, have with guys like that, is them leaving with a more desirable woman...

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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LOL, he's desperately trying

LOL, he's desperately trying to show us how large his e-peen is.


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Ciarin wrote:yes, the

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yes, the doucheyness is strong with this one.

  Then perhaps you should use some of that powerful heathen magic and cast an anti-doucheyness spell on him.... 

 

  

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ProzacDeathWish wrote:Ciarin

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yes, the doucheyness is strong with this one.

  Then perhaps you should use some of that powerful heathen magic and cast an anti-doucheyness spell on him....    

 

 

Or I could pray to Jake.

 


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Ciarin wrote:  Then perhaps

Ciarin wrote:

  Then perhaps you should use some of that powerful heathen magic and cast an anti-doucheyness spell on him....    

 

 

Ciarin wrote:
   

Or I could pray to Jake.

 

 

    Yes, you could ..... and I predict the same likelihood of success in either case.    Right ?   Am I right ?

 

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Ciarin wrote:LOL, he's

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LOL, he's desperately trying to show us how large his e-peen is.

You're just part of a group of women, who like to project that you have some unique ability to bargain with your pussies.

When you obviously can't have any 'unique' ability, because women 'compete' for men.

So, all things being equal, you will always lose, by playing your pussy as though you have the license to 'pussydom'.

 

A smart guy knows that it's just a numbers game. If you meet enough of them, you'll always have plenty of willing women to choose from.

And I work and play in a 'target rich' environment.

My wife knows that if she left me tomorrow, I'd have any number of equal, or better women that would take me before she got down the street.

 

That's somethin' my 'mama' taught me.

 

Women like you, are simply not in the league of women, in the circles I travel in, lil' Miss Webdesigner gurl...

 

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I’m a webdesigner and a heathen. I’ve been doing webdesign for a few years, and I love doing it, it’s so much fun! I have a variety of websites that I’ve hosted and designed. Some are pagan/heathen, some are artistic, some are informative.

I also play World of Warcraft, mostly Horde(I play alliance only because my friends are allies…ugh). When I’m not playing WoW or working on websites, I spend my free time drawing, knitting, and reading

What, are you like 21, still living in your mother's basement, on welfare, playing WoW, being all pagan water memory 'mystical', and picking and choosing who you'll bestow with your pussydom?

Ya, you're a prize.

 

Give your head a shake, and grow the fuck up, chicky poo...

 

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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ProzacDeathWish wrote:Ciarin

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    Yes, you could ..... and I predict the same likelihood of success in either case.    Right ?   Am I right ?

 

 

Indeed.


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redneF wrote:What, are you

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What, are you like 21,

 

 

Aww thanks!


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red i bet you all talk you

red i bet you all talk you cant control me

 

if you come over i bet i can make you bark


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If he does actually have a

If he does actually have a wife, I suspect he purposefully keeps her self-esteem down so that she doesn't think she could do any better. I feel sorry for her....if she exists.


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Cpt_pineapple wrote:red i

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

red i bet you all talk you cant control me

I wouldn't respect any woman who can be controlled.

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if you come over i bet i can make you bark

I can do this thing with a feather and an ice cube that'll make you sing.

How's next Wednesday?

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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Ciarin wrote:If he does

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If he does actually have a wife, I suspect he purposefully keeps her self-esteem down so that she doesn't think she could do any better. I feel sorry for her....if she exists.

Oh STFU.

Seriously.

 

My wife is corporate. And I'm corporate. The neighbour's daughter who we pay $12 hr to babysit is just like you, and she just can't relate to such a loser, and shudders at the thought of our daughter growing up to be like you.

She just knows that we're equal. That sex is a 'zero sum game'. No winners, no losers. Neither of us is 'more equal' than the other because of what's between our legs.

You're just an idiot, who hasn't grown up yet.

 

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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LOL, he has no idea who he's

LOL, he has no idea who he's talking to.


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no ice and feather i want

no ice and feather i want rope and duct tape but i bet you cant even control a woman and are just all talk


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Quote: no ice and feather i

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 no ice and feather i want rope and duct tape but i bet you cant even control a woman and are just all talk

I like them when they let go, and lose control.

 

What's with the 'control' thing? Who'd want someone that they can control?

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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redneF wrote:... My wife is

redneF wrote:

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My wife is corporate. And I'm corporate. The neighbour's daughter who we pay $12 hr to babysit is just like you, and she just can't relate to such a loser, and shudders at the thought of our daughter growing up to be like you.

She just knows that we're equal. That sex is a 'zero sum game'. No winners, no losers. Neither of us is 'more equal' than the other because of what's between our legs.

You're just an idiot, who hasn't grown up yet.

 

You have a wife and a daughter?

That's almost as unbelievable as paying a babysitter $12/hour.

I think you're a precocious 16-year old sitting in your mothers basement with delusions of grandiose, fantasizing about how you think the world should be and not having a clue as to how it actually is.

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Delusions of grandiose!

Delusions of grandiose!

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:sandy it

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sandy it true men think about it all the time

it good advice to just not give a fuck look at aig trying to get his dick wet

i think you need to loosen up

I agree, most men are led through life by their dicks which are nothing more than heat-seeking devices.

What I disagree with is that song is  a good one.

Those girls prancing around, in skimpy outfits gyrating in sexual moves, complaining about how men are only interested in their *   *. If you don't shove it in their faces, they won't be looking at it. You can't expect them not to.

In the case of the PCD song, I would respond 'either put up or shut up or, put some clothes on and quit acting like a piece of meat on the men's buffet bar'.

You can't have it both ways: If you dress and act like a sex object, you're going to be treated like one.

Take redneF for example, he has made it clear that he is not interested in the prudish type because he knows they won't put out. Enough said.

 

And, btw, I am quite loose. As for how I dress and act, I wear what I like and what looks good on me and what makes me comfortable. I'm not out to impress anyone, to attract a mate or, in a competition. When I was younger, however, that was not the case.

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Sandycane wrote:I agree,

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I agree, most men are led through life by their dicks which are nothing more than heat-seeking devices.

 

 

  A strong sex drive does carry it's own problems.  It frequently exists as an unmet need and it can be a real hassle to deal with.   Now that I am middle-aged I am closer to death than to puberty and in some ways I prefer it ( hormonally speaking ) .   Life is frustrating enough for me as it is.

 

  I must add that despite my urgent "needs" as a younger male that I never inflicted my desires upon any female consort without her mutual consent.  I have always enjoyed bringing pleasure to my girl friends.   What turned me on was turning them on.  That was what excited me the most.   ( plus I had some really great "teachers" who were more than happy to speed up my sexual  learning curve and which, naturally benefited us both )

 

 

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Kapkao wrote:Delusions of

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Delusions of grandiose!

 

    That dude in the video need a very large dose of thorazine.

 

 

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ProzacDeathWish wrote:  A

ProzacDeathWish wrote:

  A strong sex drive does carry it's own problems.  It frequently exists as an unmet need and it can be a real hassle to deal with.   Now that I am middle-aged I am closer to death than to puberty and in some ways I prefer it ( hormonally speaking ) .   Life is frustrating enough for me as it is.

 Me too.

Shit. I get up at 5am and go to bed by 10 or 11 and every minute of my day is filled with by business, the house, the yard and my mother. I don't have time for the dating games. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have a companion but, he would have to be as hard a worker as I am and be physically fit. If I were looking, what would attract me is the strength of his back and the size of his biceps, not the size of his dick.

 

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  I must add that despite my urgent "needs" as a younger male that I never inflicted my desires upon any female consort without her mutual consent.  I have always enjoyed bringing pleasure to my girl friends.   What turned me on was turning them on.  That was what excited me the most.   ( plus I had some really great "teachers" who were more than happy to speed up my sexual  learning curve and which, naturally benefited us both )

I think that's what's missing from the younger generation. For them, it seems, it's all about 'me'.

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Sandycane wrote:When I was younger,however that was not the

 case       O, I'm sure ! just your one eye picture is a turn on !!! 

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Sandycane wrote:redneF

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redneF wrote:

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My wife is corporate. And I'm corporate. The neighbour's daughter who we pay $12 hr to babysit is just like you, and she just can't relate to such a loser, and shudders at the thought of our daughter growing up to be like you.

She just knows that we're equal. That sex is a 'zero sum game'. No winners, no losers. Neither of us is 'more equal' than the other because of what's between our legs.

You're just an idiot, who hasn't grown up yet.

 

You have a wife and a daughter?

That's almost as unbelievable as paying a babysitter $12/hour.

I think you're a precocious 16-year old sitting in your mothers basement with delusions of grandiose, fantasizing about how you think the world should be and not having a clue as to how it actually is.

 

I am not sure about red. 

1.  He said he owns a corporation - he is a "corporate" person.

  1a.  Okay, his persona is very like some of the "hard chargers" I have met elsewhere.

  1b.  But it could be easy enough to fake it - just read Dilbert for some ideas.

  1c.  But I could be all wrong.

2.  He says he has lots of women, is married with daughter.

  2a. Okay, that could be true.

  2b. I have to wonder - who would hang around someone who appears to be a user?

  2c. But I could be wrong.

 3. He says he has his pick of women.

  3a. Okay, if he is wearing big expensive looking jewelry and obviously expensive clothes and drives an expensive car and hangs in upscale bars ogling the bar cats - what does he expect to happen?

  3b. Definitely not nice of me, but you get what you go for - and if you are going for playmates impressed by your money and/or power that is what you will get.  There are a lot of people who like that setup.

  3c. I could be all wrong.

Red, what you are writing does not impress me as you being the sort of person I would hang with.  Or have sex with.  Which isn't your problem, since you say you have lots of people who do want to have sex with you.  I get that.  My experience is those men (and women) who brag about their prowess are usually lousy lovers.  You might be an exception.  But if I wanted pretty things and playing up to you might get me pretty things.......  I could be wrong.

Back to the OP.  Sandycane doesn't like them because she is not impressed with their singing and dancing skills.  I don't like them because they are like most porn videos (I have watched a few) - move here, grunt, flutter that, groan, position D, yell.  Fake.  Not a real emotion anywhere.  Real sex is spontaneous and messy - totally boring to watch with flabby wrinkled blemished hairy real people and without any positioning for the camera.

An actress friend once told me that acting was all about learning to fake sincerity.  Once you mastered that, the rest was easy.  The PCD haven't mastered faking sincerity.

 

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Ken G. wrote: case   

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 case       O, I'm sure ! just your one eye picture is a turn on !!! 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not... if not, thank you.

Yeah, I used to play that game... in high school the guys used to call me a DT. Hip-huggers and midriff tops, mini skirts, hot pants and platform shoes. God, I miss those days (or, I should say, I miss the way those clothes looked on me).

Don't get me wrong, I still look pretty hot but, I just don't want that kind of attention now so, I don't dress that way. I just don't have time or energy for that part of life anymore. Now, like I said, if I could find a man who worked as hard as I do, that would be different. I'd have a reason to dress the part again.

I have a nice collection of platform shoes...just no place to wear them except around the house.

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Sandycane wrote : ...if not,thank you.

      You are very welcome. Anyway, I know where you are comming from, when I was young I was a health freak, running 5 miles a day, boxing at PAL's and going down to Joe Frazier's Gym to learn and watch how dedicated Joe Frazier was to boxing  . But now, I'm a disabled (three pins in my left foot & ankle) and use a cane, plus I had a Liver transplant 10-15-2010 an I'm still recovering from that, as I get older (I'm 53) my best friend is Zoey my Lab and I'm a well known friend of pain who also keeps me company. I get this song running around my head a lot --    "Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen - wishful thinking !

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Ken G. wrote:

      You are very welcome. Anyway, I know where you are comming from, when I was young I was a health freak, running 5 miles a day, boxing at PAL's and going down to Joe Frazier's Gym to learn and watch how dedicated Joe Frazier was to boxing  . But now, I'm a disabled (three pins in my left foot & ankle) and use a cane, plus I had a Liver transplant 10-15-2010 an I'm still recovering from that, as I get older (I'm 53) my best friend is Zoey my Lab and I'm a well known friend of pain who also keeps me company. I get this song running around my head a lot --    "Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen - wishful thinking !

Yup, I can relate...I haven't done much of anything today but, I have this terrible kink in my neck/shoulder. Getting old sucks - especially if your mind stays young!

I used to work out in a gym when I lived in TX back in the 80's. I loved it!

I have one of those all-in-one machines now...the only exercize I get from it is moving it from room to room.

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 Yah, welcome to the club.

 

Yah, welcome to the club. I will be 48 on May 2nd. I used to be a mountain biker, now I am a dude with mountain biking injuries.

 

Now I have astronomy and musicianship as my “old man” hobbies.

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cj wrote:I am not sure about

cj wrote:

I am not sure about red. 

I can't be sure of me either, cj.

Tomorrow I might change my mind, about everything...

cj wrote:
1.  He said he owns a corporation - he is a "corporate" person.

  1a.  Okay, his persona is very like some of the "hard chargers" I have met elsewhere.

Actually, I'm not an overly aggressive person by nature. I just don't 'deviate'.

 

cj wrote:
1b.  But it could be easy enough to fake it - just read Dilbert for some ideas.

I completely agree. Anyone with good 'soft skills' knows how people put up a 'front'.

I manage teams, I structure teams, and I negotiate contracts, and I battle in court.

You get good at 'figuring' people out, and recognizing 'patterns' in behaviour.

cj wrote:
  1c.  But I could be all wrong.

It would be great (maybe/maybe not) if our predictions about people were accurate.

I know that I've made mistakes in accepting, and rejecting certain people, based on my notions. Tons of times.

I'm still learning everyday. However, it's when I'm dispassionate when my 'hit rate' is usually in the 98-99% range to accurately predict a person's 'fundamental' attributes.

cj wrote:
 2.  He says he has lots of women, is married with daughter.

Just to clarify. I never said I have 'lots of women'.

I have 'had' lots of women, over the years, and continue to 'have lots of women interested' in me.

But, I've never been in an intimate relationship with 2 different women.

1- I've never had that kind of free time.

2- I've seen the drama and chaos that ensues when other people do it, and nothing is worth that kind of grief, IMO.

3- If I'm unhappy, I leave.

cj wrote:
   2a. Okay, that could be true.

I'm not a philanderer, if that's what you were thinking.

cj wrote:
   2b. I have to wonder - who would hang around someone who appears to be a user?

How could I possibly be using someone, when I'm completely autonomous?

Using someone for sex?

That's an oxymoron.

Sex is a zero sum game (if you're doing it right). No winners, no losers.

People participate in having sex with each other.

The net gain/loss is 0.

cj wrote:
    2c. But I could be wrong.

Or right.

50/50

cj wrote:
  3. He says he has his pick of women.

And here is where it all goes pear shaped.

The bias.

Women can have their pick of sexual partners, and men can't?

How does that work in reality?

It doesn't.

Is the assumption that there are less women who would bed Tom Cruise than men who would bed Nicole Kidman?

I have not seen 1 study that would indicate anything of the sort.

The whole "Men are led by their dicks" misandry is hackneyed beyond absurdity.

Ever heard of 'Beatlemania'?

Ever heard of 'Elvis'?

What leads females into such absolute hysteria over the opposite sex? They don't have dicks.

I've never seen or heard of a male fainting because of an attraction to female.

So, why don't the 'dime store psychologists' ever explain what drive this is, if it is not a sexual drive?

cj wrote:
  3a. Okay, if he is wearing big expensive looking jewelry and obviously expensive clothes and drives an expensive car and hangs in upscale bars ogling the bar cats - what does he expect to happen?

Actually, there are distinctly different women who will respond to someone who is 'dressed up', compared to someone who is 'dressed down'. Although, there is some overlap.

And being really 'good looking' is more a detriment, than an asset, due to fear.

Same as for women.

 

cj wrote:
  3b. Definitely not nice of me, but you get what you go for - and if you are going for playmates impressed by your money and/or power that is what you will get.  There are a lot of people who like that setup.

I'm not into materialistic people. I'm into goal driven people. If the only goal is money, I'm not interested in having a personal relationship with them. But, having said that, I've learned that when there is a great disparity in incomes, more than likely, it will affect the relationship.

While I never used to discriminate against income. Now I do. But, not for material reasons. For 'practical' reasons.

cj wrote:
  3c. I could be all wrong.

At least you're honest, and critical of your thoughts.

cj wrote:
 Red, what you are writing does not impress me as you being the sort of person I would hang with.  Or have sex with. 

What does what I say have anything to do with how I would treat someone I was intimately involved with?

I don't see the double standard in my thinking.

Women know that a large number of men love pussy.

I know that a large number of women love cock.

What's the problem??

 

All other things being equal, would a woman not have a huge preference for men who don't have 'sexual hangups'?

Would you think that a woman was being a 'dick' if she did?

cj wrote:
  My experience is those men (and women) who brag about their prowess are usually lousy lovers. 

And my experience is that women who think that just liking sex makes them all equal between the sheets, are ignorant.

There are a few things that aid in being a good lover. And penis 'size' or 'stamina', are not even necessary. Otherwise women would marry dildos.

If a man's 'love making' begins and ends with his penis, then he's not a great lover. He's just a life support system for a dildo.

The brain is the most vital 'sex organ', and the skin is the largest sex organ.

Vaginal intercourse is but a small aspect of 'good sex'.

For the male, or the female.

cj wrote:
 You might be an exception. 

I've never had a woman leave me, nor have I ever had one that didn't want to me to continue having sex with her, after I left.

If I was there, it was because the sex was great. Otherwise, I'd still be looking for someone to commit to.

Why would I settle for less?

Would certain women settle for less?

In my exeprience? I know plenty that would, and do. I know women who pick security over sex, and use sex to procure security for themselves via a male.

That's not my problem.

I have always been autonomous.

Sex is sex.

And even though I could use 'my sex' as a 'bargaining chip', to 'gain' something, I never have.

I've never 'lost', anything, having sex.

It's just sex.

No winners, no losers.

 

 

I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."

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Cpt,Maybe you need to listen

Cpt,

Maybe you need to listen to some Annie.

I love her album 'Bare' this is my favorite somg from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itS3Q1saq7E

I love the way she sings 'But I feel wonderful' ...gives me goose bumps.

This is a good one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Pd-Vnn_rI

and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2R4d1CI0wY

I just love Annie.

 ... and this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPMoUUvd64o

this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4A96_Be6o&feature=related

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Answers in Gene...wrote: I used to be a mountain biker

    Yep, I had a Suzuki motorcycle and was hit by a old lady and she dragged me into a driveway, my handle bar went into her back bumper and she didn't know that she was dragging me, I thought that the Bike might blow up,because as she dragged me,my Bike was making alot of sparks. Anyway, I was in Traction - head & feet for awhile in the Hospital and since then I have not driven a Car or a Motorcycle since, a friend of mine brought a Harley Sporster and asked me if I want to ride it,but I said No F<>King way,but can I sit on it when its on and pretend, Wow,what power-I thought as I sat on it.   

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Ken G. wrote:    Yep, I

Ken G. wrote:

    Yep, I had a Suzuki motorcycle and was hit by a old lady and she dragged me into a driveway, my handle bar went into her back bumper and she didn't know that she was dragging me, I thought that the Bike might blow up,because as she dragged me,my Bike was making alot of sparks. Anyway, I was in Traction - head & feet for awhile in the Hospital and since then I have not driven a Car or a Motorcycle since, a friend of mine brought a Harley Sporster and asked me if I want to ride it,but I said No F<>King way,but can I sit on it when its on and pretend, Wow,what power-I thought as I sat on it.   

Good Grief!!!

I hope you had a good attorney...and good doctor, of course.

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redneF wrote:cj wrote:I am

redneF wrote:

cj wrote:

I am not sure about red. 

I can't be sure of me either, cj.

Tomorrow I might change my mind, about everything...

cj wrote:
1.  He said he owns a corporation - he is a "corporate" person.

  1a.  Okay, his persona is very like some of the "hard chargers" I have met elsewhere.

Actually, I'm not an overly aggressive person by nature. I just don't 'deviate'.

 

cj wrote:
1b.  But it could be easy enough to fake it - just read Dilbert for some ideas.

I completely agree. Anyone with good 'soft skills' knows how people put up a 'front'.

I manage teams, I structure teams, and I negotiate contracts, and I battle in court.

You get good at 'figuring' people out, and recognizing 'patterns' in behaviour.

cj wrote:
  1c.  But I could be all wrong.

It would be great (maybe/maybe not) if our predictions about people were accurate.

I know that I've made mistakes in accepting, and rejecting certain people, based on my notions. Tons of times.

I'm still learning everyday. However, it's when I'm dispassionate when my 'hit rate' is usually in the 98-99% range to accurately predict a person's 'fundamental' attributes.

cj wrote:
 2.  He says he has lots of women, is married with daughter.

Just to clarify. I never said I have 'lots of women'.

I have 'had' lots of women, over the years, and continue to 'have lots of women interested' in me.

But, I've never been in an intimate relationship with 2 different women.

1- I've never had that kind of free time.

2- I've seen the drama and chaos that ensues when other people do it, and nothing is worth that kind of grief, IMO.

3- If I'm unhappy, I leave.

cj wrote:
   2a. Okay, that could be true.

I'm not a philanderer, if that's what you were thinking.

cj wrote:
   2b. I have to wonder - who would hang around someone who appears to be a user?

How could I possibly be using someone, when I'm completely autonomous?

Using someone for sex?

That's an oxymoron.

Sex is a zero sum game (if you're doing it right). No winners, no losers.

People participate in having sex with each other.

The net gain/loss is 0.

cj wrote:
    2c. But I could be wrong.

Or right.

50/50

cj wrote:
  3. He says he has his pick of women.

And here is where it all goes pear shaped.

The bias.

Women can have their pick of sexual partners, and men can't?

How does that work in reality?

It doesn't.

Is the assumption that there are less women who would bed Tom Cruise than men who would bed Nicole Kidman?

I have not seen 1 study that would indicate anything of the sort.

The whole "Men are led by their dicks" misandry is hackneyed beyond absurdity.

Ever heard of 'Beatlemania'?

Ever heard of 'Elvis'?

What leads females into such absolute hysteria over the opposite sex? They don't have dicks.

I've never seen or heard of a male fainting because of an attraction to female.

So, why don't the 'dime store psychologists' ever explain what drive this is, if it is not a sexual drive?

cj wrote:
  3a. Okay, if he is wearing big expensive looking jewelry and obviously expensive clothes and drives an expensive car and hangs in upscale bars ogling the bar cats - what does he expect to happen?

Actually, there are distinctly different women who will respond to someone who is 'dressed up', compared to someone who is 'dressed down'. Although, there is some overlap.

And being really 'good looking' is more a detriment, than an asset, due to fear.

Same as for women.

 

cj wrote:
  3b. Definitely not nice of me, but you get what you go for - and if you are going for playmates impressed by your money and/or power that is what you will get.  There are a lot of people who like that setup.

I'm not into materialistic people. I'm into goal driven people. If the only goal is money, I'm not interested in having a personal relationship with them. But, having said that, I've learned that when there is a great disparity in incomes, more than likely, it will affect the relationship.

While I never used to discriminate against income. Now I do. But, not for material reasons. For 'practical' reasons.

cj wrote:
  3c. I could be all wrong.

At least you're honest, and critical of your thoughts.

cj wrote:
 Red, what you are writing does not impress me as you being the sort of person I would hang with.  Or have sex with. 

What does what I say have anything to do with how I would treat someone I was intimately involved with?

I don't see the double standard in my thinking.

Women know that a large number of men love pussy.

I know that a large number of women love cock.

What's the problem??

 

All other things being equal, would a woman not have a huge preference for men who don't have 'sexual hangups'?

Would you think that a woman was being a 'dick' if she did?

cj wrote:
  My experience is those men (and women) who brag about their prowess are usually lousy lovers. 

And my experience is that women who think that just liking sex makes them all equal between the sheets, are ignorant.

There are a few things that aid in being a good lover. And penis 'size' or 'stamina', are not even necessary. Otherwise women would marry dildos.

If a man's 'love making' begins and ends with his penis, then he's not a great lover. He's just a life support system for a dildo.

The brain is the most vital 'sex organ', and the skin is the largest sex organ.

Vaginal intercourse is but a small aspect of 'good sex'.

For the male, or the female.

cj wrote:
 You might be an exception. 

I've never had a woman leave me, nor have I ever had one that didn't want to me to continue having sex with her, after I left.

If I was there, it was because the sex was great. Otherwise, I'd still be looking for someone to commit to.

Why would I settle for less?

Would certain women settle for less?

In my exeprience? I know plenty that would, and do. I know women who pick security over sex, and use sex to procure security for themselves via a male.

That's not my problem.

I have always been autonomous.

Sex is sex.

And even though I could use 'my sex' as a 'bargaining chip', to 'gain' something, I never have.

I've never 'lost', anything, having sex.

It's just sex.

No winners, no losers.

 

Thank you for taking the time to answer thoughtfully to my post.  I believe I understand what you are saying a little better. 

I do not lump "all" men or women together.  Some people are less driven by sex hormones than others.  And while usually men need more sexual release than women, it is a continuum, not an absolute.  There are some men who need sex less often than most women.  Some women who need sex more often than most men.  And when you get into what turns people on, there is way more diversity than what can be found in a single continuum.

Sandycane is perfectly justified in having her own turn ons, her own needs, and her own ways of coping.  So are you.  And the rest of us.  That it is not your choice or style has no weight since her choice and style are valid for her.

I don't see the attraction of the PCD for men or women.  And while I joke about the Chippendales, I have never actually seen a show of theirs and if offered tickets, I would probably exchange them for a seat at a play or the opera.  But that is my preferences not yours. 

Sex is more than sex - more than scratching an itch.  I screwed around way more than I should have in my younger days.  I know that sex is best if you love and care for your partner and they love and care for you right back.  Sex is one of the few times I can honestly say that under the right conditions, all players are winners.

Not a zero sum game, at all.

 

-- I feel so much better since I stopped trying to believe.

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here's a new song from a

here's a new song from a REAL musician that i think may be relevant to several people on this thread:

 

"I asked my father,
I said, 'Father change my name.'
The one I'm using now it's covered up
with fear and filth and cowardice and shame."
--Leonard Cohen