God is logical?????????????
There is no way I can conclude that theism is 'sound', or 'logical'.
When you break it down, it only becomes more and more absurd, to me.
According to these people, the whole of the universe, apart from us, is basically superfluous. The universe is designed as, and created as, a moratorium for us, by a god.
A distraction, that will filter some of us from making their way back to this god, wherever that may be.
And the ones who don't, are to suffer eternally, for becoming distracted from playing 'Simons Says'.
That's pathologically insane, sadistic, and masochistic.
How do these people reconcile that?
What kind of Stockholm Syndrome is that?
I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy" : David Brooks
" Only on the subject of God can smart people still imagine that they reap the fruits of human intelligence even as they plow them under." : Sam Harris
Red is a good name for you since it is associated with fire, which shall be your only color around you. It will be aweful for an interior decorator to only work with red.
To simply ask the question if God is logical implies that there is a God, thus debunking and demoting you to theist which you admit as absurd.
I too would admit that general theists are absurd. Only a specific Christian theist with a proper understanding of the Trinity can be logical and rational.
You don't crawl up to God and those who don't crawl go to hell. You make a choice. To live your life pleasing to God, or yourself. If yourself, hellfire. If God, heaven.
Thus "atheists" is a very very selfish religion. It's a religion of pride.
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
Jean Chauvin wrote:
Your title was not satrical.
I checked with the source.
Me, says it was.Jean Chauvin wrote:The perpetual question marks perhaps is due to your jitters regarding your torment in hell.
I've heard the stupid Christian propaganda, and I still willingly want to live a life that would shoot me straight there.
So, what's the problem with that?Jean Chauvin wrote:For an agnostic to argue against God, they must assume God "exists" in order for them to assume He doesn't.
I'm not arguing against a figment of propaganda.
I'm simply pointing out the insanity of the propaganda, and arguing how stupid you people must be.Jean Chauvin wrote:So all of God's enemies do this
That's just stupid. So Evolution is the 'enemy' of the Creationist?
I was right, you people must be stupid.Jean Chauvin wrote:I did not say "atheism" and Christianity compete.
You mistakenly asserted that atheism was a religion that was counter to your religion.
How long have you suffered 'gaps' in your thought process?Jean Chauvin wrote:That's funny.
That's my line...Jean Chauvin wrote:And there are valid dichotomy's in the world.
What do you think either/or is?Jean Chauvin wrote:Like Good and Evil.
Good and evil are subjective terms. They are not objective values. You cannot measure them.
They are 'feelings', and 'thoughts' that people have. Like happy and sad.Jean Chauvin wrote:But a Dichotomy does not imply competion.
Is there an echo in here?...
Jean Chauvin wrote:I have asked many so called atheists this question, not ONE has given me an answer (because they can't). Instead, they define atheism as "soft atheism" described in George Smith's book and use their own Scottsman Fallacy (very funny).
Try not to use the scape goat. Ready, go.
What logical justification does one have to be an atheist.
Skepticism is a base instinct for survival. It is a reflex.
We are born this way.
Skeptics and atheists.
We can only move 'away' from skeptisicm/atheism, or 'fall back' to skepticism/atheism.
Neither requires logic, at all.
If one moves away from skepticism/atheism, it's because they've adopted something else.
The onus is on you to show why you've abandoned your base instinct, and adopted a particular propaganda.Jean Chauvin wrote:Make an argument as to the religion of "atheism" as being the most sound and valid worldview known to man.
It's completely natural to our species.
It's inherent in us.
We are born completely oblivious to the natural world.Jean Chauvin wrote:Come on Red. Don't say it's a lack of belief in God.
You want me to lie to you?
I know you people love to be 'sold' on an ideal, but, I haven't got a 'sales pitch'.
All I've got is the 'fact' that a non theist, is called an atheist.
One who does not adopt any gods, is an atheist.
What's wrong with that answer?Jean Chauvin wrote:I know all the phony definitions.
You haven't backed that claim. And you never will, because it's a logical fallacy.Jean Chauvin wrote:Just give me an argument as to your position being the most sound and valid position in the world.
I already did that.
We are all born atheists.
If you can falsify that, then you might have a case.
Are there any 'theist' newborn infants?
How do you study that?Jean Chauvin wrote:When I ask this, the "atheist" becomes a robot and goes into a trance state in a kind of neo-atheistic mode.
I think that's because they're on to you, and pulling your leg...Jean Chauvin wrote:...atheism is the lack of belief in God. Then logically, since belief IS knowledge, they you lack knowledge.
You mean there's some evidence of a god??
Jesus Fucking Christ!!!!
Why didn't you say so?????
What is it??
Jean Chauvin wrote:Show me why it is not via telling me that Atheism is the best worldview out there.
Because we focus entirely on reality...Jean Chauvin wrote:What about Skepticism?
It's what prevents us from swallowing too many marbles, and not reproducing...Jean Chauvin wrote:Is Atheism superior to Skepticism?
It's natural skepticism which prevents some of us from being theists.
The 'atheist', is just a label to be distinguishable from the 'gullible'.
Atheism is not a movement. It's steadfastness.
Jean Chauvin wrote:...Most Logical Christian...
That's an oxymoron, you (oxy)moron...
Good post redneF
"Don't seek these laws to understand. Only the mad can comprehend..." -- George Cosbuc