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There is no yes or no answer to that. The reason is because some of it is understood to be taken literal, and some of it is understood to be taken metaphorically. unlike the atheistic assumption that we can just pick and choose what to take literal and what not to, there is extensive research that goes into understanding what must be taken literal and not. Most of what should not be taken literally is pretty obvious. Beyond literal and metaphorical, there are some parts that are known to be parables and some understood to be historical.
ultimately the answer depends on what part of the Bible you're talking about. Don't take it the wrong way, the questionable parts are not pertinent to the belief system of Christianity and are only support for the personality of God and/or a progression in a timelilne. Some are good life lesson stories... e.g. Job is a book in question as to whether it really happened or not... it can be in question because it is understood to be the oldest story in the Bible. The likelihood of it being a parable and not historically accurate is better in my mind due to some extra spiritual characters that are not exampled through the rest of the Bible.
We can prove that George Washington existed, but no sane person would claim he could preform miracles. So even if one were to accept the alleged existence of the Jesus character, there would be absolutely NO evidence that the claims in the bible of the super natural things he is alleged to have done, can be verified or falsified or independently replicated.
Peppering a book with real places or real people does not make fantastic claims true, nor does it confirm the divinity of any god claim, much less his.
"good life lessons" again, another so what. I can find morals in Star Wars and Harry Potter without believing in the fantastic claims in those movies/books.
Deity claims have the same motif at their core. The utopia placebo gap answer that somehow "someone" a human like entity with super powers will swoop the "chosen people" off the train tracks and defeat the villain.
Cap wants to claim "uniqueness" to separate himself from other Christians, but in the end it is still a defense of an invisible human like entity with super powers and no physical material.
"I am not like the others" is an old dead argument.
"it depends" in regards to moral stories vs literal fact, still misses the point that the deity itself, much less the omni-atributes of such an alleged being are not testable or falsifiable.
It all boils down to credulous faith and gullibility in merely wanting a super hero to exist.
Cap merely has bought into an ancient superstition and myth. The book was written over a 1,000 year period with books left out. This hardly seems to be a perfect or efficient plan for an alleged being who wants us to believe in him.
How long would a bicycle company put up with paying a assembly instruction manual as convoluted as the bible? If I wrote an assembly manual that claimed praying to Mickey Mouse would magically make sprocket a fit on top of sprocket b, who would find such a instruction book credible merely because sprockets and bikes are real?
The bible no matter HOW you interpret it is a human written book and was not handed down by a god. It is merely a book of myth that is still currently popular. It is full of scientific absurdity and can hardly be called a book of morality.
Wake up Cap, in the end you are merely trying to defend a super hero concept. You like the idea of being special and "chosen". Your problem is the reality of evolution and the nature of the entire universe would say you are not special.
All the humans in the past, prior to Christianity, and all the humans that will be born will all end up the same way, and the planet itself too, will die. There is no need for a divine fictional super hero to state reality. Not yours, not any.
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