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Good Evening all.

Hello.

 

I am a former Apostolic Pentecostal, YEC, tongue talking, born again, goober of a pompous arse!  I found myself slowly pulling away after a steady injection of knowledge and good old Missouri hose sense.  In a nutshell, I woke up one day and discovered that I no longer believed any of it.

Granted, there were many, many nights of pain and psychological withdrawl that led me through some of the darkest and most liberating paths I ever walked, but it seems a long ways off now.

 

I am now a fully functional and politely grumpy atheist who may have the only ten year old in Missouri who is reading Sagan, thinks Dawkins is awesome and can have a pretty impressive conversation on the problems with Lamarkian theory and how he would have got it right had he only understood genetics....

She aspires to be an evolutionary biologist.  I'm proud of that.  She will grow up without the debilitating ignorance and apathy towards knowledge I had to fight through.

 

I look forward to chatting with everyone.

 

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Welcome, you have an awesome

Welcome, you have an awesome kid. Im jelous.


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 I like your profile

 I like your profile picture, welcome to the forum.


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Great intro, Bard.

 

Welcome.

There are other no-longer tortured former fundies here but not many penties.

Congrats on your escape and your smart kid. I guess that's called the application of free will? Sagan at ten? Impressive.

We look forward to a detailed unraveling of tongue speak at some time of your convenience - it's a point of regular discussion.

Did you know you were doing the tongue speaking yourself or did you feel something?

 

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tongue talking

If it pleases, I will start a thread in one of the other areas to launch into the subtleties and odd nature of glossolalia, a topic I find wildly fascinating!

 

Bradthebard 

 

 

edit to add:  ...as it turns out there already exists a thread so I posted in that one!

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Welcome you should enjoy

Welcome you should enjoy being here. I do.


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Welcome! 

Welcome!

 

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You might want to look into

You might want to look into Daniel Dennet's interviews with still practicing clergy who are affirmed athiests. Sounds similar to your situation. Welcome.

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Welcome to the forum.

Welcome to the forum.

Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare


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connerman wrote:You might

connerman wrote:

You might want to look into Daniel Dennet's interviews with still practicing clergy who are affirmed athiests. Sounds similar to your situation. Welcome.

I like your Avatar dude. I'm also an ex-minister. Dennett will do it though


 

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I am in the middle of

I am in the middle of Conciousness Explained right now. I love Dennett. 

 

He has an awesome beard too....

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BardlishtheMagnifico wrote:I

BardlishtheMagnifico wrote:

I am in the middle of Conciousness Explained right now. I love Dennett. 

 

He has an awesome beard too....

Yea I've got it out to re-read since its been a long time. I am presently reading David Chalmers new book the Character of Consciousness... two polar opposites on the question and both excellent. I think Chalmers is right that Dennett formulates the functions of consciousness well but does not get to actual experience itself.


 

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TGBaker wrote:connerman

TGBaker wrote:

connerman wrote:

You might want to look into Daniel Dennet's interviews with still practicing clergy who are affirmed athiests. Sounds similar to your situation. Welcome.

I like your Avatar dude. I'm also an ex-minister. Dennett will do it though

 

 

Lol, I think everyone loves his avatar.

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mellestad wrote:TGBaker

mellestad wrote:

TGBaker wrote:

connerman wrote:

You might want to look into Daniel Dennet's interviews with still practicing clergy who are affirmed athiests. Sounds similar to your situation. Welcome.

I like your Avatar dude. I'm also an ex-minister. Dennett will do it though

 

 

Lol, I think everyone loves his avatar.

Notice my signature at the bottom IS Zappa. I just don't have the Zappa avatar. Gosh avatar envy.  whaddya know!!!! Now I can't have it cause he's usin' it. DENIED1


 

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Hello! Where are you from

Hello!

 

Where are you from in Missiouri, I'm from STL myself. 

 


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To quote Obe Wan from the original Star Wars,

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lalib wrote:Hello! Where

lalib wrote:

Hello!

 

Where are you from in Missiouri, I'm from STL myself. 

 

 

I work in St Charles but I live out in Troy.  About forty miles west of St Louis proper.

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Hey, welcome.I am also a

Hey, welcome.

I am also a Dennett fan.

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BardlishtheMagnifico

BardlishtheMagnifico wrote:

lalib wrote:

Hello!

 

Where are you from in Missiouri, I'm from STL myself. 

 

 

I work in St Charles but I live out in Troy.  About forty miles west of St Louis proper.

 

Cool, I mainly stick to the suburbs and downtown when at university. 


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BobSpence1 wrote:Hey,

BobSpence1 wrote:

Hey, welcome.

I am also a Dennett fan.

YEA WELL, you're not the one who embarrassed himself by asking Dennet, "Why would I want your autograph?"

 

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Brian37 wrote:BobSpence1

Brian37 wrote:

BobSpence1 wrote:

Hey, welcome.

I am also a Dennett fan.

YEA WELL, you're not the one who embarrassed himself by asking Dennet, "Why would I want your autograph?"

 

I probably would have made a fool of myself in the opposite way, if I had met him like that.

"Oh, Oh, you're Daniel Dennet! You're my hero! I've read all your books! I'm your biggest fan!" etc.

Assuming I wasn't completely tongue-tied.

Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality

"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris

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