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Watching Star Trek, any Atheist Trekkies out there

 I am 31 years old. I am a former tattoo artist. I have sung in metal bands. I consider myself to be generally a hip guy. But I grew up watching Star Trek The Next Generation with my Dad, who is the first atheist in my life. My Dad has always treated truth like a bond that makes humanity work, and that for that to happen we have to resist bullshit. My Dad popped the Santa Clause bubble, and also (in his own gentle way) the God bubble. He also introduced me to his favorite character in this brilliant space operaa: Lt. Commander Data. 

I decided that I wanted to try to reconnect with this experience. I am really into Sci Fi movies and books, and I am even more into comic books. So I figured I might at least learn some sci fi canon. But it has really blown me away how much I love Star Trek. 

I think most people who watched it at least liked The Next Generation. 

 

So I will ask for everyone who reads this to please provide their favorite Star Trek character if you have one. 

 

Mine is hands down T'Pol from Enterprise! 


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I'll get to this later, but

I'll get to this later, but I just have to say:

 

 

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 I'm a huge sci-fi fan. My

 I'm a huge sci-fi fan. My favorite is the original series, I love the horrible special effects and that they were too damn stupid to put seat belts or harnesses on the chairs. I watched most of the Next Generation, DS9 and the first year or two of Voyager and then lost interest. Never watched Enterprise, kind of felt like the dead horse had been beaten enough.

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Love the latest movie - Star

Love the latest movie - Star Trek (2009) - and I can't make up my mind between the new Scotty - Simon Pegg - or Karl Urban as McCoy.  Though the young Chekov and Sulu were great as well.

In the old series - um - Uhuru for being female on a combat ship and not making her role smarmy or butch.

And for comedy - Galaxy Quest - the greatest Star Trek parody of all time.

 

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 Well, hello there.   My

 

Well, hello there.

 

My father was a nerd back before I was born and I have the nerd gene. I also have the navigation gene but I digress...

 

Anyhow, my father was a consultant to Desi Arnaz when he set up the original studio where TOS was filmed. Growing up, I played with official merchandise that was a personal gift from Desi Arnaz. For the record, even thought TOS was a CBS deal, my toys had the NBC logo on them because the deal fell through before the first episode.

 

So yah, I go all the way back.

 

Fast forward to the 90's:

 

So I am doing crowd control at TNG conventions. I can tell you plenty of stories from that time.

 

George Takei is not really a screaming queen. Many years ago, I walked him to an appearance and spent like 20 minutes alone with him. He had nothing to prove and had I had not a clue at the time, so I would not have been impressed. He was a typical reserved Japanese man.

 

The shirtless, sweath Takei from “The Naked Time” can be seen as a dead giveaway but IRL, he is not that dude.

 

Nichelle Nichols: Well, every time she showed up a bunch of people would call in a bomb threat. Never was a bomb found but the threats had to be dealt with. The episode “Plato's stepchildren” was the first interracial kiss ever broadcast.

 

Brent Spiner: I remember one con where some dude had a small gym bag. He opened it up for me to show the yellow cat inside. So we have a Spiner fan who brings a yellow cat to a con. I got on the radio to make sure that he never got close to the stage. I was afraid that he was going to get the cat autographed.

 

Michael Dorn: Pussy. Really, he is a huge pussy. I cannot say Pussy enough. He felt the need for twenty security people to stand between him and the crowd. To do that guts the staff from normal responsibilities.

 

As if we were ever going to do anything other than take a dive if he got rushed. That and who the fuck cares about him enough to make such a deal in the first place.

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Jean Luc Picard, of course!

Jean Luc Picard, of course! What a Man.


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mindcore wrote:So I will ask

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So I will ask for everyone who reads this to please provide their favorite Star Trek character if you have one. 

Mine is hands down T'Pol from Enterprise! 

Favorite character...that's hard. Pobably Dr. McCoy.

But I like Capt. Janeway, Data, Capt Piccard, and Capt. Archer too.

 

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Another sci-fi fan here. I

Another sci-fi fan here. I just prefer books, because I don't know about many good sci-fi serials. Must look at the good old X-files some day.

When I was a kid, I regularly got up at 5 in the morning on the weekend to catch two episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.

But later, when I watched the old series with Enterprise under James T. Kirk's command, I remember thinking... Nah, the plot is always just about basic psychology (men vs. women etc) and outsmarting the enemy, how predictable...

As for my favorite characters, I'm really the generation of Voyager, so I'll pick mine there. Catherine Janeway and many others are hard to forget. But my favorite of them would be Seventh of Nine. Among other things, her character shows how emotions work, when you have shut them down for a long time and then suddenly switch them on.
I can see how psychology advanced since the first Star Trek, or maybe some taboos dropped.

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mellestad wrote:I'll get to

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I'll get to this later, but I just have to say:

 

 

 

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mindcore wrote:

So I will ask for everyone who reads this to please provide their favorite Star Trek character if you have one. 

Mine is hands down T'Pol from Enterprise! 

Favorite character...that's hard. Pobably Dr. McCoy.

But I like Capt. Janeway, Data, Capt Piccard, and Capt. Archer too.

 

 

McCoy is a bad ass, and a good model skeptic.

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Luminon wrote:Another sci-fi

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Another sci-fi fan here. I just prefer books, because I don't know about many good sci-fi serials. Must look at the good old X-files some day.

When I was a kid, I regularly got up at 5 in the morning on the weekend to catch two episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.

But later, when I watched the old series with Enterprise under James T. Kirk's command, I remember thinking... Nah, the plot is always just about basic psychology (men vs. women etc) and outsmarting the enemy, how predictable...

As for my favorite characters, I'm really the generation of Voyager, so I'll pick mine there. Catherine Janeway and many others are hard to forget. But my favorite of them would be Seventh of Nine. Among other things, her character shows how emotions work, when you have shut them down for a long time and then suddenly switch them on.
I can see how psychology advanced since the first Star Trek, or maybe some taboos dropped.

Atheist trekkies? Sorry I misread. No theism, I promise.

 

Lumninon, the apologies should be mine to make. I forget that there are theists that hang out on this board. if you hang out on the RRS board and like Star Trek there is plenty in common between us.

 

Forgive me for making that intro, I really want everyone who is into Star Trek to participate.

I have been meaning to check out Voyager, but I am still somewhat ignorant.  Is it 7 of 9, or 709? Either way she is way hot!

I suggest you check out Star Trek the Next Generation, that one is the best one in my opinion.

 

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I'm a gigantic Star Trek

I'm a gigantic Star Trek fan.  I credit science fiction in my childhood (reading, movies, TV) in general for a large part of why I am so attracted to rational thinking and science.  It has been a huge impact in my life.  I still daydream about space ships Sticking out tongue

 

As far as favorite characters...well, there are a lot.  I'm too young to have seen the original series in its glory days, but I grew up watching all the movies.  Wrath of Khan is probably my favorite, but I like them all.  As far as TV, TNG and DS9 are my favorites, for different reasons.  I like how DS9 made StarTrek more 'real'.  I like all the series though.  Janeway has an amazing voice.  I liked the first two TNG movies, the rest are meh.

The new Star Trek remake is *amazing*.  Absolutely love it.  I could rant for hours (and have, to the dismay of my wife!) but I'll leave it at that.

 

Favorite character though?  Honestly, that's pretty easy for me.  Let me demonstrate:

 

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Sandycane wrote:Jean Luc

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Jean Luc Picard, of course! What a Man.

http://www.wrongtees.com/images/dynamic/what_would_picard_do_design_black.png

 

Thats my answer to your statement!

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Help, I'm trapped on Youtube

Help, I'm trapped on Youtube watching Star Trek clips!!!  I predict a lack of productivity for a while.

 

You wanna see something fucked up, and rather awesome?  Here you go.

 

 

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Huge Trek fan... although

Huge Trek fan... although I've never been to a St Convention... I got really dissapointed when they jumped the shark with "Enterprise"... That show had great potential...

My favorite series was Deep Space 9... despite Avery Brooks lack of presence.... Although I met him in an airport, nice Guy

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 I am a big fan of the

 I am a big fan of the series, grew up watching the original star trek shows and movies, then after The next generation, DS9, voyager and enterprise ( I agree with rich this one had lots of potential). But I love Sci-Fi of all sorts, loved Tron with all it's cheesy fx and all, but it was forward thinking for it's time. Last star fighter, star wars series (the original 3 movies the last three were just too damn boring/annoying to finish watching in one sitting) Back to the future triology etc, etc, etc. So many sci-fi movies and series. So much fun Laughing out loud


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mellestad wrote:I'm a

mellestad wrote:

I'm a gigantic Star Trek fan.  I credit science fiction in my childhood (reading, movies, TV) in general for a large part of why I am so attracted to rational thinking and science.  It has been a huge impact in my life.  I still daydream about space ships Sticking out tongue

 

As far as favorite characters...well, there are a lot.  I'm too young to have seen the original series in its glory days, but I grew up watching all the movies.  Wrath of Khan is probably my favorite, but I like them all.  As far as TV, TNG and DS9 are my favorites, for different reasons.  I like how DS9 made StarTrek more 'real'.  I like all the series though.  Janeway has an amazing voice.  I liked the first two TNG movies, the rest are meh.

The new Star Trek remake is *amazing*.  Absolutely love it.  I could rant for hours (and have, to the dismay of my wife!) but I'll leave it at that.

 

Favorite character though?  Honestly, that's pretty easy for me.  Let me demonstrate:

 

 

That Picard scene was so awesome that I posted it on Reddit. 

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mellestad wrote:Help, I'm

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Help, I'm trapped on Youtube watching Star Trek clips!!!  I predict a lack of productivity for a while.

 

You wanna see something fucked up, and rather awesome?  Here you go.

 

 

 

So far this thread has made me giddy with videos. Thank you for sharing this! 

 

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mindcore wrote: McCoy is a

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 McCoy is a bad ass, and a good model skeptic.

I liked him for his smart@$$ remarks and for his voice of reason... in the Spock-Kirk-McCoy trio, he was the voice of reason between the idealistic emotion driven  Kirk and the realist logic driven Spock...

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mindcore wrote:Sandycane

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Sandycane wrote:

Jean Luc Picard, of course! What a Man.

http://www.wrongtees.com/images/dynamic/what_would_picard_do_design_black.png

 

Thats my answer to your statement!

Love that picture! Might have to change my avatar.

 

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mellestad wrote:Help, I'm

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Help, I'm trapped on Youtube watching Star Trek clips!!!  I predict a lack of productivity for a while.

 

You wanna see something fucked up, and rather awesome?  Here you go.

 

 

 That was great!! Imagine, Spock and Kirk in a torrid romance...  

Nice to know you and I agree 100% on at least one thing: Picard.

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mindcore wrote:Lumninon, the

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Lumninon, the apologies should be mine to make. I forget that there are theists that hang out on this board. if you hang out on the RRS board and like Star Trek there is plenty in common between us.

 

Forgive me for making that intro, I really want everyone who is into Star Trek to participate.

I have been meaning to check out Voyager, but I am still somewhat ignorant.  Is it 7 of 9, or 709? Either way she is way hot!

I suggest you check out Star Trek the Next Generation, that one is the best one in my opinion.

All right Smiling
Seven of Nine is not only hot, she's also logical, intelligent, perfectionist... A fascinating combination. I remember the episode when she played the violin. Perfectionism is an interesting vice, it compels you to do things precisely, but takes the joy, fun and satisfaction away. Another thing she demonstrated. I think her character was written by someone really clever and experienced in psychology.

 

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Ahhhh... sci-fi...

Ahhh... Star Trek! I grew up on it, as is assumed by how big of a nerd I am (if it existed I would join the Church of the "holy" D20) and I would watch it whenever Doctor Who wasn't on. What I loved about it was that instead of stories about magic and the like, they were stories about ethics and morality and human choices. I always liked the original and TNG, but after that I didn't think they held up very well. If I had to pick a favorite character, it would have to be Q. He had the power of a god, but was simply a powerful alien. Talk about a great literary devise for stories about power, corruption, and ethics!

But as can be seen from my avatar, my real sci-fi love is Doctor Who. Personally I would say fuck having the Enterprise OR the Millennium Falcon, I want a TARDIS!!! Which, as I'm a pervy nerd, would obviously include Romana (Richard Dawkins, you lucky bastard, marrying my first childhood nerd crush), Rose "Bad Wolf" Tyler, and Amy Pond!

Oh... the things I would be willing to do to be on the TARDIS between the three of them...

Yeah, I'm not too proud, I realize that I'm a loser... But I can dream, can't I?

And I do! XD

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B166ER wrote:Ahhh... Star

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Ahhh... Star Trek! I grew up on it, as is assumed by how big of a nerd I am (if it existed I would join the Church of the "holy" D20) and I would watch it whenever Doctor Who wasn't on. What I loved about it was that instead of stories about magic and the like, they were stories about ethics and morality and human choices. I always liked the original and TNG, but after that I didn't think they held up very well. If I had to pick a favorite character, it would have to be Q. He had the power of a god, but was simply a powerful alien. Talk about a great literary devise for stories about power, corruption, and ethics!

...

Q!!!! I forgot about Q - I loved Q! (but, not more than Picard, though.)

That little Ferringhi guy was good, too.... and Troy's mother... and the Enterprise Klingon, what was his name??? I would place him on equal ground with Picard. He was HOT!

Heck, they were all good.

( 'Ferringhi' is in Spellcheck!)

 

I just remembered - Worf!!

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B166ER wrote:Ahhh... Star

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Ahhh... Star Trek! I grew up on it, as is assumed by how big of a nerd I am (if it existed I would join the Church of the "holy" D20) and I would watch it whenever Doctor Who wasn't on. What I loved about it was that instead of stories about magic and the like, they were stories about ethics and morality and human choices. I always liked the original and TNG, but after that I didn't think they held up very well. If I had to pick a favorite character, it would have to be Q. He had the power of a god, but was simply a powerful alien. Talk about a great literary devise for stories about power, corruption, and ethics!

But as can be seen from my avatar, my real sci-fi love is Doctor Who. Personally I would say fuck having the Enterprise OR the Millennium Falcon, I want a TARDIS!!! Which, as I'm a pervy nerd, would obviously include Romana (Richard Dawkins, you lucky bastard, marrying my first childhood nerd crush), Rose "Bad Wolf" Tyler, and Amy Pond!

Oh... the things I would be willing to do to be on the TARDIS between the three of them...

Yeah, I'm not too proud, I realize that I'm a loser... But I can dream, can't I?

And I do! XD

 

I have considered, for the last several years now, getting a tattoo of the D20. We should start a church of the holy D20 immediately! 

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 Q!!!! I forgot about Q - I

 

Q!!!! I forgot about Q - I loved Q! (but, not more than Picard, though.)

That little Ferringhi guy was good, too.... and Troy's mother... and the Enterprise Klingon, what was his name??? I would place him on equal ground with Picard. He was HOT!

Heck, they were all good.

( 'Ferringhi' is in Spellcheck!)

 

I just remembered - Worf!!

 

I think you expressed my typical response to Star Trek TNG. 

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 Luminon, I will have to

 Luminon, 

I will have to check it out. 

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Sandycane wrote:mellestad

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mellestad wrote:

Help, I'm trapped on Youtube watching Star Trek clips!!!  I predict a lack of productivity for a while.

 

You wanna see something fucked up, and rather awesome?  Here you go.

 

 

 That was great!! Imagine, Spock and Kirk in a torrid romance...  

Nice to know you and I agree 100% on at least one thing: Picard.

 

I sent this video to so many people. 

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SWEET!

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I have considered, for the last several years now, getting a tattoo of the D20.

I have wanted one for the longest time too, but not before I get the symbol of one of my favorite bands TchKung! on my left forearm and the TARDIS and the Drake equation on my right forearm.

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We should start a church of the holy D20 immediately!

I can see it now...

"And let us all bow our heads in prayer to the glorious laws of probability! Yea, and the holy D20 spaketh, 'Let my followers always roll critical hits and ne'er a critical miss!' and there was much rejoicing... and tallying up of EXP!"

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 Long live the church of

 Long live the church of the d20

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mindcore wrote: Long live

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 Long live the church of the d20

 

Where oh where did I read it?  In a space station, waiting for boarding, walking around and trying to decide which church and religion to meditate at.  There was a futuristic version of catholicism, the church of Elvis, some sort of new age-ish buddhism and so on.  Obviously, the author had a good time thinking them up. 

If I remember and have time - always probablistic these days - I'll see if I can't hunt down the thought.

 

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mindcore wrote: Long live

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 Long live the church of the d20

Gygax is dead, so is his cult.

 

Ed Green is still kicking...

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Kapkao wrote:mindcore

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 Long live the church of the d20

Gygax is dead, so is his cult.

 

Ed Green is still kicking...

 

Help me out, Gygax is the guy who created D&D? 

And who is Ed Green?

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( 'Ferringhi' is in Spellcheck!)

I think it's just Ferengi, and I liked Quark too, funny as character.

A favourite Trek character.... ooh that's a hard one. I've always had a major soft spot for Scotty and I agree with CJ, Simon Pegg is terrific in the 2009 reboot, but pushed to decide I could easily list whole casts as my favourite and I have at least one from every series.

In the original, hmm Spock, Scotty, Kirk, McCoy, Uhura.... ahh screw it all of em

TNG - Being a nerd kid, myself, I totally related to Wes Crusher (and lately I am loving the eeeevil Wil Wheaton of the BBT series) otherwise Data, Q and Tasha Yar.

DS9 - Dax and Julian.

Voyager - The Doctor is always good for a laugh. But, in truth, all of em, again.

Enterprise  - I guess it would have to be Archer, though I didn't like the series at all much on the whole.

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 Oh man, I had such a huge

 Oh man, I had such a huge crush on Jadzia Dax.

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 Hi all! I apologies for

 Hi all!

 

I apologies for being so naive noob.

I am a fun of sci-fi, .... but I have never watched Star Trek.  A couple of movies that had Star Trek in their title that I have tried to watch were not really good; and I guess they might be some not really good ones or not authentic ST movies.  Could anyone advise me please on where to start? What is the best Star Trek movie ever?   I like old Star Wars, Terminator with Arnold, Matrix, etc. so I thought I should have no problem with Star Trek, am I right?

 

Thanks.

 

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100percentAtheist wrote: Hi

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 Hi all!

 

I apologies for being so naive noob.

I am a fun of sci-fi, .... but I have never watched Star Trek.  A couple of movies that had Star Trek in their title that I have tried to watch were not really good; and I guess they might be some not really good ones or not authentic ST movies.  Could anyone advise me please on where to start? What is the best Star Trek movie ever?   I like old Star Wars, Terminator with Arnold, Matrix, etc. so I thought I should have no problem with Star Trek, am I right?

 

Thanks.

 

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If you want to understand and enjoy Star Trek I would not recommend starting with any of the movies (2009 one is an exception) they're all very much oriented to catering the standing fans of the series' and make little or no sense to 'noobs' usually.

If you're keen to really get what Star Trek is about you'll have to watch a few series episodes, preferably a Roddenberry lead series (the Original or TNG) then you might find yourself able to enjoy the movies more.

Alternately the "reboot" movie is terrific and better written to stand alone as an individual story than any other, it might succeed in catching your interest where the others haven't.

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 Oh man, I had such a huge crush on Jadzia Dax.

Upon further thought, I still have a huge crush on Jadzia Dax.

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 Oh man, I had such a huge crush on Jadzia Dax.

Upon further thought, I still have a huge crush on Jadzia Dax.

 

Connect the dots.........fa la la la laaaa,

 

yeah I have a crush on her too. 

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 100percentAtheist wrote:

 

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Hi all!

 

I apologies for being so naive noob.

 

I am a fun of sci-fi, .... but I have never watched Star Trek. A couple of movies that had Star Trek in their title that I have tried to watch were not really good; and I guess they might be some not really good ones or not authentic ST movies. Could anyone advise me please on where to start?

 

Trivially simple. Watch the even numbered movies. ST: 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 sucked. Nobody knows why but the pattern is obvious.

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Trivially simple. Watch the even numbered movies. ST: 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 sucked. Nobody knows why but the pattern is obvious.

Woah! that's completely true.

Fascinating, why did I not already know this?

 

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100percentAtheist wrote: Hi

100percentAtheist wrote:

 Hi all!

 

I apologies for being so naive noob.

I am a fun of sci-fi, .... but I have never watched Star Trek.  A couple of movies that had Star Trek in their title that I have tried to watch were not really good; and I guess they might be some not really good ones or not authentic ST movies.  Could anyone advise me please on where to start? What is the best Star Trek movie ever?   I like old Star Wars, Terminator with Arnold, Matrix, etc. so I thought I should have no problem with Star Trek, am I right?

 

Thanks.

 

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I would suggest Star Trek the Next Generation, you are likely to get a great episode at random. 

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Eloise wrote:Answers in Gene

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Trivially simple. Watch the even numbered movies. ST: 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 sucked. Nobody knows why but the pattern is obvious.

Woah! that's completely true.

Fascinating, why did I not already know this?

 

 

Must investigate further. 

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