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I would like to know what motivated you to take the blasphemy challenge if you believe that you cant be certain that it isnt real,

Im an atheist by the way its just this is something that has given me great anxiety and to you guys it seems like no big deal.

I would also like to know your opinions on it viewing it as a myth why would they say there was an unforgivable sin what was the motivation for writing this is why it has been so hard for me to fully know that it isnt real kind of like how theists believe in the gospels because they dont make since. and how come it is only mentioned once in the bible why doesnt paul mention it couldnt have been concieved after the epistles because they would have know it contradicted the message of jesus forgives all sins.

Seriously from a secular perspective what did it mean and who possible thought of it.

I dont understand why this isnt ever brought up.


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ymalmsteen887 wrote:Jeffrick

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                My world view has not changed much since childhood but  I did go through intense and eratic dreams in the early 80's I was going through a marrige break up at the time. My personal world was turning upside down and covered every emotion you can name. All of this certainly effected my dreams, meny nights I couldn't sleep. 

 

 

                 The good news is that you do get over it. I am middle age and comfortable now and married for 23 years to Sally. Things are going well.

Well even when I was a christian I was terrified of scary movies like the supernatural ones. I am thinking to get over it I am giong to have to expose myself to alot of disturbing imagery in order to get over it. But I fear that I cold cause my mind to become overwhlemed and develop paronia what do you think. Is that the best method to go about it or is that dangerous.

Someone said I am having these dreams becuase I am worrying about this stuff and trying to suppress the thoughts.

 

Well, 'suppressed thoughts' don't seem to exist, at least according to modern research.  But if you are dwelling on things a lot your brain might keep dwelling on them when you lose consciousness (sleep) and they can pop up in dreams.  If you are dreaming a lot and you don't normally dream that's probably a sign you aren't sleeping well more than anything else.

Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.


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ymalmsteen887 wrote:

Jeffrick wrote:

 

 

 

                My world view has not changed much since childhood but  I did go through intense and eratic dreams in the early 80's I was going through a marrige break up at the time. My personal world was turning upside down and covered every emotion you can name. All of this certainly effected my dreams, meny nights I couldn't sleep. 

 

 

                 The good news is that you do get over it. I am middle age and comfortable now and married for 23 years to Sally. Things are going well.

Well even when I was a christian I was terrified of scary movies like the supernatural ones. I am thinking to get over it I am giong to have to expose myself to alot of disturbing imagery in order to get over it. But I fear that I cold cause my mind to become overwhlemed and develop paronia what do you think. Is that the best method to go about it or is that dangerous.

Someone said I am having these dreams becuase I am worrying about this stuff and trying to suppress the thoughts.

 

Well, 'suppressed thoughts' don't seem to exist, at least according to modern research.  But if you are dwelling on things a lot your brain might keep dwelling on them when you lose consciousness (sleep) and they can pop up in dreams.  If you are dreaming a lot and you don't normally dream that's probably a sign you aren't sleeping well more than anything else.

The only thing I have noticed is that I will dream when i am wake up and then go back to sleep even the second time I wake up I will dream again they are mostly nightmares but occasionaly somthing good.


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Hi Ymalm

 

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Well even when I was a christian I was terrified of scary movies like the supernatural ones. I am thinking to get over it I am giong to have to expose myself to alot of disturbing imagery in order to get over it. But I fear that I cold cause my mind to become overwhlemed and develop paronia what do you think. Is that the best method to go about it or is that dangerous.

Someone said I am having these dreams becuase I am worrying about this stuff and trying to suppress the thoughts.

 

The scary thing about scary movies is the sudden deep noises. Humans are programmed to react to these by getting a major jolt of adrenaline so's to outrun a sabretooth cat. Turning the sound down eliminates the shock. 

The best way to handle scary movies is to dissect the premises. You'll quickly realise they are nothing but utter crap. I am now so bulletproof I don't even bother to watch them any more - it's a waste of time.

You don't need to expose yourself to such brainless films so don't bother with it. Just always ask whether or not proof of these things exists anywhere but the human imagination.

In a world of camera phones and YouTube there are still no videos of supernatural shit so we can be fairly well assured the supernatural is an interpretation of the fear reactions of the human brain's limbic system.

Movie makers simply use a range of tricks to take human imaginations on an emotional rollercoaster. It's like Aldous Huxley's Feelies but without the soma.

It's normal to have fearful dreams. Buy yourself a nightlight or read Paddington Bear before you go to sleep. And stop looking at weird shit on the Internet. It's bad for your health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ymalmsteen887 wrote:

Well even when I was a christian I was terrified of scary movies like the supernatural ones. I am thinking to get over it I am giong to have to expose myself to alot of disturbing imagery in order to get over it. But I fear that I cold cause my mind to become overwhlemed and develop paronia what do you think. Is that the best method to go about it or is that dangerous.

Someone said I am having these dreams becuase I am worrying about this stuff and trying to suppress the thoughts.

 

The scary thing about scary movies is the sudden deep noises. Humans are programmed to react to these by getting a major jolt of adrenaline so's to outrun a sabretooth cat. Turning the sound down eliminates the shock. 

The best way to handle scary movies is to dissect the premises. You'll quickly realise they are nothing but utter crap. I am now so bulletproof I don't even bother to watch them any more - it's a waste of time.

You don't need to expose yourself to such brainless films so don't bother with it. Just always ask whether or not proof of these things exists anywhere but the human imagination.

In a world of camera phones and YouTube there are still no videos of supernatural shit so we can be fairly well assured the supernatural is an interpretation of the fear reactions of the human brain's limbic system.

Movie makers simply use a range of tricks to take human imaginations on an emotional rollercoaster. It's like Aldous Huxley's Feelies but without the soma.

It's normal to have fearful dreams. Buy yourself a nightlight or read Paddington Bear before you go to sleep. And stop looking at weird shit on the Internet. It's bad for your health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What weird shit am I looking at? I know the stuff was made up for someone reason I am still freaked out about it. In paticular The Grudge and The Ring and things like that the imagery bothers me and I know if I don't get to a point to where I can look at that stuff and laugh. i am bringing it up on here cause its related to religion. The other day I said what would the worse kind of hell be for me and I said to spend eternity with the grudge and I had a dream the same night so it freaked me out and when I went back to sleep I had a dream I was running away from a wolf. I tried to find out why I had a dream about a wolf and I remembered that Disturbed music video "Animal" and there is a person with black hair and pale skin like the grudge and there are wolfs in the video although I hadnt seen the video in a long time thats why the dreams bother me since they are so well concived its really pissing me off.

A night lite is the worse thing for me I want to be secure and anxiety free not to mention what that would do to my self confidence which I am trying to work on. I can't get laid if I have a nightlight, lol.

The reason I am bringing it up on here is because I just got over the whole blasphemy thing and even being around my extended family and this stuff all the sudden came up its like my body knows that I have to get over this as well or I want be well.

 


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I have a wee LED light in the country so's to see what's going on in the cupboard. Yeah, the Grudge was creepy and the Ring was creepy the first time but just tedious the second. Honestly, if some tiny japanese tot with big scary eyes crawled into the bottom of my bed I'd use it as a f**king football. In truth the Grudge monster is a pathetic little shit - if ethereal it's powerless to hurt you and if physical you could tear it apart like a roast chicken.

 

 

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Atheistextremist wrote: I

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I have a wee LED light in the country so's to see what's going on in the cupboard. Yeah, the Grudge was creepy and the Ring was creepy the first time but just tedious the second. Honestly, if some tiny japanese tot with big scary eyes crawled into the bottom of my bed I'd use it as a f**king football. In truth the Grudge monster is a pathetic little shit - if ethereal it's powerless to hurt you and if physical you could tear it apart like a roast chicken.

 

 

By defintion you couldnt defeat it and that isnt what bothers me I can rationlize all day why it "couldnt be possible" its just the imagery scares me and was wondering if you could be come immune to it? I have had dreams about it ever since the movie came out and would like to put an end to my irrational fear of it. But I don't want to put myself into a delirious state by doing to much.


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ymalmsteen887 wrote:

Atheistextremist wrote:

 

I have a wee LED light in the country so's to see what's going on in the cupboard. Yeah, the Grudge was creepy and the Ring was creepy the first time but just tedious the second. Honestly, if some tiny japanese tot with big scary eyes crawled into the bottom of my bed I'd use it as a f**king football. In truth the Grudge monster is a pathetic little shit - if ethereal it's powerless to hurt you and if physical you could tear it apart like a roast chicken.

 

 

By defintion you couldnt defeat it and that isnt what bothers me I can rationlize all day why it "couldnt be possible" its just the imagery scares me and was wondering if you could be come immune to it? I have had dreams about it ever since the movie came out and would like to put an end to my irrational fear of it. But I don't want to put myself into a delirious state by doing to much.

 

so imagine yourself as a T-Rex and bite the silly thing in half. That whole movie was made with about 20 sound and camera guys hovering around a few dummies. The camera guy is right there, filming the action - about 2 feet away from the terrible monster and he walks out of the room of death with film in the can. Hardly threatening. 

 

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Atheistextremist wrote:

ymalmsteen887 wrote:

Atheistextremist wrote:

 

I have a wee LED light in the country so's to see what's going on in the cupboard. Yeah, the Grudge was creepy and the Ring was creepy the first time but just tedious the second. Honestly, if some tiny japanese tot with big scary eyes crawled into the bottom of my bed I'd use it as a f**king football. In truth the Grudge monster is a pathetic little shit - if ethereal it's powerless to hurt you and if physical you could tear it apart like a roast chicken.

 

 

By defintion you couldnt defeat it and that isnt what bothers me I can rationlize all day why it "couldnt be possible" its just the imagery scares me and was wondering if you could be come immune to it? I have had dreams about it ever since the movie came out and would like to put an end to my irrational fear of it. But I don't want to put myself into a delirious state by doing to much.

 

so imagine yourself as a T-Rex and bite the silly thing in half. That whole movie was made with about 20 sound and camera guys hovering around a few dummies. The camera guy is right there, filming the action - about 2 feet away from the terrible monster and he walks out of the room of death with film in the can. Hardly threatening. 

 

I Know there is nothing in reality like that to get me. Its still haunts my mind's eye is what I am saying. When I was a christian I would jsut pray and get a good feeling and it would go away. But it always came back so if I can get over this stuff I will be proven my parents who said the only thing that can fix that is god. I would like a girl to know that I am not afraid of anything but real world dangers. What exactly is my brain doing when it fears these things what evolutionary advantage is there to this? THere has to be a way to turn it off? When I am sleeping I am not afraid clearly its a function of my brain.


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