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What do you guys think of this article on Obama?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/28/obama.tough.question/index.html?hpt=T2

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico (CNN) -- An event billed as a discussion on the economy turned personal Tuesday when a woman asked President Barack Obama about his Christian faith and views on abortion.

The question came at a town hall-style meeting in the yard of an Albuquerque home as part of Obama's public outreach to explain his policies and campaign for Democrats in the November congressional elections.

With a recent survey showing that only a third of Americans can correctly identify Obama as a Christian, the president gave a personal account of his conversion as an adult and how his public service is part of his faith.

"I am a Christian by choice," Obama began, standing beneath a blazing sun, when asked why he is a Christian.

"I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead," Obama said. "Being my brothers' and sisters' keeper. Treating others as they would treat me. And I think also understanding that, you know, that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility that we all have to have as human beings."

Humans are "sinful" and "flawed" beings that make mistakes and "achieve salvation through the grace of God," the president continued, adding that we also can "see God in other people and do our best to help them find their, you know, their own grace."

"So that's what I strive to do," Obama said. "That's what I pray to do everyday. I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith."

At the same time, Obama emphasized his belief that freedom of religion is "part of the bedrock strength" of the United States.

"This is a country that is still predominantly Christian, but we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists" and others, he said, adding that "their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own, and that is part of what makes this country what it is."

The same questioner also asked Obama about regulations on early and late-term abortion, a politically charged issue in the abortion debate.

Obama responded that abortion should be "safe, legal and rare" in America, adding that families -- not the government -- "should be the ones making the decision."

Restrictions against late-term abortion are in place now, he said, adding that "people still argue and disagree about it. That's part of our Democratic tradition."

On September 19, Obama publicly attended church for the first time in nearly six months when the first family joined the 9 a.m. service at St. John's Church Lafayette Square, an Episcopal congregation about a block from the White House.

The family sat a few rows from the altar, among roughly 40 worshippers. Each family member received communion, led by the president.

A survey conducted in late July and early August by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that nearly one in five Americans believe Obama is a Muslim, up from around one in 10 Americans who said he was Muslim last year.

The number of Americans who expressed uncertainly about the president's religion, meanwhile, is much larger and has also grown, including among Obama's political base. For instance, fewer than half of Democrats and African-Americans now say that Obama is Christian.

According to the Pew survey released last month, most of those who think Obama is Muslim are Republicans, but the number of independents who believe he is Muslim has expanded significantly, from 10 percent last year to 18 percent this summer.

In March 2009, 36 percent of African-Americans said they didn't know what religion Obama practices. Now, 46 percent of African-Americans say they don't know, according to the survey.

 

 


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 The first time I saw

 The first time I saw Obama's speech several years ago, I thought "he is the same as Bush, all same b.s. that has the only one intention -  to get elected".   Now, I am getting more and more convinced that I can trust my first impressions.

 

He definitely lies.  He either lies that he believes in Jesus Christ, or he lies that there was Jesus Christ.  It is a loss-loss for reason, and , of course, it is a win-win for religion.   I want a president who would answer that "questioner" that he/she should go get better education, or if it fails, then perhaps she needs to see a psychiatrist. 


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I've said this before......

 

 

             I am sure Obama chose to become a christian on the same day he decided he would run for political office. He knew he could never get elected has an atheist, ergo he becomes a christian.  He held a media event to announce which D.C. church he and his family would attend  but has yet to find the time to attend it.  That makes him like several other Presidents who claimed to believe, when asked but were never church-goers, Regan, Nixon, Ford, Eisenhower, Truman both Roseveldts, Hoover, Taft and that is just the 20th century.

 

 

              Give Obama this credit, he does mention atheists  and agnostics when ever religion comes up. How meny other politicians dare to do that?

 

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Jeffrick wrote:

 

               Give Obama this credit, he does mention atheists  and agnostics when ever religion comes up. How meny other politicians dare to do that?

 

 

Indeed, we are now just second-class citizens, which is definitely better than "I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots" by Bush, Sr.

 


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Poor Barack

 

I think he's an atheist in an untenable position. America might be a great country but it's a shame it does not extend its citizens the rights it spouts in the constitution.

Our atheist Australian Prime Minister refused to go to the church service held at the opening of the new government day before yesterday. Instead she went for a quiet walk in the winter garden alone.

Righteous.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Obama's Religion

Thank you all for your comments. What I find strange is that many atheists and Christians I know both have something in common; they deny Obama is a Christian. But I don’t think either of them are using the evidence to make that assertion. All we can do is go off of what people profess and how they live. Sure we can point out inconsistencies and the like, but this is just a guy saying he follows a religion. If somebody says they are a Hindu, state over and over again they are Hindu, and have Hindu practices, then the evidence suggests an authentic claim. Obama professes to follow a certain religion and followed it way before his presidency (just to remove the political motives conspiracy).

I found a source from Christianity Today that said this:

Obama, on the other hand, has explicitly stated that Christ is his savior. In an interview in "Christianity Today" in 2008, Obama declared, "I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ." "Accepting Jesus Christ in my life," he added, "has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals." Obama also stressed that he had been a member of the same congregation for almost twenty years and asserted "I have never practiced Islam.

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/commentary/11638585/

Now that is some religious website, so take it for what it is worth. But it is a real interview.

I guess I am just taken aback that Christians and Atheists whom I know are on the same page denying Obama’s religion when he has clearly stated what he believes many times. It is probably the one issue I have seen more unity on between the two groups.

Thanks again for your comments.


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Sorry for the copy and paste

Sorry for the copy and paste add ons that went with that. Feel free to edit it out if you have the authority.


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How many fucking times do

How many fucking times do people have to question him?

If these idiots would bother reading the Constitution it shouldn't matter if he was a Jew, or Wicca or atheist. Questioning him about his religious beliefs is stupid. We had 8 years of Bush's Jebus and look at the fucking hole he put us in.

Hey dipshits, maybe you should stop worrying about your politicians religious beliefs and worry about your own fucking wallets.

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The fact he re-swore himself into office

 

Without the bible is enough for me. The rest is window dressing. "I believe in the redemptive power of jesus christ". Who the hell comes out with shit like that without a specific agenda?

As a preacher's kid Observer, I can assure you that the majority of church goers are not christians and that's just par for the course. Not sure why you think the 2 go together.

 

 

 

 

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