Brian37 wrote:

Luminon it is scientific fact, that even when awake we take in all sorts of data through our conscious input without being aware of it. Colors, smells, temperature, touch, taste, can all be taken in at the same time. That data is also taken in while we are asleep. Our brains are not partitioned like a hard drive. Our touch, taste, smell, sight, and memory portions of our brain still interact while we are asleep, even if we are unaware that is what is going on. We have plenty of brain scan studies that show this to be fact.

All right, so why do you doubt that some people are able to see something that others can't? It's a question of selecting the otherwise ignored brain input. As a child you can be unconditioned, perceiving pretty much everything, but then grownups tell you that spirits don't exist. So you forbid yourself to see them, to avoid ridiculing and anger of parents. In this way, part of conscious visual input is made unconscious. 

I still remember as at one lecture I stared forward on lecturer. And suddenly I noticed, that all people in front of me have auras. It was not retinal fatigue, the auras appeared only around people and not around non-living objects. I wasn't even visually focused at these people.
I made some more experiments with that, and it's more to it than just retinal fatigue. The substance of aura seems to rise from the person by bits and swirl around like smoke. I saw no colors, I'm just a beginner in that.

As for interaction of senses, do you want to say that there is some kind of synaesthesia? I mean, that the data for smell, touch and taste can get somehow subconsciously reformatted as sight or hearing and serve as a source of hallucinations? That doesn't sound very testable.

 

Brian37 wrote:

Luminon it is scientific fact, that even when awake we take in all sorts of data through our conscious input without being aware of it. Colors, smells, temperature, touch, taste, can all be taken in at the same time. That data is also taken in while we are asleep. Our brains are not partitioned like a hard drive. Our touch, taste, smell, sight, and memory portions of our brain still interact while we are asleep, even if we are unaware that is what is going on. We have plenty of brain scan studies that show this to be fact.

All right, so why do you doubt that some people are able to see something that others can't? It's a question of selecting the otherwise ignored brain input. As a child you can be unconditioned, perceiving pretty much everything, but then grownups tell you that spirits don't exist. So you forbid yourself to see them, to avoid ridiculing and anger of parents. In this way, part of conscious visual input is made unconscious. 

I still remember as at one lecture I stared forward on lecturer. And suddenly I noticed, that all people in front of me have auras. It was not retinal fatigue, the auras appeared only around people and not around non-living objects. I wasn't even visually focused at these people.
I made some more experiments with that, and it's more to it than just retinal fatigue. The substance of aura seems to rise from the person by bits and swirl around like smoke. I saw no colors, I'm just a beginner in that.

As for interaction of senses, do you want to say that there is some kind of synaesthesia? I mean, that the data for smell, touch and taste can get somehow subconsciously reformatted as sight or hearing and serve as a source of hallucinations? That doesn't sound very testable.

 

How more simply can I put this.?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GHOSTS, SPIRITS, GODS OR ANY KIND OF DISEMBODIED BEING! THERE ARE NO "AURAS" either. It is merely woo crap that people fall for because they don't understand their own brain or how strong the electro-chemical activity can be. When you combine that with mental defect, delusion with a strong desire to believe crap, people will believe it.

Human psychology explains why people believe stupid shit. If you want to believe the woman was sawed in half, you will believe it.

It is that simple.

Brian37 wrote:

How more simply can I put this.?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GHOSTS, SPIRITS, GODS OR ANY KIND OF DISEMBODIED BEING! THERE ARE NO "AURAS" either. It is merely woo crap that people fall for because they don't understand their own brain or how strong the electro-chemical activity can be. When you combine that with mental defect, delusion with a strong desire to believe crap, people will believe it.

Human psychology explains why people believe stupid shit. If you want to believe the woman was sawed in half, you will believe it.

It is that simple.

Yeah, you're right. If you want to believe, you will believe. But I don't want to believe. Wanting things never got me anywhere or helped me to see anything. All that I ever take seriously came in times when I did not want anything and paid no attention to what I ever wanted. I have been through some really crazy stuff, but without slightest participation on my side. I experienced things that would scare the shit out of you and you'd have a really hard time rationalizing what happened. Hell, even I was scared. But only in retrospective. Initially I was not scared at all, thanks to my bizarre philosophy of reality. 

Don't talk to me about belief or wanting to believe. You may be right with believers, but here you miss the point. There are people who first observe and then believe, not vice versa. Mental defects and delusions are pathologic, but there is far more of woo crap observations than there is psychiatric patients, therefore much of that is not pathologic at all. People like me or Lashonda are the few young or brave or english-speaking ones that have the courage to step out of the closet at least through online anonymity. We aren't trolls, attention cravers, madmen or anything like that. Atheists aren't the only ones who want to get out of the closet with the truth about themselves. We also don't eat babies or poison wells.

There are people who first observe and then believe, not vice versa. Mental defects and delusions are pathologic, but there is far more of woo crap observations than there is ps

I experienced things that would scare the shit out of you and you'd have a really hard time rationalizing what happened.

So what are the chances you're correct? Well, you're claiming something happened for which there is zero scientific evidence.

ABSOLUTELY everyone who reports a sighting either wants attention or is insane.

You want attention, like the majority of people who claim this ... So the only other option is to assume you're a lying little troll.

That's why you built your little scenario with the, "I wasn't the only one who saw it," tag -- so that we can't say, "oh, she's crazy!" What options do we have, then? Either to assume you're lying or correct.

Saying, "lots o ppl hav seen ghosts 2!" doesn't disprove a damn things, because lots of people see Chupcabras, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, Yetis, Vampires, and a dozen other things... So by your logic, all those things must be real too.

If the institute succeeds, its maps will help scientists decipher the function of the thousands of genes that help produce the human brain. (Although the Human Genome Project was completed more than five years ago, scientists still have little idea which genes are used to make the brain, let alone where in the brain they are expressed.) One unexpected—even disheartening—aspect of the Allen Institute's effort is that although its scientists have barely begun their work, early data sets have already demonstrated that the flesh in our head is far more complicated than anyone previously imagined.The brain might look homogenous to the naked eye, but it's actually filled with an array of cell types, each of which expresses a distinct set of genes depending on its precise location. Consider the neocortex, the so-called CPU of the brain: Scientists assumed for decades that most cortical circuits were essentially the same—the brain was supposed to rely on a standard set of microchips, like a typical supercomputer. But the atlas has revealed a startling genetic diversity; different slabs of cortex are defined by entirely different sets of genes. The supercomputer analogy needs to be permanently retired. *Similar to the flat earth theory.*Or look at the hippocampus, the crescent-shaped center of long-term memory. Until recently, this small fold of tissue in the middle of the brain was depicted as neatly divided into four distinct areas. But data from the atlas has rendered the old maps not only obsolete but flat-out misleading. Even a single hippocampal area can actually be subdivided into at least nine discrete regions, each with its own genetic makeup.Scientists at the institute are just starting to grapple with the seemingly infinite regress of the brain, in which every new level of detail reveals yet another level. "You can't help but be intimidated by the complexity of it all," Jones says. "Just when you think you're getting a handle on it, you realize that you haven't even scratched the surface." This is the bleak part of working at the Allen Institute: What you mostly discover is that the mind remains an immense mystery. We don't even know what we don't know.

What a great necropost! That was like 18 months. I don't think the person you're responding to is here anymore though.