Catholicism re: Christianity
Offline I got this off wikipedia and was just wondering if anyone can confirm that this is a catechism of the church or not
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Christianity, for example, has many subsets, not all of which are mutually compatible. For example, Catholic leadership has consistently maintained that only Catholics (and not non-Catholic Christians) will enter heaven."
If this is the case, can someone please show me where I can find this officially in the church teachings. Because census show that:
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1.166 billion Catholics, 2.1billion Christians, 3.8billion Abrahamic religions
This means that only 1.166 of the population go the Heaven? What happens to the followers of Christianity? Do they go to Purgatory or Hell? Please I wish to know this very much!
Thanks in advance,
OhMan.
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I got this off wikipedia and was just wondering if anyone can confirm that this is a catechism of the church or not
"Christianity, for example, has many subsets, not all of which are mutually compatible. For example, Catholic leadership has consistently maintained that only Catholics (and not non-Catholic Christians) will enter heaven."
If this is the case, can someone please show me where I can find this officially in the church teachings. Because census show that:
1.166 billion Catholics, 2.1billion Christians, 3.8billion Abrahamic religions
This means that only 1.166 of the population go the Heaven? What happens to the followers of Christianity? Do they go to Purgatory or Hell? Please I wish to know this very much!
Thanks in advance,
OhMan.
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not all Catholics are Christians [by a long way] according to Biblical definition. Purgatory is a Catholic construct and not Biblical. The Biblical definition of a Christian is one who is indwelt of the Holy Spirit. One becomes "indwelt" by regeneration. Catholic teaching is that regeneration can occur through baptism, which is unbiblical.
'It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip than in the heart of man, than by this: that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted it within themselves and would be glad to be strengthened by the consent of others.' Francis Bacon.
I hate this crap. Catholicism is a sect of Christianity. Jesus is the one true god in Catholicism, it shares that will all other sects of Christianity. Changing the details doesn't make the motif different.
Sunnis and Shiites are both Muslim.
Christopher Hitchens is an atheist. He has the same core lack of belief in god/s as a politically correct "Kumbia" atheist.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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No I am asking this question looking for an answer from a Catholic perspective.
What would a Catholic say happens to the other people? And is this even an official teaching, if so, I would like to see the source.
So, any catholics around??
Thanks.
the catholic church does not view other sects of christianity as having official church status, due to the fact that they do not enjoy the apostolic successions in the sacrament of orders and there for are deprived of constitutive element of the church. As well the absence of the sacramental priesthood and have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the eucharistic mystery and as such cannot be considered as a church.
With that said the schism the occurred and therefore allowed the creation of the protestant churches and various other sects, they are missing out on the many blessing, especially the sacraments, and as well they do not have the teaching magisterium and as such they cannot be trusted to properly interpret the bible nor provide proper guidance in discerning truths of the faith. As such god uses these communities to do his will, but they are not saved at all.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm
"Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
This can be interpreted in various ways, but it certainly accepts the possibility of non-Catholics 'going to heaven'.
It makes sense for a universal church to allow as many into their flock as possible.
how discerning of you Brian
'It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip than in the heart of man, than by this: that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted it within themselves and would be glad to be strengthened by the consent of others.' Francis Bacon.
'It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip than in the heart of man, than by this: that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted it within themselves and would be glad to be strengthened by the consent of others.' Francis Bacon.
except that the Bible does not agree.........a small detail of course.......shame that Bible thing got into the hands of people who don't wear frocks and pointy hats!
'It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip than in the heart of man, than by this: that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted it within themselves and would be glad to be strengthened by the consent of others.' Francis Bacon.
tough cookie OM........everyone else goes to Hell.......trouble is, dig around a bit and they're not too sure they're not going themselves!.........and they're right, since they worship the Queen of Heaven!
'It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip than in the heart of man, than by this: that atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted it within themselves and would be glad to be strengthened by the consent of others.' Francis Bacon.
Heaven and Hell don't actually exist. You know that right?