Why Do This?
I have been a member here for a long time. I stopped posting after a while just cause I got tired of A) Keeping up with a forum and B) The atmosphere. I just decided to check back in and see whats going on. Well, since two years ago it seems like nothing has changed. I highly doubt more than a handful of people have jumped ship in their beliefs about God, I'm fairly sure most of the theists are just coming and going while I still recognize a lost of the atheist posters. So to all my "theists" and atheists I have a question. Why do this whole debate thing?
To my theists: I understand the hope to change a soul, or just say Jesus loves you and hope for the best, or even the simple desire to just prove your right in some way. But honestly, you're going to have much better luck saving souls in Africa than on a forum. It may not have the great convenience of your own air conditioned home, but it you want to do some good in the world the do some good beyond hiding behind a keyboard. I promise you a smile and a kind word to a stranger will do better than arguing microbiology and physical concepts. You're fighting a battle that can not be won. I sat here as a 17 year old kid hoping I could do something to at very least make some one say "that's a good point, I never thought of that". It's not worth the time, frustration, and research required to debate. You will never help anyone find God (whatever God you may believe in) by a debate. That's up to God. And for the love of God, no pun intended, those of you that are rude and mean to the atheists shouldn't even be here to start with. Just the same goes to those who were like me two years ago who had little scientific knowledge and no clue what to say other than "Jesus (or whoever) loves you"...you're shark food here. Stick to church, or synagogue, or whatever and just build each other up. Do missions work where true good deeds will be done, and stay away from negative debate that will just bring you down.
To my atheists: Some of you seem like great people who are intelligent, nice, and genuinely enjoy intellectual conversation. Some of you are as rude and arrogant as the day is long. The same goes for theists. But you guys know that most theists would rather stop coming to this forum than admit defeat. I love an intellectual conversation or debate, as I'm sure most of y'all (excuse my southern roots) do. However, I can't imagine how debating can be much fun after a while considering it always ends in...well, no decision. There's no score keeper so you can think you made the best case and you were right, but since most theists would rather just stop coming than admit defeat, what's the fun? Yea, you can prove you're right in your mind, but what's the fun since the other person hardly (if ever) admits they are wrong? Sure I know that Bob Dylan is the best song writer alive, but what good does it do arguing that with Kanye West? He will never admit that his songs aren't the best. But since this is an atheist forum and not a theist forum I won't even hint that you shouldn't come here. There are tons of theist forums where very little debate about the existence of God happens, it's all debate about doctrine. So the topics about science, specific atheist ideas, and even sports are completely understandable. But what's the fun in playing if the other person either forfeits or says they win? Its like tee ball, each team thinks they won.
I am literally asking the question so I will look for the answers. I am not just trying to convince you all to stop debating. This debate has been going on for thousands of years and if little old me could just convince everyone its pointless then I might be the Antichrist of something. But honestly think about what I said and please tell me why...both theists and atheists. I think I was a little harder on the theists, just because I am one. But to those of you who will inevitably keep the debates rolling I ask that you remember (both theists and atheists alike) the words of Sun Tzu:
If you know your enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
Not to imply that we are enemies, but think tactically about the debate and at least know what the guy you're calling an idiot believes. Theists are the worst about believing common myths and crap about atheists without really knowing the truth, however atheists do their fair share of misunderstanding too.
My Master has no desire to be merely victor in a debate: he did not come into the world to fight a battle of logic just
for the sake of winning it. --Charles Spurgeon