Astronomers' Doubts About The Dark Side : Errors in Big Bang Data Larger than thought

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Astronomers' Doubts About The Dark Side : Errors in Big Bang Data Larger than thought

   I was just checking out " Science Daily " and saw this - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/10061322708.htm


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Dark matter is a fact, it

Dark matter is a fact, it has been proven to exist by observation. As it looks, there is a ghost world alongside this one.

 

So I don't understand why suddenly dark matter is questioned. Does it mean that in astronomy left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing?

Benjamin Creme, SI magazine wrote:
Q. When will humanity recognize the fact of etheric matter?
A. Very soon. Already our scientists - especially those working in the field of astronomy - have become aware of some kind of matter which they do not understand. They know it is there. Their calculations tell them it is there but they cannot see or experiment with it. They call it 'dark matter'. That so-called dark matter is in fact the etheric levels of matter.

Q. When will this take place?
A. If they opened one of the books of the esoteric teachings written by Madam Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Helena Roerich or even myself, and read enough about matter and the state of etheric physical planes they could have the answer in one afternoon. Instead, they build a huge cyclotron which took 25 years to build and cost millions to make in order to prove the reality of dark matter.

Says the man who does NOT support chemtrails and bigfoot, but supports sustainable economy, ecology, science, politics and human rights.

My own investigation gave out a suggestion, that dark matter can be explained in string theory, as equivalent of our matter. It occupies the same dimension, time, and space with us, it's physical. But there is a range in amplitude of the vibrating string. Our dense matter occupies the lower half of this range, the lesser amplitudes, and dark matter's strings reside in higher amplitudes.
As a result, the structure of dark matter is loose. It's atoms bond on much greater distances through bigger electron orbitals and do not bond with more dense, more spatially concentrated atoms and particles of our physical matter. Our matter is not solid, not from the view of majority of the universe, that is composed of cosmic radiation and dark matter.
To get some exact scientific idea, I am pretty sure that this can be easily simulated in computer that has programmed string theory and M-theory. Hell, whole universe can be simulated like that, from elementary particles, through atom-atom interaction, to Big bang simulation.

So where's the problem? Switch on your attention experts, and give some rational response. Usually when I come with something that might be coherent enough to get a point across, it meets with deafening silence. I know there are astronomers on this forum. If you don't know, admit that and forward it to some specialist colleague of yours.

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Ken G. wrote:   I was just

Ken G. wrote:

   I was just checking out " Science Daily " and saw this - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/10061322708.htm

link is broke.

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ubuntuAnyone wrote:Ken G.

ubuntuAnyone wrote:

Ken G. wrote:

   I was just checking out " Science Daily " and saw this - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/10061322708.htm

link is broke.

Try this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100613212708.htm

Lumi, did you retype it? You can't easily lose a character (the "1"  ....06/100613212708.htm if you copy and paste. Just curious. And you should check that the link works after you post it, especially if with such a link with a longish number in it like that.

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Lumi, the tag under the

Lumi, the tag under the video on the source page at http://home.slac.stanford.edu/pressreleases/2006/20060821.htm is

"This simulation shows the separation of dark matter (blue) from luminous matter (red) in the bullet cluster, then rotates the result for a 360-degree view."

At the speed those clusters were moving (10 million mph), it would have taken them 10 million years to travel a distance equivalent to the diameter of one average galaxy, such as ours.

The dark matter was not visible at any wavelength, which is of course why is called 'dark'.

The location of the dark matter was calculated by many measurements:

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The research is based on observations of a remarkable cosmic structure called the bullet cluster. This structure is actually two clusters of galaxies passing through one another. As the two clusters cross at a speed of 10 million miles per hour, the luminous matter in each cluster interacts with the luminous matter in the other cluster and slows down. But the dark matter in each cluster does not interact at all, passing right through without disruption. This difference in interaction causes the dark matter to sail ahead of the luminous matter, separating each cluster into two components: dark matter in the lead and luminous matter lagging behind.

This simulation shows the separation of dark matter (blue) from luminous matter (red) in the bullet cluster, then rotates the result for a 360-degree view. (Visualization courtesy John Wise of the Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology. Also available for download as a QuickTime .mov file (15.3 MB).)

To detect this separation of dark and luminous matter, researchers compared x-ray images of the luminous matter with measurements of the cluster's total mass. To learn the total mass, they took measurements of a phenomenon called gravitational lensing, which occurs when the cluster's gravity distorts light from background galaxies. The greater the distortion, the more massive the cluster.

By measuring these distortions with the Hubble Space Telescope, the Magellan Telescopes and the Very Large Telescope, the team mapped out the location of all the mass in the bullet cluster. They then compared these measurements to x-ray images of the luminous matter taken with the Chandra X-ray Observatory and discovered four separate clumps of matter: two large clumps of dark matter speeding away from the collision, and two smaller clumps of luminous matter trailing in their wake.

The spatial separation of the clumps proves that two types of matter exist, while the extreme difference in their behavior shows the exotic nature of dark matter.

So Dark Matter does not represent some kind of parallel universe, it is part of our universe, has mass, and interacts with ordinary matter gravitationally, just not with photons. 

 

 

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Bob Spence1 wrote : Try This

   Thanks for getting the link ,that I was trying to post. 'It's always something' - Gilda Radner SNL

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Luminon wrote : So where's the problem ?

 Well , I would have to say that the problem is, that when ever there is a paradigm shift in our way of understanding nature it automatically has people that believe in the old ways,trying to convince people that it is the right way of understanding nature.So the problem is that people hang on to what they think they know.

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Ken G. wrote:   Thanks

Ken G. wrote:

   Thanks for getting the link ,that I was trying to post. 'It's always something' - Gilda Radner SNL

Mild woops - I was thinking when I was was typing that post, after tracking down correct link, that it was one of the ones Luminon had posted.

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