I want to punch Todd Friel in the face.

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I want to punch Todd Friel in the face.

I just watched a debate between Eddie Tabash and god soaked idiot evolution denier Todd Friel.  Yes my post title is tongue-in-cheek, but really...does anyone take Friel seriously.  Of course they do.  Millions of North Americans believe EXACTLY what he believes.  It's very very discouraging.

 

Maybe this debate and others like it are old news here, but it was the first time that I saw it - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4774031189077504683#docid=-2508011252905046067

 

Didn't Brian Sapient debate this moron also?  Does anyone have a link to that debate?

 

Thanks for listening to my mini rant.

 

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The title alone made me want

The title alone made me want to punch Todd. I had no Idea who Todd was but I wanted to punch him.

Lol, all creationists need a good sock in the voice box.

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The title made ME want to

The title made ME want to punch him in the face, too.  Laughing out loud

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Lets stick to the verbal

Lets stick to the verbal brawls, believers already have a monopoly on violence. If the worst any human has to worry about is a "fuck you", the world would be a better place.

But yea, I get a postal lip twitch when I hear people claim such absurdities.

But Christianity isn't the only myth who has fans who do and say absurd things.

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I'd much rather get into

I'd much rather get into their heads and unravel the knots right in front of them, where they can't look away or pretend anymore. To tear the bullshit out right in front of their minds eye and see themselves as they have never before been able to. To expose the rot and the waste in such a way that they are forever changed. To see it in their eyes.

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Similarities

There seem to be an awful lot of similarities between atheists and those that are religious.  I am not taking a stand on either side, I am merely point out some interesting correlations.

 

- both have no scientific evidence to conclusively prove their theory, they both only have a belief

- both congregate to share their beliefs (this website versus a church)

- both appear to be violent in their beliefs (see post)

 

If I was to look at it from an analytical point of view, I would have to conclude that atheism is a religion.

 

 

 

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Well, Ikob that would be because

lkobescak wrote:

There seem to be an awful lot of similarities between atheists and those that are religious.  I am not taking a stand on either side, I am merely point out some interesting correlations.

 

- both have no scientific evidence to conclusively prove their theory, they both only have a belief

- both congregate to share their beliefs (this website versus a church)

- both appear to be violent in their beliefs (see post)

 

If I was to look at it from an analytical point of view, I would have to conclude that atheism is a religion.

 

you are not looking at it from an analytical point of view.

 

* For a start there is no proof of any supernatural deity. In light of this it's more than fair to say that evidence suggests there is no god.

* All humans congregate to share their beliefs/interests. I go sailing every wednesday night. Others collect stamps. Are these pastimes religions, too?

* All humans can be violent. And language is ambiguous. The difference is that atheists don't have a doctrine that calls for believers to be killed.

 

 

 

 

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Inver Stone wrote:I just

Inver Stone wrote:

I just watched a debate between Eddie Tabash and god soaked idiot evolution denier Todd Friel.  Yes my post title is tongue-in-cheek, but really...does anyone take Friel seriously.  Of course they do.  Millions of North Americans believe EXACTLY what he believes.  It's very very discouraging.

 

Maybe this debate and others like it are old news here, but it was the first time that I saw it - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4774031189077504683#docid=-2508011252905046067

 

Didn't Brian Sapient debate this moron also?  Does anyone have a link to that debate?

 

Thanks for listening to my mini rant.

 

Inver (relatively new atheist still discovering religious hypocrisy and bullshit) Stone

I concur.

I couldn't find a formal debate between this nut and Brian but, I did find one with Brian and Kirk Cameron. Good job, Brian & Kelly!

ps, Kelly looks fantastic in that dress!

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lkobescak wrote:There seem

lkobescak wrote:

There seem to be an awful lot of similarities between atheists and those that are religious.  I am not taking a stand on either side, I am merely point out some interesting correlations.

- both have no scientific evidence to conclusively prove their theory, they both only have a belief

- both congregate to share their beliefs (this website versus a church)

- both appear to be violent in their beliefs (see post)

If I was to look at it from an analytical point of view, I would have to conclude that atheism is a religion.

You have listed only one  attribute particularly relevant to your claim - the other two are shared by most groups who have a strongly held attitude or interest in common.

No statement or belief about the actual state of reality can be "conclusively proved". Rational belief does NOT require proof, just an adequate estimate of the balance of probabilities.

So even the first statement could be applied to any group with a shared interest or attitude.

One is not "an awful lot". You could just say "both believers and active atheists share an interest in the truth status of the proposition 'there is a God' ", which would be a more accurate way to describe the situation. Many people who qualify as atheists don't particular care, they just don't see any reason or point to the idea of a 'God', so definitely do not fit the other two statements.

Atheists do not share any particular 'positive' belief in something, apart from a belief that our interpretations and understanding of "Life, The Universe, and Everything" should be based on empirical evidence and rational argument as far as possible. This almost inevitably leads to a a lack of belief in any proposition lacking adequate support or justification for it.

So, just another version of particularly lame argument trying to portray atheism as being something like a religion.

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