Theodicy of paradise

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Theodicy of paradise

 

Hello.

 

Some theologians bring the theodicy of paradise to solve the problem of evil (here I deal only with the evil made by Nature -through natural disasters, malformations, diseases,ect..- not the one comitted by humans).

Their argument is as follows:   

 

        (1) This life is short and is just the beginning, because there is another life (hereafter) infinitely much longer and better.

          (2) So, judging what happens during the present life is like judging a book by its cover.

      Indeed, suffering (caused by Nature) in a finite and short life is almost nothing compared to an everlasting state of peace and happiness (paradise) and thus it can be borne.          
 
(3) Therefore, the God of Christianity/Islam is consistent with the concept of perfection and goodness.

 

How could you debunk it?



 

 


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The real evil doesn't begin

The real evil doesn't begin until people go to Hell and start paying infinite punishments for finite crimes. Human beings aren't capable of perpetrating enough evil to warrant even a measely nine hundred quadrillion years in Hell, not to mention an eternity. Hell is more evil than anything that occurs in the world. So the afterlife doesn't solve the problem of evil; it makes it infinitely worse.


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What he said, plus it

What he said, plus it obviously relies on a lot of assumptions about an afterlife and what it entails.

 

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termina wrote:      

termina wrote:

        (1) This life is short and is just the beginning, because there is another life (hereafter) infinitely much longer and better.

Lol, that's a sneaky premise. 

 

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termina wrote: Hello. Some

termina wrote:

 

Hello.

 

Some theologians bring the theodicy of paradise to solve the problem of evil (here I deal only with the evil made by Nature -through natural disasters, malformations, diseases,ect..- not the one comitted by humans).

Their argument is as follows:   

 

        (1) This life is short and is just the beginning, because there is another life (hereafter) infinitely much longer and better.

          (2) So, judging what happens during the present life is like judging a book by its cover.

      Indeed, suffering (caused by Nature) in a finite and short life is almost nothing compared to an everlasting state of peace and happiness (paradise) and thus it can be borne.          
 
(3) Therefore, the God of Christianity/Islam is consistent with the concept of perfection and goodness.

 

How could you debunk it?  

Debunked - If he/she/it were perfect and good then why would he/she/it require worship in the first place or place prerequisites on a creation to gain this 'paradise'? In other words, why force the suffering to gain rewards unseen?

 

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There is no proof of an afterlife

that's infinitely longer or better than this existence and to claim there is such a thing is an assertion based on no proof. If there is some reason the onus is on us to debunk a thing that cannot be shown to be true then some one will have to explain it to me.

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Thanks!So this theodicy

Thanks!

So this theodicy would be a sort of ad hoc hypothesis to explain away evil in the world?