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Hello. My name is Chandler. In the past I have believed plenty of strange things. But lately I have become increasingly skeptical about subjects that might best be labeled "supernatural". Frankly, I do not believe that anything supernatural would be possible, by definition. But more importantly, I no longer have the desire to believe senational things just to make my life more interesting. And I find that this perspective is a lot more coherent and consistent than any of the strange ways that I have looked at things in the past.

I blame a lot of my past sensational belief systems on ego. Frankly, I wanted to apprehend something profound because I thought this made me seem smarter to myself.

And some strange part of me thought that I needed a spiritual worldview, and that it was just a matter of picking one to suit my personal style. This is of course a silly way of looking things, more like playing a role-playing game than living life.

I am now satisfied with things as they are. There does not have to be magic in the world for me to live my life well.


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chndlrjhnsn wrote:I blame a

chndlrjhnsn wrote:

I blame a lot of my past sensational belief systems on ego. Frankly, I wanted to apprehend something profound because I thought this made me seem smarter to myself.

And some strange part of me thought that I needed a spiritual worldview, and that it was just a matter of picking one to suit my personal style. This is of course a silly way of looking things, more like playing a role-playing game than living life.

How can I be both at your computer and typing this at the same time? 

I feel/felt very similar, I just haven't been able to articulate it like that.

 

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chndlrjhnsn wrote:Hello. My

chndlrjhnsn wrote:

Hello. My name is Chandler. In the past I have believed plenty of strange things. But lately I have become increasingly skeptical about subjects that might best be labeled "supernatural". Frankly, I do not believe that anything supernatural would be possible, by definition. But more importantly, I no longer have the desire to believe senational things just to make my life more interesting. And I find that this perspective is a lot more coherent and consistent than any of the strange ways that I have looked at things in the past.

I blame a lot of my past sensational belief systems on ego. Frankly, I wanted to apprehend something profound because I thought this made me seem smarter to myself.

And some strange part of me thought that I needed a spiritual worldview, and that it was just a matter of picking one to suit my personal style. This is of course a silly way of looking things, more like playing a role-playing game than living life.

I am now satisfied with things as they are. There does not have to be magic in the world for me to live my life well.

You blasphemer! Are you telling me I can't fart an invisible Lamborghini out of my ass?

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Welcome to the forum.

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Welcome to the forum!

As one who never really bought into the kookie woo-woo stuff, it's always interesting to hear someone's take on why they believed in the claims. And even better is that you wised up to their bullshit. Welcome aboard and hope to see you in the conversations.

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Welcome to the forum!I'm

Welcome to the forum!
I'm glad you rejected belief. Either you see there are supernatural things and you know, or you don't see them and don't know, or you are not sure. Belief (or active disbelief, for that sake) should be avoided. I know it's cheesy, but being what you really are is the true spirituality Smiling

Can you enlighten us on what some of these things were? Don't worry, we have here people who believed in even more improbable things. You can also say if you're from a religional or hippy family or not, stuff like that.

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Luminon wrote:Welcome to the

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Welcome to the forum!
I'm glad you rejected belief. Either you see there are supernatural things and you know, or you don't see them and don't know, or you are not sure. Belief (or active disbelief, for that sake) should be avoided. I know it's cheesy, but being what you really are is the true spirituality Smiling

Can you enlighten us on what some of these things were? Don't worry, we have here people who believed in even more improbable things. You can also say if you're from a religional or hippy family or not, stuff like that.

I considered myself a Thelemite. I was interested in Aleister Crowley and other kinds of magic and mysticism.


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Brian37 wrote:You

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You blasphemer! Are you telling me I can't fart an invisible Lamborghini out of my ass?

If it gives your life meaning.


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I question.. or don't

I question.. or don't bother questioning things that I can't see or can't be proven. I have read way too much sci-fi and fantasy to actually believe in any of it.

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chndlrjhnsn wrote: I

chndlrjhnsn wrote:

 

I considered myself a Thelemite. I was interested in Aleister Crowley and other kinds of magic and mysticism.

 

perhaps it's only a rumor, but don't most "respected" occultists consider crowley a hack and a publicity whore?  luminon?

 

 

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Welcome! 

Welcome!

 

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iwbiek wrote:chndlrjhnsn

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chndlrjhnsn wrote:
I considered myself a Thelemite. I was interested in Aleister Crowley and other kinds of magic and mysticism.


perhaps it's only a rumor, but don't most "respected" occultists consider crowley a hack and a publicity whore?  luminon?

I never heard of Crowley from other sources than my own searching. To answer your question, in my opinion Aleister Crowley is not a quality source of occult teaching. His Thelema is mixture of occultism and mysticism. Mysticism is necessarily vague, metaphorical and figurative, but occultism should be closer to a clear, scientific-like text. Mixing them is not a good idea for many reasons, first of them being a sensible reading.
AFAIK, Crowley had quite an unusual life, good occultists should have some control over themselves and not be hedonists, bisexuals, drug experimenters, spies, attention cravers, purposedly causing controversion, and so on. There are technical reasons for that, which directly affect quality and precision of text. Conveying spiritual teachings of high quality requires great self-discipline that Crowley obviously didn't have. I don't mind that chndlrjhnsn rejected Thelema.

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