What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?

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What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?

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Welcome. "What are we doing

Welcome.

"What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?"

Uhm, lots of stuff. What are you doing besides asking loaded questions?

"Shall we celebrate Christmas in style?"

Define style, and celebrate, and christmas, so I can avoid assuming what you mean by this.

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Discussing why people

Discussing why people believe silly things (not just God).

Alerting people to when Theists attempt to introduce laws to support their ideas and restrict the freedom of people who don't share their beliefs, and discussing if there is something we can do about it.

Allowing Theists to argue with us and tell us why they believe.

Discussing 'free thought', rationality, reason, science, and similar things which non-believers are definitely more likely to be interested in than more religious people.

Talking about things that may have nothing to do with religion, but which we may share an interest in, like certain categories of movies, books, TV shows etc. Atheists are varied in their interests and tastes, but there still tend to some interests which we are a bit more likely to share than a random selection of the public.

 

 

 

 

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Hello! The purpose of this

Hello!
The purpose of this website is to give a place to hang out for atheists, oppressed by religious surroundings, like their neighbours, family, cats and dogs. Next, it's a great source of information on the origins and practices of Christianity. And finally, besides general chat of like-minded people, it's a way to learn about the other side, for all kinds of people that can behave politely enough.

As I understand what Normal Bob Smith wrote in his article (and I still get more and more respect for that man) the purpose of dialogue between religions and atheism is not to convert each other, though we all want it. This would be a bit unrealistic. But what is realistic and desirable, is to learn about each other enough to co-exist peacefully. Theists should understand, that atheists don't eat babies, so there is no need to oppress them, and atheists... well, there is always a lot to learn.

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You could blow me a kiss Amazonka

 

And make it a big one...

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Awww. Don't be silly,

Awww. Don't be silly, Amazonka.

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BobSpence1 wrote:Alerting

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Alerting people to when Theists attempt to introduce laws to support their ideas and restrict the freedom of people who don't share their beliefs, and discussing if there is something we can do about it.

 

 

I like this part. I thought you were here ACTIVE atheists, but it looks to me that you are no different to other atheists internet communities, only whining about theists, your discussions don't go beyond this forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Amazonka wrote:BobSpence1

Amazonka wrote:

BobSpence1 wrote:

Alerting people to when Theists attempt to introduce laws to support their ideas and restrict the freedom of people who don't share their beliefs, and discussing if there is something we can do about it.

 

 

I like this part. I thought you were here ACTIVE atheists, but it looks to me that you are no different to other atheists internet communities, only whining about theists, your discussions don't go beyond this forum. 

 

Ever heard of the blaspheme challenge? Its still attracting attention and goes well beyond these forums. Also, another thing we like to do is to tell trolls to GTFO, maybe we'll get to do it again some time soon.


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 Ever heard of the

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Ever heard of the blaspheme challenge?

Its still attracting attention and goes well beyond these forums. Also, another thing we like to do is to tell trolls to GTFO, maybe we'll get to do it again some time soon.

No, I have not. Tell me about it.

 

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HI there Amazonka ~ Welcome

HI there Amazonka ~ Welcome !

What are your thoughts when it comes to how "we" should celebrate Christmas?

And when you use 'we' in your only sentence in your original post, are you assuming that *you are one of *us and are you implying *we/us* as a group of ~ Humans, atheists....forum members, friends...should celebrate Christmas in some specific way?

Or as my father would say :  "We? what,  you got a turd in your pocket?"

With regards to the use of the word troll ~ many people with similar content to that of your only post here on these forums end up being the 'dump and run' type of posters ~ hence, troll. But of course, you could just be someone of few words...

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Amazonka wrote:BobSpence1

Amazonka wrote:

BobSpence1 wrote:

Alerting people to when Theists attempt to introduce laws to support their ideas and restrict the freedom of people who don't share their beliefs, and discussing if there is something we can do about it.

I like this part. I thought you were here ACTIVE atheists, but it looks to me that you are no different to other atheists internet communities, only whining about theists, your discussions don't go beyond this forum.

Discussing what we can do about it is NOT "just whining about theists". It is planning what to do about it.

You appear to be determined to stick to your point even when we show the contrary.

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BobSpence1 wrote:Discussing

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Discussing what we can do about it is NOT "just whining about theists". It is planning what to do about it.

You appear to be determined to stick to your point even when we show the contrary.

Yeah, that's what concern trolls do.

 

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Amazonka wrote:What are we

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What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?

 

What are you doing here?

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butterbattle wrote:Amazonka

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Amazonka wrote:
What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?

 

What are you doing here?

 

I am stirring you up, if you have not noticed...

 

I think, we (atheists) should celebrate Christmas with a protest, reminding people what this celebration is about and why religion is evil.

Start with saying Happy New Year instead of Merry Christmas.


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I coined the term "Merry

I coined the term "Merry ChristMyAss because it's just two letters away."  Feel free to use it.  For the last few years I did a ChristMyAss broadcast.  I'm still unsure what my Christmas day schedule is, and my current broadcasting capabilities, but the show is a possibility.  I'll let people know if I'm gonna have one.

 

 

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Amazonka wrote:butterbattle

Amazonka wrote:

butterbattle wrote:

Amazonka wrote:
What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?

 

What are you doing here?

I am stirring you up, if you have not noticed...

That is one of the defining characteristics of a 'troll', as if you didn't know....

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I think, we (atheists) should celebrate Christmas with a protest, reminding people what this celebration is about and why religion is evil.

Start with saying Happy New Year instead of Merry Christmas.

Or a positive celebration emphasizing the original pagan roots of the festival, just to rub their noses in the fact that Jesus has nothing to do with it.

Happy New Year doesn't quite make sense.

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Well... we are just

Well... we are just a couple of weeks away from the year 2010. So I wish you a Happy New Year!

I think it makes a perfect sense. Celebrating Christmas a pagan religion style makes less sense for me - an atheist.


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Amazonka wrote:Well... we

Amazonka wrote:

Well... we are just a couple of weeks away from the year 2010. So I wish you a Happy New Year!

I think it makes a perfect sense. Celebrating Christmas a pagan religion style makes less sense for me - an atheist.

I have no problem adopting a ritual, just treating it as based on a narrative, a myth, and in this case one that is far more fun and interesting to me than the Xian crap. The Greek and Roman gods, the Norse Gods, all much more fun than boring old Jehovah/Yahweh...

New Year's is a separate celebration, no need to mix 'em up.

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Vastet wrote:Welcome. "What

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Welcome. "What are we doing here apart from complaining about how stupid theists are?" Uhm, lots of stuff. What are you doing besides asking loaded questions? "Shall we celebrate Christmas in style?" Define style, and celebrate, and christmas, so I can avoid assuming what you mean by this.

It's a fair question, even beyond just "stirring the pot" (let alone actually hostile trolling). So I do appreciate the activism on this site.

 

I myself try to take on any fine points of rational response to apologetics, beyond all that has been repeated endlessly, on my own webpage: http://www.FoolQuest.com/atheism.htm and I also have an atheist activist petition at: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/surgeon-general-please-break-the-healthcare-deadlock