Trash shows how we are abusing our planet

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Trash shows how we are abusing our planet

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August 09, 2009 Edition 1

 

The sideshow to the recent municipal strikes revealed once more the deep-seated hypocrisy in our consumer society as public condemnation of strike action, which made visible the dark underbelly of our "modern" and "civilised" society, knew no bounds.

I refer to public reaction when faced with rubbish produced in the name of economic growth, prosperity and "sustainable development".

As any cursory observation would show, the "success" of our consumer society is directly related to the amount of waste, rubbish and pollution we produce. We should have sung and danced in the streets to celebrate our "success" story.

Furthermore, the irony in all of this is that much of the reaction to this visible rubbish came from a segment of our society that is directly responsible for more insidious and life-threatening forms of pollution.

I refer here to those who, for example, drive cars, whose homes are designed to use potable water (our most precious resource) to flush away human waste, and whose purchases and investments directly support the petrochemical and agrochemical industries.

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What's worse? Walking down a litter-strewn street or inhaling a cocktail of exhaust fumes, drinking E-coli- "enriched" water or consuming a product whose chemical footprint has created an ecological wasteland?

Ideally, none of the above should be a reality, but the fact that we react to pollution and waste only from an aesthetic perspective says much about the real status of 21st century civilisations.

 

This is a letter From a local newspaper I get, It is refering to recent municipal strikes we have had. Basically the people who collect our rubbish every  week went on strike and marched through Durban really messing the place up with litter.

Basically this all along the path they marched, they empty bins along the side walks etc. (not sure if this is from the recent strike but the result was the same)

 

This is something I have been thinking about, we worry to much about the aesthetic, when it comes to pollution and environmental problems. But The letter says it far better than I ever could....

So what I am really asking is what do you think?

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Watch Environmental hysteria

EDIT: This video was, essentially, one long strawman fallacy where Penn & Teller decide to attack arguments & assertions that are often made at environmental rallies while neglecting to address the actual science. Bullshit indeed.

 

It is an indisputable matter of record that the Amazon rainforest is being rapidly eviscerated, that coral reefs are becoming barren, dead and bleached across the globe and that vast swaths of forest in North America are in the process of being destroyed by pine beetles.

Penn & Teller refuse to touch on those issues. Until they do, their brand of bullshit is not welcome anywhere I moderate. 

 

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Veoh doesn't work in south

Veoh doesn't work in south Africa... that or just not me... i dont know either way i cannot watch it

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 ...How old is that P&T

 ...How old is that P&T episode, out of curiosity? 

I know that Penn & Teller have softened on their stance in this arena in recent years, as more evidence has gathered, but that type of outright... bullpucky, to use Maddow's term, is infuriating.

 

What of the absolutely visually conspicuous evidence of incredible environmental damage like the forests in Banff that are being eaten where they stand by pine beetles? Are you saying that this isn't happening? 

What about bleaching coral reefs? That isn't happening either? It's all just a big optical illusion, is it?

The slash and burn tearing-up of the Amazon? That's just some fabrication? Part of the big Science conspiracy to take away your liberties and vaccinate you against your will no doubt?

 

There really are environmental crisis's. They really do need to be dealt with seriously.

Please don't fucking spread lies about them. 

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Quote:EDIT: This video was,

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EDIT: This video was, essentially, one long strawman fallacy where Penn & Teller decide to attack arguments & assertions that are often made at environmental rallies while neglecting to address the actual science. Bullshit indeed.

 

It is an indisputable matter of record that the Amazon rainforest is being rapidly eviscerated, that coral reefs are becoming barren, dead and bleached across the globe and that vast swaths of forest in North America are in the process of being destroyed by pine beetles.

Penn & Teller refuse to touch on those issues. Until they do, their brand of bullshit is not welcome anywhere I moderate. 

 

Peace.

 

 - Kevin R Brown

 

 

 

 

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As far as I know Penn and

As far as I know Penn and Teller are completely useless when it comes to actual science or facts. They just plain don't check they're facts.

 

Not to say they're not great entertainers but their wrong pretty well ever thing.


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Kevin earns himself a black

Kevin earns himself a black mark for censoring opinions. Guess he's gone from being a dumb shit to being a dumb shit without having self confidence that has to censor those who disagree with his idiocy, even when he's right.

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Vastet wrote:Kevin earns

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Kevin earns himself a black mark for censoring opinions. Guess he's gone from being a dumb shit to being a dumb shit without having self confidence that has to censor those who disagree with his idiocy, even when he's right.

 

OH NOES! I'm on Vastet's blacklist!

 

WHAT AM I GONNA DO NOW???

 

It'd be fucking hilarious to see any journal that you or Cpt Assapple could produce. "OH, GEE WHIZ, THIS STATEMENT IS A TOTAL CROCK OF SHIT... BUT IT'D BE *CENSORSHIP* NOT TO GIVE IT THE SAME DIGNITY AS ANY FACTUAL STATEMENT, SO WE BETTER INCLUDE IT!"

 

Alison: Get fucking bent over a knee. Nothing I said was a lie. Yeah, I censored the old P&T video so it has one less avenue to propagate bad information through. It's on fucking YouTube, so it's not like you can't go and watch it if that's what you really need to hear.

Unlike you & Vastet, I'm not content to just sit on my Goddamn hands and pretend I'm righteous while playing to the PC status quo while things go to Hell in a hand basket. Every liberal or progressive I know right now does the same thing - sit around their house, bitch and moan and write-up blog posts, and pretend like that'll be what makes the difference.

 

Yeah, champ. You go.

That'll really change the world. 


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Kevin "Killer K-Bot" Brown

Kevin "Killer K-Bot" Brown wrote:

Vastet wrote:
Kevin earns himself a black mark for censoring opinions. Guess he's gone from being a dumb shit to being a dumb shit without having self confidence that has to censor those who disagree with his idiocy, even when he's right.

 

OH NOES! I'm on Vastet's blacklist!

 

WHAT AM I GONNA DO NOW???

 

It'd be fucking hilarious to see any journal that you or Cpt Assapple could produce. "OH, GEE WHIZ, THIS STATEMENT IS A TOTAL CROCK OF SHIT... BUT IT'D BE *CENSORSHIP* NOT TO GIVE IT THE SAME DIGNITY AS ANY FACTUAL STATEMENT, SO WE BETTER INCLUDE IT!"

 

Alison: Get fucking bent over a knee. Nothing I said was a lie. Yeah, I censored the old P&T video so it has one less avenue to propagate bad information through. It's on fucking YouTube, so it's not like you can't go and watch it if that's what you really need to hear.

Unlike you & Vastet, I'm not content to just sit on my Goddamn hands and pretend I'm righteous while playing to the PC status quo while things go to Hell in a hand basket. Every liberal or progressive I know right now does the same thing - sit around their house, bitch and moan and write-up blog posts, and pretend like that'll be what makes the difference.

 

Yeah, champ. You go.

That'll really change the world. 

goddamn, just how much trotsky have you gone on to read?  we'll make a leninist out of you yet!

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OH NOES!! I care what a

OH NOES!! I care what a fascist thinks!

Oh.. wait.. no I don't.

"It'd be fucking hilarious to see any journal that you or Cpt Assapple could produce. "

Anything I wrote would automatically be a hundred times better than your drivel.

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I'm confused by this thread...  What just happened?

What I've gathered is Kevin the moderator became Kevin the unverified (which I guess means banned) for editing someone's post... Okay I guess I'm not so confused, it must be the forum software throwing me for a loop.  I mean, the first three posts are made, then the next one by Kevin is made over 2 months later, and if the account Kevin R Brown "moderator" is intact why is the other Kevin account not verified...  I could go on too.  I need some clarification, people!  

 

Also I thought I'd comment that I remember Kevin R Brown as the rather angry guy from back when I first joined on my first account (Religious_Rebel, read my recent intro thread if you're confused) and though I didn't like him much at the time I suppose he too helped me like a lot of others here have.  Just wanted to say that.

 

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 Quote:goddamn, just how

 

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goddamn, just how much trotsky have you gone on to read?  we'll make a leninist out of you yet! 

I think it's safe to say, at this point, 'everything that has been translated into English'.

 

I have to say, the rum goes down smoothly.

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What I've gathered is Kevin the moderator became Kevin the unverified (which I guess means banned) for editing someone's post... Okay I guess I'm not so confused, it must be the forum software throwing me for a loop.  I mean, the first three posts are made, then the next one by Kevin is made over 2 months later, and if the account Kevin R Brown "moderator" is intact why is the other Kevin account not verified...  I could go on too.  I need some clarification, people!

What happened was that I was so doped-up that I forgot my password, so I posted using the Anonymous form. H1N1 infection is the balls, by the by.

Every mod on the mod team (well, everyone that spoke up about it, anyway) vehemently disagrees with what I did. I stand by it, but I'm not much of a team player. In any case, I'm pretty sure my ability to edit posts has been revoked, so it's one less point of contention for the future, anyway.

 

 

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- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940