How do you know your an atheist?

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How do you know your an atheist?

First of all, I'd like to state that I have no idea what I believe in, as far as how we came to be on Earth. I am skeptical on the idea of a creator but it's hard for me to rule it out as an overall possibility.  With that said, what I'm sure of is that the Christian, Muslim and Jewish religions are false and a means of controlling the masses. So is this belief Atheism? If not is there a label for this type of belief?


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Do you have an reason to

Do you have an reason to believe the world requires a creator? Any reason to believe there is a creator other than religious teachings?

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Welcome to the forum.Crowley

Welcome to the forum.

Crowley Factor wrote:
With that said, what I'm sure of is that the Christian, Muslim and Jewish religions are false and a means of controlling the masses. So is this belief Atheism? If not is there a label for this type of belief?

Atheism means you don't believe in God.

There is no label for the specific belief that you outlined, although half of it is included in atheism.

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Well, if you are not currently believing in a god but holding the possibility open should evidence come up, then you are an atheist.

Theism is why we can't have nice things.


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ClockCat wrote:Well, if you

ClockCat wrote:

Well, if you are not currently believing in a god but holding the possibility open should evidence come up, then you are an atheist.

Well, if you are not currently believing in a god but NOT holding the possibility open should evidence come up, then you are an atheist.


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treat2 wrote:
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Well, if you are not currently believing in a god but holding the possibility open should evidence come up, then you are an atheist.

Well, if you are not currently believing in a god but NOT holding the possibility open should evidence come up, then you are an atheist.

 

That too. He said he hard a hard time ruling out the idea entirely though. :3

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I was gonna say if you stick

I was gonna say if you stick out your tongue and it's hairy, then you know....


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Obviously anyone who thinks

Obviously anyone who thinks scientifically and rationally about the world must hold the position that they could be wrong ON ANYTHING. This includes even scientific facts. That being said it is a lot more likely for some things we know to be false to be true than others. For this reason many people call themselves agnostic athesists. This means that you don't know if a god exists but you choose to believe one doesn't based on the lack of evidence (or any other reason you might have).


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Due to lack of evidence, I

Due to lack of evidence, I choose to believe agnostic athesists do not exist.


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treat2 wrote:Due to lack of

treat2 wrote:
Due to lack of evidence, I choose to believe agnostic athesists do not exist.

Funny, I feel the same way about gnostics on both sides of the aisle.

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Is this a trick question?

Is this a trick question?


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You know you're an atheist if the skid marks in your underpants don't look like Jesus.


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Only introspection and

Only introspection and education can properly answer this question. Otherwise the result is tainted.

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Crowley Factor wrote:
First of all, I'd like to state that I have no idea what I believe in, as far as how we came to be on Earth. I am skeptical on the idea of a creator but it's hard for me to rule it out as an overall possibility.

The issue of a creator is not something that needs be ruled out any more than does the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There is no legitimate reason to even consider the possibility without prior physical evidence.

As to how the idea of a creator got started, we have to posit some person or persons long ago and far away who demonstrably had nothing right about the universe or the world or any but the tiniest part of it managed to get this one thing right. That is not a credible assumption.

Crowley Factor wrote:
With that said, what I'm sure of is that the Christian, Muslim and Jewish religions are false and a means of controlling the masses. So is this belief Atheism? If not is there a label for this type of belief?

Religion and theism are separate things. If someone claims there is a creator it makes no difference to anyone. If that person goes beyond that into saying the god demands certain things it is still of no interest. When it goes to "everyone will do those things or else" we have a problem.

Yesterday I posted [FYI] a link to emperor Julian's treatise on the Galileans aka Christians which assumes there are gods and compares his with the Christian god with heavy emphasis on the easy target of the Old Testament. If, as in Rome, advocates of particular religions were to keep their academic and amiable there is no problem with them. If, as in Rome, individuals could flit from religion to religion as freely as American Protestants change denominations without recriminations then still no problem.

Problems arise when religionists extend their ideas by force into the private lives of others or deliberate disrupt the civil order because of their religion.

So what are you? You are you. You like choosing a label for yourself? I suggest there are more rewarding things to do in life than worry about such things. You am what what you am with or without a label and are no changed by choosing a label.

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