Canada's Sad State of Science...

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Canada's Sad State of Science...

Well, it appears that we're learning more and more about the Government every day.  I'll post another on the Evangelical Doug Cryer being appointed to the Immigration and Refugee Board (a conflict of interest considering the gay refugees Canada takes in), but this one is about the Minister of Science.

From The Globe and Mail (full story at that link) here is an excerpt of the beginning...

Canada's science minister, the man at the centre of the controversy over federal funding cuts to researchers, won't say if he believes in evolution.

“I'm not going to answer that question. I am a Christian, and I don't think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate,” Gary Goodyear, the federal Minister of State for Science and Technology, said in an interview with The Globe and Mail.

A funding crunch, exacerbated by cuts in the January budget, has left many senior researchers across the county scrambling to find the money to continue their experiments.

Some have expressed concern that Mr. Goodyear, a chiropractor from Cambridge, Ont., is suspicious of science, perhaps because he is a creationist.

So, we expected the Conservatives to do some really unsurprisingly conservative things.  They've not let us down yet and have been rather a bit tamer than normal, but it seems Harper's Government is ramping it up with these appointments.  To put this in starke contrast to Obama's government, he appointed a Nobel Prize awardee and we appointed a chiropractor.

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Why is it that when the US

Why is it that when the US finally gets a potentially competent administrator, Canada gets the biggest ass since Mulrooney?

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 It's the way of the world.

 It's the way of the world. Just keeping checks and balences. Zimbarbwe takes the first step towards moving past all that bullshit and in south Africa we are about to elect the biggest dooshe (who almost definatly got hiv 3 years ago) in the universe who is likely to cause a hole lot of trouble for us.(seriously worse than John Edward on the dooshe scale). Why you may ask? No clue but keeps things interesting though doesn't it.

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To be 'fair' to Gary

To be 'fair' to Gary Goodyear, he did later clarify that yes, he 'believes in' evolution... though, much to the chagrin of anyone competent watching, he also said that within a context where evolutionary theory was being framed as a religious matter.

 

Well? I told you, didn't I?

 

Harper is every bit as fundamental and ass backward as any YEC. He just doesn't have the evangelical spine to go parading his insanity about.

 

So, now we have someone that appears may very well be scientifically illiterate as our minister of science and a self-professed 'fag hater' as our minister of immigration. Bravo, Canada!

*Hearty applause*

Aren't you all so glad that you towed Stephen's bullshit line about the evil coalition 'undermining our democracy'?

 

Fuck this frozen wasteland shithole of nation. We love to fiercely insist that every citizen just ought to be, "Proud to be Canadian!" (because rabid nationalism is really a trait to be proud of), looking down our noses at Americans for being 'so stupid' even while our backyards fill to capacity with:

A): Slack-jawed assholes who's highest priorities are getting drunk, pissing in snow, seeing how many passing cars they can hit with beer bottles before they sober-up and screaming about how, "The cup needs to come home!"

B): Perpetually inebriated natives who demand ever-increasing amounts of public money to fund their criminal gangs and substance abuse problems. Why spend a few million on research into, say, carbon capture or solar panel technology when we can just fork it over to Chief Blows His Goats so he can buy some coccaine from the west coast, right?

 

I cannot believe that some Americans were actually so desperate to move out of fear over McCain/Palin that they considered becoming residents here, nd I cannot wait until I have the necessary finances to take a year's respite from the cold, stupidity, veiled religious fundamentalism and the Goddamn natives.

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This is one of the reasons I am very glad I recieved all of my scientific training in the US. Even if government funding isn't always readily available, the privately funded (in university) research opportunities are overwhelmingly better.

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    I guess that to us USA citizens,it seems like this religious stupidity has flowed upstream into Canada,Bush would feel right at Home there,but the lawyers in Canada want Bush to be held for War Crimes like torture and black sites where the CIA fly these terrorist.But it won't happen,no country seems to have the gonads to arrest him. "The Age of Unreason" has hit Canada.So you better hold on ! 

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What we really need is a

What we really need is a Barack O'Canada. Someone who can get their party's shit together and run the country right.

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O' natural (nude, eh?)

I like  Obama and I wish him the best; BUT,  he has been on the job for  one day less then two months  so I personaly am going to hold my judgment on "...run the country right. " for just a bit longer.



He is doing better then G.H.Bush; BUT that is not saying a whole lot.  If there is one person who CAN be accused of "...Get their party's  shit together..." it is the  one and only Stephan Harper.  Harper took two different parties and melded them into one party and then led this party into a governing majority. In Canada that means his Conservative Party has more seats in parliment (speaking place) then other partys; That means the Conservatives GOVERN.



Harper heads a MINORITY Government  : After TWO strait elections his party still has less then 50% of the seats.   Close but no cigar;      so to speak. The opposition parties CAN  gang up on him and vote the government out, forceing a new election;  BUT the Liberals, N.D.P. (No Damn Party-- socialist) Bloc Quebecois (Quebec is a seperate COUNTRY)  cannot agree on the most basic of policys and then go to  the voters with a straight face;  that nonsense was tried once and Harper won a second MINORITY government.



Harper will be the prime minister for a few more years;   the Liberals are broke,   The NDP & BQ are simply not viable in Canada and they are broke also (money wise). In Canada  politicians keep their religious beliefs to  themselves,    completly  opposite to their American counterparts.Haveing a religion is detrimental to successs;  don't you Yanks wish you could say that. Asking any politician about their religious beliefs causes immense embarrasment;   as it should.  Accusing the science and technology Minister of being religious   works out to the same as  the  Minister proclaiming   "More money for sciencee!!!!"


 

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           Can a moderator FIX post  #7?      The wide spaces are SUPPOSE  to be seperate paragraphs!!! Please can anyone fix it?????????

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Thomathy wrote:To put this

Thomathy wrote:

To put this in starke contrast to Obama's government, he appointed a Nobel Prize awardee and we appointed a chiropractor.

Wait, is this like 1984, where ministries are the opposite of what they are, like the Ministry of Truth? So we have a witch doctor in charge of Science, and a ... holy shit, I just went down a mental list, and IT IS LIKE 1984.

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I'm about to read that for

I'm about to read that for the first time. Looking forward to it.

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 Just some examples so

 Just some examples so Americans know what I'm talking about:

Ministry of Defense: Peter McKay, sissy douchebag. Roughly the opposite of military.

Ministry of Labour: Rona Ambrose, libertarian. Fuck.

Our Minister of Environment used to work as a lawyer for an oil company. Need I go on?

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Nope, it's 1984, now all we

Nope, it's 1984, now all we need are thought crimes.  'Anyone think of some really good suggestions I can forward to my MP or to a Cabinet member?

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Gary Goodyear is a good

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

Gary Goodyear is a good scientist. Steven Harper is your friend. Doug Cryer keeps your jobs safe from aliens. Peter McKay will defend you from Americans.

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I fixed your post, Jeffrick.

I fixed your post, Jeffrick. In response to it:

 

Stephen Harper des not keep his religion 'to himself'. That's a bad joke.

His political opponents are broke as a result of him passing legislation that has essentially made it illegal for any other party to get income (and then dares to accuse others of undermining democracy).

 

...And how is it a good thing that he liquidated one whole party for personal gain, pray tell?

 

Oh, fuck, nevermind. You never write anything intelligible enough to argue over anyway.

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Quote:Nope, it's 1984, now

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Nope, it's 1984, now all we need are thought crimes.  'Anyone think of some really good suggestions I can forward to my MP or to a Cabinet member?

Well, the most obvious one has already been presented to us:

Thinking we can question the credentials of our leaders. Obviously we need to legislate against that kind of treason ASAP.

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Thanx

Kevin R Brown wrote:

I fixed your post, Jeffrick. In response to it:

 

Stephen Harper des not keep his religion 'to himself'. That's a bad joke.

His political opponents are broke as a result of him passing legislation that has essentially made it illegal for any other party to get income (and then dares to accuse others of undermining democracy).

 

...And how is it a good thing that he liquidated one whole party for personal gain, pray tell?

 

Oh, fuck, nevermind. You never write anything intelligible enough to argue over anyway.

Have fun getting drunk in South America. Let's hope we can win back this cup this year, eh?

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              Thanks for fixing the post Kevin.                 If  Harper wore his religion on his sleave the way American politicos do then the Liberals would be heading a minority government.  Harper and his conservatives know this better then anyone.  The other partys have religious types sitting in parliment also; a fact not one of them waves around in front of Canadian voters because it would be detrimental to winning votes.              The Primier of Ontario never misses mass on Sunday, he holds a Liberal Majority in Canada's largest province. If he bragged about that during the election campaign he would be the leader of the opposition.              Harper took two conservative minded parties and turned them into one party and now he is the Prime Minister of Canada.  His proposal to cut taxpayer funding to  political partys nearly collapsed the government, he withdrew the  proposal,  that is why he is still Prime Minister.               That Kevin is what is called "real politics"  Canada style, eh?                   I have fun getting drunk in South America, I have fun doing lots of things in South America;  so what is with the personal attacks.  I'm guessing the cup you refer to is Lord Stanleys' Cup,  which always looks better in Canada.       edit)  heres another post to fix, sorry gang. 

 

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