Science is wrong all the time.

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Science is wrong all the time.

Ahem.

It appears that Bob Jones University produces textbooks for homeschoolers. Here is an example of why homeschooling is superior to regular old dogma-based schooling:

Biology for Christian Schools wrote:

revealed truth - that which is revealed in scripture, whether or not man has scientifically proved it. If it is in the bible, it is already true.

fallacy - that which contradicts god's revealed truth, no matter how scientific, how commonly believed, or how apparently workable or logical it may seem.

The facepalm was of incredible magnitude.

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 That is one of the most

 That is one of the most offensive things I've ever read.

 

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Okay, to be fair, I may have

Okay, to be fair, I may have gotten the quote wrong. I was working from second-hand sources. Here is the actual quote, from the first page of that book:

Biology for Christian Schools wrote:

   1. "'Whatever the Bible says is so; whatever man says may or may not be so,' is the only [position] a Christian can take. . . ."
   2. "If [scientific] conclusions contradict the Word of God, the conclusions are wrong, no matter how many scientific facts may appear to back them."
   3. "Christians must disregard [scientific hypotheses or theories] that contradict the Bible."

This is quoted from the ruling of Association of Christian Schools International et al. v. Roman Stearns et al, which is still a second-hand source, but hopefully a more-reliable one.

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 link? 

 link?

 

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 link?

Link. It's a PDF, and if I'd read the heading carefully the first time, I would've noticed it was in the "Ruling" section of "Order Denying Plaintiffs' Motion for Summary Judgement and Granting Defendants' Motion for Partial Summary Judgement," and not in the final ruling.

The quote is on page 42 of the PDF.

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nigelTheBold wrote:fallacy -

nigelTheBold wrote:

fallacy - that which contradicts god's revealed truth, no matter how scientific, how commonly believed, or how apparently workable or logical it may seem.

Oh, is that what that word means?

 

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Science vs. Cpt.

 

 

      Is this anything like the evolution that Capt. was "taught" in her religious classes?


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If it is in the Bible, it is

If it is in the Bible, it has negligible truth value, unless backed up by independent credible sources...

The credibility of any religious text is automatically suspect, since the writers are almost certainly committed to the doctrine, and therefore are going to interpret everything to support their beliefs, tending to ignore anything which can't be twisted to fit their strong pre-conceptions of the 'truth'. They won't be consciously lying, they simply won't be able to avoid seeing things this way - it is basic psychology.

So science can at best only approximate the truth, but at least it is an approximation which is progressively refined, whereas it is religious ideas which are always wrong and not open to correction...

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Eh, that sounds like it was

Eh, that sounds like it was taken straight from the science books of my christian science  books. I think it described the study of science as : "The means by which god has revealed his creations to us"

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

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Boon Docks wrote:     

Boon Docks wrote:

      Is this anything like the evolution that Capt. was "taught" in her religious classes?

 

 

Nope, she just took two religious classes, I think one was just an intro religious ed and the other was world religions.

 

I was taught evolution in my Grade 11 biology course though