Gee Whiz... Christians are hypocrites... about porn

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Gee Whiz... Christians are hypocrites... about porn

 A recent economic survey yields relatively reliable evidence that Christians are hypocritical in their denouncement of porn.  The red states with lots of religious people?  Lots of online porn subscriptions.

Personally, my interpretation of this survey is that Christians are typically not smart enough (or brave enough to take the time) to find as much porn as they want for free.

Of note is that not only do Christians consume online porn as much or more than anybody else, but they cram it into six days, preferring not to piss God off as much on Sunday.

Anway, read it for yourself.  It's short, and has some interesting information on the marketing of porn.

 

 

 

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http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/16969

 

and at the topic number.

 

 

 


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 LOL... leave it to

 LOL... leave it to Pineapple to be intimately familiar with every post on porn.

Good job Smiling

 

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Nah, I just read it a couple

Nah, I just read it a couple days ago and saw that your link looked familar.

 

 

 


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... I was just scrolling

... I was just scrolling through the channels when it landed on porn... seriously... I never watch that stuff.  I was just flipping the channels...

 

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I live in small town

I live in small town Oklahoma, it isn't unusual to find a baptist preacher lurking in the back of the local titty bar. It is fun when you do that uncomfortable eye lock thing with them. That is where all of the $1's go after the collection plates are stacked.

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 I remember a few years

 I remember a few years back (well like 10) our local sex toy shop got raided by the vice squad for selling penis like items. Good job using our police to protect us from rubber cocks.


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mr804 wrote: I remember a

mr804 wrote:

 I remember a few years back (well like 10) our local sex toy shop got raided by the vice squad for selling penis like items. Good job using our police to protect us from rubber cocks.

lolwut... IT'S A FREAKING SEX TOY SHOP!!! What did they think was in there?


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*Shrugs* Several shelves of

*Shrugs*

 

Several shelves of clay and some instructions on how to mold a guy out of it?

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Hambydammit wrote:... I was

Hambydammit wrote:

... I was just scrolling through the channels when it landed on porn... seriously... I never watch that stuff.  I was just flipping the channels...

 

 

That actually happened once. Sometimes I leave the TV on when I read and it was late at night on the movie channel and when I looked up........

 

I'll never get pizza delivered again.

 

 

 


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I must agree that Christians

I must agree that Christians make up a large part of pornography viewers. They also make up 51% of divorces in the United States of America. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

 

It is unfortunate, but it is true.

 

However, to tell you the truth, we as believers are not going to be "perfect", we are supposed to seek "blamelessness." We do screw up and we do make mistakes. I know I have.

 

I'm just glad that I have "a high priest" in Heaven who is willing to forgive me and intercede with God on my behalf.

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greek goddess wrote:mr804

greek goddess wrote:

mr804 wrote:

 I remember a few years back (well like 10) our local sex toy shop got raided by the vice squad for selling penis like items. Good job using our police to protect us from rubber cocks.

lolwut... IT'S A FREAKING SEX TOY SHOP!!! What did they think was in there?

LOL.

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 Hidden in the middle of

 Hidden in the middle of the article was this interesting tidbit:

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Canada issued visas to would-be adult entertainers.

Applicants had to demonstrate their skills through, among other visa requirements,

“stage photographs” of their prior work in adult entertainment (BBC, 2004; Struck,

2004). Canada issued 880 such visas in 2003 (Godfrey, 2004).

It seems Montreal is a major porn film center and Canada's government must want to make sure that those cumming their are proficient in cumming.

 

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ThePaladin wrote:I must

ThePaladin wrote:

I must agree that Christians make up a large part of pornography viewers. They also make up 51% of divorces in the United States of America. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

 

It is unfortunate, but it is true.

 

However, to tell you the truth, we as believers are not going to be "perfect", we are supposed to seek "blamelessness." We do screw up and we do make mistakes. I know I have.

 

I'm just glad that I have "a high priest" in Heaven who is willing to forgive me and intercede with God on my behalf.

Now if you could just shorten that response into some sort of catchy phrase.......like say....."christians aren't perfect, just forgiven", we might have something we could all adhere to our bumpers.

No seriously, I'm sick as I can possibly be of these types of lame excuses in the face of repeated hypocrisy played over and over and over..like a record player.. Remember those ?

You want absolution for lying, for cheating, for stealing, for fornication, for child molestation, for centuries of bloody violence, etc. and your ideology comes ready made (by design of course) to provide you with this absolution.  

You want to make everyone's lives miserable by forcing your fictional ideology and its narrow minded confines down their throats while never having to adhere to these confines yourself because you can always respond w/ crap like...."well, we're not perfect". 

That's just beautiful !  You can always count on the christian being the most morally corrupt person in the room.

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:Nah, I

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Nah, I just read it a couple days ago and saw that your link looked familar.

 

 

 

Don't lie Piney, you have your hand you your "mouse" when you arn't posting here. It's ok, unlike Christians, we don't think spanking one's monkey will make you go blind.

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you know... that study

you know... that study looked at people who *paid* for porn... perhaps we look at it just as much. and by "we" i mean pineapple.


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 Quote:I must agree that

 

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I must agree that Christians make up a large part of pornography viewers. They also make up 51% of divorces in the United States of America. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

 

It is unfortunate, but it is true.

 

However, to tell you the truth, we as believers are not going to be "perfect", we are supposed to seek "blamelessness." We do screw up and we do make mistakes. I know I have.

 

I'm just glad that I have "a high priest" in Heaven who is willing to forgive me and intercede with God on my behalf.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, straight from the Christian's mouth, exactly why Christianity is so hideously dangerous.  While you and I, fellow atheists, strive to make this one and only existence as good as it can be, while being as good as we can -- since it really is our only chance to do good -- Christians blithefully toss aside responsibility for their own actions.  Their invisible high priest will wave a magic wand, and it's all ok.  Since the invisible high priest holds them "blameless" they are free of their duty to their fellow man.  After all, their fellow man doesn't matter... getting to heaven matters.  Being right with God is what matters, and if it being right with God happens to coincide with being right with your fellow man, so be it, but if fellow man and God happen to contradict one another, guess who wins...

By the way, Pineapple, before you rush in to object that I'm contradicting myself since I defend pornography in many cases as being healthy, let me stop you here.  Christians believe pornography is evil, and they admonish one another to stay away from it.  For all intents and purposes, in their worldview, it is evil.  Their attitude towards porn is reflective of their attitude towards any evil, despite the fact that according to some, they are mistaken about the actual value of porn.

Once again, the Christian has told us, in his own word, that it's a little sad that Christians are more evil than atheists but it's ok, because God doesn't blame them -- because they believe he doesn't blame them.  If that isn't sloughing off responsibility, then there's no such thing.

 

 

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 Quote:you know... that

 

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you know... that study looked at people who *paid* for porn... perhaps we look at it just as much. and by "we" i mean pineapple.

Yep.  I think, Shelley, that paid porn sites offer more anonymity, curiously enough.  Finding worthwhile free porn takes time and devoted effort.  It also leaves lots of history on the computer.  One discreet and innocuous bill on the credit card statement, and one domain to delete from the history, and Christians can watch all the porn they want without worrying that their computer is full of links and temp files.   For us atheists who happen to think porn is ok, who cares?

 

 

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What do you suppose are the

What do you suppose are the odds that ThePalladin  (our shining light) will show up and respond to either my post or Hambydammits ?  

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Hambydammit wrote:By the

{Edit on second thought, never mind not worth it.}


 

 

 

 

 


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Oh and you guys seem to

Oh and you guys seem to think of me like this:

 

 

 

In your fucking dreams, and that's all I'm going to say about that.

 

 

Oh and try not to take the "in your fucking dreams" part literally.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Well, actually, I've always

Well, actually, I've always thought of you as one of those hyper-negative and obnoxious girls (well, initially a guy, to get technical) who ranks a good 7-9 or so on the Goodyear scale.

 

Hamby tends to be pretty insistent that this isn't the case - but, to be fair, I'm not sure he's as familiar with loafer deadbeats from Eastern Canada as I am. Smiling

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And that's all I'm going to

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

 

 

 

 


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 I find it amusing that those who could care less about Biblical truth-- that is they never attempt to come to any real understanding of Holy Writ-- are so swift to kick those of us who are trying to come to a real, living understanding of it in the butt for trying to teach at least what we have learned. What is amusing is that they resort to becoming equally as judgmental against those of us they are accusing of being judgmental. Case in point, Christians make claims, offer opinions, make moral determinations, etc., based on the claims they've learned by the absolute authority of truth, God himself. In fact, even the statement that God is the absolute authority for truth is learned from Holy Scripture. So, the Christian appeals to the authority of God, which the Bible is claimed (as we learn also from the Word) to be His Word. Yet by what authority does the atheist come, arguing, as they do, that Christians are wrong in what Christians claim? Do they have a standard by which they can measure, with absolute certainty their cry of "foul?" If so, what is their authority...they have none. Yet, they must have an authority for their argument against Christian thought to carry any weight. But, they don't. In other words, to help the simple minded understand what I am talking about, Christians understand when a line is crooked by understanding what a straight line is. The definition of a straight line, then, is likened to the biblical text calling a certain behavior "wrong" as we would call a crooked line crooked. How? Well, for we have come to an understanding of a moral absolute as does an artist comes to an understanding of a straight line  and a crooked line. 

Now, what needs to be done here is to challenge those who would argue that pornography is fine and dandy to prove to the rest of us, with absolute assurance and with absolute certainty, by what authority gives them such an opinion. But what authority can their claim that pornography is good over rid the clear biblical teaching that it is wrong? In better terms, how can the atheist be absolutely certain that the Christian's claim that porn is a crooked line (sinful) is wrong and that porn is a actually straight line (morally good)? By what authority do they have to change the definition of a straight line into a crooked line, and then what is the name of the actual crooked line, "straight?" So are all those who do not look up porn, who do not participate in anything "crooked" the crooked ones? Are we now all "immoral" and the immoral people moral? The definition of pornography comes from the Greek, Pornea (filthy) and graphia (writing). Hence, is what the Bible calls "filthy" actually clean? Okay, by what authority does the atheist make his appeal? If he has no authority higher than God, then the atheist better learn to keep his big fat, filthy, crooked mouth shut...for he will be forced to eventually once he stands face to face with the absolute authority one day.


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Waltherppk007 wrote:Now,

Waltherppk007 wrote:

Now, what needs to be done here is to challenge those who would argue that pornography is fine and dandy to prove to the rest of us, with absolute assurance and with absolute certainty, by what authority gives them such an opinion. But what authority can their claim that pornography is good over rid the clear biblical teaching that it is wrong? In better terms, how can the atheist be absolutely certain that the Christian's claim that porn is a crooked line (sinful) is wrong and that porn is a actually straight line (morally good)? By what authority do they have to change the definition of a straight line into a crooked line, and then what is the name of the actual crooked line, "straight?" So are all those who do not look up porn, who do not participate in anything "crooked" the crooked ones? Are we now all "immoral" and the immoral people moral? The definition of pornography comes from the Greek, Pornea (filthy) and graphia (writing). Hence, is what the Bible calls "filthy" actually clean? Okay, by what authority does the atheist make his appeal? If he has no authority higher than God, then the atheist better learn to keep his big fat, filthy, crooked mouth shut...for he will be forced to eventually once he stands face to face with the absolute authority one day.

 

Why are you hung up on pornography?  Who cares?

Consenting.  Adults.  Everyone has fun.  None of my business - nor yours, either.

Note the word consenting.  That means bestiality is out since animals are incapable of consent.  Note the word adult.  That means children are out since they are not adults either physically or emotionally.  Note the word fun.  You might try it sometime.

 

FYI: I really am a 60 year old woman, three grown sons, a grandson, and happily married for 26 years (it's my second husband).  AND I am an atheist.

If going to heaven means hanging with christians for eternity, I'll take hell, thank you.

 

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A wall of irrelevant text

A wall of irrelevant text fails to be logical enough to respond to, and nothing happened. Try learning ACTUAL English, not bible-babble, before trying to make an argument.

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cj wrote:
Consenting.  Adults.  Everyone has fun.  None of my business - nor yours, either.

Note the word consenting.  That means bestiality is out since animals are incapable of consent.  Note the word adult.  That means children are out since they are not adults either physically or emotionally.  Note the word fun.  You might try it sometime.

I don't want to be pedantic, nor I want to be a fussy, but pornography is work. Also I find pornography I don't know... stupid? Why would someone watch sexually engaging people?

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Actually Walther, most of us

Actually Walther, most of us kick you in the butt because you settled for what the Bible says instead of coming to a real understanding about anything.

That's why you succumb to circular reasoning, contradictory arguments and incorrect information.

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luca wrote:I don't want to

luca wrote:

I don't want to be pedantic, nor I want to be a fussy, but pornography is work. Also I find pornography I don't know... stupid? Why would someone watch sexually engaging people?

 

I have no idea why.  Doesn't appeal to me, either.  But it is not my place to dictate to other people what they should be doing for fun or not.

 

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