Could the bible be true?… If read properly.

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Could the bible be true?… If read properly.

One of the main defenses that a religious person will make when the bible is challenged is that the book is written metaphorically. A counter argument I like to make is if the bible is metaphor then why can’t “god” be a metaphor? I will use the example of “Mother Nature”, people often refer to Mother Nature but no one I’ve ever met actually thinks of Mother Nature as an actual walking talking being. Now if the term “God” was simply just another metaphor for nature, then it might actually add some truth to the bible. For instance the story of Adam and Eve… Adam was created from mud and Eve from his rib. Could that be metaphor for the beginning of life where the first life form came from the elements and then reproduced by splitting to create the next. So the story of Adam and Eve could be metaphor for the spawning of the first unicellular life form, which reproduces by dividing? The Garden of Eden could have simply been the spawning ground where all the conditions were right. If the term “God” were just another term for the elements then the statement that God has always been and always will be, would have some truth to it. The elements did create the Earth, the oceans and everything else that the universe provides. Granted it took a bit longer than a week, but we’re talking metaphor here... Just a random thought, what do you guys think?


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Hmm..  Where's the metaphor

Hmm..  Where's the metaphor that represents all of the dead people that were killed at the request of, or in the name of...god ?

Explain the dead people !

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AmericanIdle wrote:Hmm.. 

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Hmm..  Where's the metaphor that represents all of the dead people that were killed at the request of, or in the name of...god ?

Explain the dead people !

 

 

No no no... George Bush comes way after the bible. But there were plenty of angry volcanos back then that ate people.

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 It could also explain the

 It could also explain the flood. I can't wait to see the angry NO NO NO posts some theists are gonna reply, you dirty non-believer!!


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Did you guys know that Jesus

Did you guys know that Jesus was actually an identical twin? His twin brother, Easter, lived a few hundred miles north where he worked as a ranch hand. When word got to him that Jesus was going to be crucified, he jumped on his donkey and raced down to be with him. Unfortunately, he was three days late.

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Ivon wrote:Unfortunately, he

Ivon wrote:
Unfortunately, he was three days late.

Oh, that was terrible. Just terrible. (In a good way.)

As for your first question, can't anything be taken as a metaphor?

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HisWillness wrote:As for

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As for your first question, can't anything be taken as a metaphor?

 

That's actually the point I was trying to make, if the bible is written in metaphor, why can't God also be merely a metaphor? Sure it's written that he spoke to people, but we have people today that say they speak to nature. I myself have been known to yell at my car, my television and various lottery machines. Everyone has occasions where they talk to nonliving things as if they were living, but no one actually believes those things can actually listen to you. If I wrote a book, could it be picked up 2,000 years in the future and actually create a cult following where people believe that in ancient times, the mighty god known as 'Lottery' gave riches to those most worthy and inflicted suffering to those who sinned?

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Here's what bothers me:

Here's what bothers me: metaphor or no metaphor, it is mostly a work of fiction. Trying to make a case for the Bible holding metaphorical truths is about as pointless as trying to make a case for any other fictional story. Not that historians are wrong for researching and interpreting, but the whole "is it true?" question is needless.

Not that it lacks literary merit. Plenty of concepts/phrases have "come out" of the many versions of the Bible.

*Our world is far more complex than the rigid structure we want to assign to it, and we will probably never fully understand it.*

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Ivon wrote:Did you guys know

Ivon wrote:

Did you guys know that Jesus was actually an identical twin? His twin brother, Easter, lived a few hundred miles north where he worked as a ranch hand. When word got to him that Jesus was going to be crucified, he jumped on his donkey and raced down to be with him. Unfortunately, he was three days late.

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Quote: why can't God also be

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why can't God also be merely a metaphor

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peppermint wrote:Here's what

peppermint wrote:

Here's what bothers me: metaphor or no metaphor, it is mostly a work of fiction. Trying to make a case for the Bible holding metaphorical truths is about as pointless as trying to make a case for any other fictional story. Not that historians are wrong for researching and interpreting, but the whole "is it true?" question is needless.

Not that it lacks literary merit. Plenty of concepts/phrases have "come out" of the many versions of the Bible.

Is it a work of fiction or intended to be a work of fiction? Couldn't it have simply been the writings of people trying to explain the world as they understood it? If I had no concept of science, I might think that a simple chemical reaction were magic or a strange animal skeleton might be a demon. I used to have a dinosaur book as a child that showed a t-rex walking upright, dragging it's tail. We now know that such an image is a misrepresentation, but it wouldn't mean that the book was a work of fiction, just how people understood it at the time.

Now if there were a group of people that tried to use that 30 year old book to disprove more modern science, I would definitely consider those people to be idiots.

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