God of the Gaps
This is from my new blog (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link). Enjoy:
I've been arguing with some rather moronic Young Earth Creationists lately (like there is any other kind). They ask a question about evolution that they think will stump me, I do about two minutes of research on Google or Jstore and come back with an answer, and then they either redefine the question or just start in on new 'holes' in evolution. It's classic 'God of the Gaps' nonsense, so I finally decided to try and explain to them why their argument fails so fucking hard. The (somewhat modified) post is below:
And again, you are using the foolish 'god of the gaps' argument. Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean the default answer is OMG GOD DID IT!!
If we used that logic, science would never progress and you would still think disease was caused by demons. Do you believe that all disease is caused by demons?
YEC's continually provide supposed 'holes' in the theory of evolution that even a few minutes of research will show you have been answered dozens, hundreds or even thousands of times. The only thing you are proving is that you are willfully and intentionally ignorant about the actual science of evolution. At the same time creationists manage to claim that the bible is, in fact, a scientifically accurate book (even the MOST accurate book!!).
Well, as long as we are on the subject of 'Scientific' knowledge in the bible, there are a few matter I am curious about.
Is the earth round or flat?
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH
I'm curious. Where, exactly, can you see the ENDS of ALL the earth if it is round?
And on a similar note, does the sun go around the earth, or does the earth revolve around the sun?
1 Chronicles 16:30: He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.
Psalm 104:5: Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.
Lets move on to Biology.
Do serpents eat dust, or other animals?
Genesis 3:14: And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life
Are bats birds, or mammals?
See Leviticus 11:13-19 and Deuteronomy 14:11-18
How about medicine?
When you are sick, do you go to a doctor, or the church?
James 5:14-15: Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, it shall be forgiven him.
Is space a vacuum, or is it filled with water being held out by 'the firmament'?
Genesis 1:6-7: "And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.
God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good."
And for that matter, we can now see light traveling from distant stars that MUST have been in transit for billions of years. Can you explain why God went to the trouble of creating the universe with the appearance of great antiquity if it is in fact less than 10,000 years old?
These aren't rhetorical questions.
I'm genuinely interested if we have anyone here who claims all of the following:
The earth is flat
The earth is fixed and immovable with a set foundation
Serpents eat dust
Bats are birds
Disease should only be treated with prayer
Outer space is filled with water held out by the firmament
God made the light from distant stars to appear as if it was billions of years old
evolution is false
If you only believe one or two of these, please justify your answer, either scientifically or biblically.