Atheists eating babies. For real
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Atheists eating babies. For real
What can I say?
My friends and I decided to add a teeny, tiny nugget of truth to the silly notion that atheists eat babies, by eating balut -aborted duck fetus.
http://www.ziztur.com/2008/11/baby-eating-atheists.html
The moral debate we spawned is quite interesting. If you're vegetarian, than you probably think it's wrong to eat the flesh of other animals, including aborted duck fetus. If you're not, you might think it is a little gross, but no more immoral than an egg or an adult chicken. Why then, are people (well, Westerners) extra-repulsed by eating a fetus?
Your resident OTD/S, Christina
A good scientist will always change her mind if new evidence is presented which gives her sufficient reason to change it.
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Gee thanks. Now I'm jealous and hungry.
One question... which wine goes best with balut?
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I have no idea - phillipino's say to eat it with beer - but none of us drink beer, so we had it with Mountain Dew.
Your resident OTD/S, Christina
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"There is something primal about being this close to your food, holding the warm but lifeless body of another animal in your hand, ready to eat it. It's a far cry from the supermarket hamburger culture we're accustomed to. "
I agree.
I was born in Chile (although I've lived in the U.S. for thirty plus years) and one of the things they eat a lot of is raw sea urchin with lemon or vinegar. Sometimes when you are opening them they will have a parasitic soft shell crab inside that runs like hell when it sees daylight. Everybody dives for it when this happens 'cause it's considered good luck(or so they told ME). I was given the honor of eating it and I have to say it's the most amazing experience when something is actively trying to get out of your mouth while you chew it.
It tasted like ice cold salt water.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
Was it chewy/spongy at all? I personally don't like that kind of texture.
They agree, I'm sure.
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
More Taboo Foods
Cow Stomach Soup (Sicily), Lamb tongue and eyes (Morocco), Stuffed pancreas (Morocco), Grasshopper pizza (Mexico), Mosquito eggs (Mexico), Jellied moose nose (Alaska), Yak penis (China), Grilled puffin (Iceland), Braided intestines (Chile), Bull testicles (Spain), Beef Stomach & Intestine Soup (Thailand), Beaver chili (Maine), Crepe with chicken & onion (Ethiopia)
If you think about anything we eat and what it's made of, you realize that EVERYTHING is somewhat weird.
*Our world is far more complex than the rigid structure we want to assign to it, and we will probably never fully understand it.*
"Those believers who are sophisticated enough to understand the paradox have found exciting ways to bend logic into pretzel shapes in order to defend the indefensible." - Hamby
OM NOM NOM NOM! HA!
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
In Chile they also braid the spinal cords of cows....(pryons, anyone?).
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
All you have to do is imagine what is in hot dogs.
Tastes like chicken !!!
Tsk. Tsk. Always playing with your food.
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Any sort of internal organ is out for me.
I'm also a fan of bovine hepatic tissue with onions.
I've tried bovine myocardial tissue, which was too tough for me. I found thier brain tissue to be... odd. Their myolingual tissue, if properly prepared, is tasty (hee hee!).
Frankly the idea of eating those duck embryos fascinates me. Though I get the feeling they wouldn't end up on my grocery lists, I'd still like to have the experience.
Mmmm. Yay food subjects.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
I meant what is typically meant by "organs. "
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
I think i'd try those, everything else on the list... not even for all the babies in the world
What Would Kharn Do?
I have absolutely no moral objection to this whatsoever... if you all want to eat fetuses or whatever, fine - just make sure there's some salt left over in the shaker when you're done.
However, I must admit it totally grosses me out. Seriously I don't even think I could get that down much less swallow that crap. Am I the only one that feels this way?
Probably, Shelly. Which is why you're not a true atheist.
That's how I feel. Of course from what I've heard from you Shelley, you seem EXTREMELY squeamish to me. I might try the beaver chilli but no bugs or any of that shit for me.
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Grass hoppers and meal worms taste like whatever you cook them in. In both cases for me it happened to be old bay.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
Thank goodness someone is more courageous to admit something than I am. lol.
I was raised by a WW2 marine and an Alaskan tour guide. If I never have to eat another bug it will be too soon. Fucking mealworm bit my tongue.
Everything but insects and their larva is edible to me.
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Yes, Matt - I do have a weak stomach. However this idea of eating fetuses of any animal is a little over the top for me so I'm surprised so many people sound like they'd like to supersize their burger with a side of unborn whatever.
Friendly Atheist blogged the other day with a link to the OP's blog here... he asked something along the lines of how you equated being pro-choice with a disturbance with this "menu." I don't think the two issues are related.
I probably wouldn't only because of the internal organs part of it.
I have to agree with what he said - someone could be pro-life and be OK with this (animals aren't humans) or pro-choice and even morally against it (killing animals for food is wrong and the mother animal didn't have a choice in the matter. ) Regardless of someones moral stance on the issue they could still find the idea gross.
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So Matt, I couldn't interest you in some Haggis then?
Wikipedia (being accurate): sheep's 'pluck' (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally boiled in the animal's stomach for approximately three hours.
Fantastic.
M
Forget Jesus, the stars died so that you could be here
- Lawrence Krauss
Fuck that shit, I know what that is. Even liver I won't eat. Though I did like pig's stomach and chicken hearts and gizzards when I had them. Both are local Pennsylvania Dutch specialties. (PA Dutch are descendants of Germans who came to PA area in 17th century including the Amish and most Mennonites. )
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Yes, fucking mealworms...
Speaking of bugs; Aren't crabs and lobsters just giant tasty bugs of the sea?
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
But the worst Sicilian food I can (barely) think about is a cheese with living worms. No kidding.
I have a phobia of worms, they're an object of unspeakable disgust and horror to me, and a murderous hate to a person who would purposely put them into my shoes, food, bed, or direct sight. Surprisingly, I remember not having this phobia when I was a child.
Most of locally known food, like a pig brain on the onion, and the most of inner/outer organs, are also not for me... Maybe I will become a vegetarian one day, because dissecting away all the pieces I don't like in an average baked chicken is a bit too much for what I want from a meal. The food is like a Nietzsche's chasm. As you stare at the food, the food stares back at you, and if you eat it, then into you!
When it would be up to me, (which hopefully will be, when I move out of where I live) I will forget all the gross recipes and live mainly of these Indian, Chinese and Arabian foods which will not stare back at me. You know, rice, rice, rice, curry of various kinds, garam masala spices, vegetables, and so on, not necessarily vegetarian, but faceless.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
It wasn't really chewy, The yolk part had the texture of a slightly stiff scrambled eggs. The white was pretty tough and chewy, but tasted like regular egg white. I read that some Phillipinos discard the egg white part so after we tasted it, we let the dog have it. The fetus itself had the texture of dark meat, with little soft bones. To me it tasted strongly of duck.
We also had a chicken balut egg which I ate, and it tasted like chicken. The yolk was the texture of a typical boiled egg yolk, so I wonder if the genetic differences account for the difference in stiffness of the egg whites. The shell was also a lot easier to gt off the chicken egg, while the duck shell was thicker and harder.
Of course, why wouldn't duck fetus taste like duck and chicken fetus taste like chicken?
I am totally American but I will absolutely eat anything as long as someone, somewhere, considers it food and I know it won't poison me. I don't LIKE everything I eat, but I have no problem trying it. I'd actually like to get some more balut eggs and see what happens if I crack them open over a skillet instead of hard-boil them.
Your resident OTD/S, Christina
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I don't like eggs period. I gag if I'm in the same room they are cooking. Even as a small child I couldn't stand the taste or smell.
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thank god i'm a cancer. ba-da-ba.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
this reminds me of our yearly traditional slovak hog-killing here in the village. we buy half a pig and add in very sharp knives and plenty of alcohol. fun for all! my favorite part has to be removing the jaw from the head with a hammer and chisel. seriously, i get a big kick out of it. by the end of the afternoon, the huge cutting board is slick with a coating of fat an eighth of an inch thick, and most of the organs are boiling in a huge cauldron.
then we move into the garage for the sausage making. this is my favorite time of the day: sampling each organ before it goes into the grinder. my favorite sausage is jaternica, which is basically cooked blood, brains, and other delicacies mixed with rice and blackened onions in intestinal casings. it's absolutely heavenly to make and eat, fresh and crispy out of the oven.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Disgusting, it's stuff like this that makes me a vegetarian. Not that I'm against other people eating but ugh, I just can't stand to look at it.
[double post]
isn't that how bruce banner became the incredible hulk? if so, set me up! i mean, just imagine how big that guy's wiener is!
keep imagining...
keeeeep imagining...
straight yet? what about bi? bi's good. bi's better actually...
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
You mentioned jaternica, but there is also hurka (in singular) a.k.a. jelito, the blood sausage. There surely must be a tasty moments like taking away a whole pot of the blood for the blood sausage, which must be kept warm and moving, to not get clotted. Also, a removal of the intestinal content - excrements and tapeworms - must be a very intereresting sight, when you think about moving a filling in there instead and eating it afterwards. My brother was on a hog-killing once and he told me that the tapeworm was let out and it slithered away on a field and there it froze to death. I think he was pulling my leg, because the creature probably doesn't have any motoric abilities. I won't check it on Wikipedia, I'm afraid there might be some photos to haunt me whenever I close my eyes.
Nonetheless, I don't think this is any barbaric thing, it's a traditional, small-scale practice. Much worse are, I think, the mass 'industrial' breeding of animals. If the hog-killing seems like a gross orgy of blood and meat, then know that the people traditionally had no other means to get the pork, they normally ate meals of milk, grains, potatoes and cabbage, and the annual hog-killing was thus a reason to celebrate. Also, all the hog was used, nothing was thrown away, and it was identic with what we call today a biofarm breedings.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Eww.
1) It's a penis. EWW!
2) It's a green penis! EWW EWW EWW!
I used to have bi tendancies, now I don't.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
well, i don't know what we're "supposed" to do, but what we do is buy half a hog that was just slaughtered that morning, sawed in half lengthwise, and the bristles already burnt off. it's pretty common in the villages nowadays, since most people have neither the time nor space to keep a hog, but still would like to save some money by doing their own butchering. plus, both i and my father-in-law are too soft-hearted to actually kill the hog. once it's half a carcass, though, we have no problems.
my mother-in-law typically handles and boils the blood, so i have no contact with that.
it's also my mother-in-law who boils the intestines for making the jaternica (here in eastern slovakia we call it majos), so i don't really see those either until they're ready to be filled. of course, the entrails, as well as the other organs, are removed before the hog is sawed in half, and it's my understanding that they've already been cleaned. i'm well aware of what was once in them, but it doesn't bother me, especially since they're thoroughly boiled before being filled.
mass breeding for consumption doesn't bother me either, as long as the animals don't suffer unnecessarily (i.e., unnecessary to obtaining the desired product). my family raised beef cattle for generations and my father is an avid hunter. i'm pretty food chain-oriented and unapologetic about it.
that's exactly what it seems like and that's exactly why i enjoy it.
that's still pretty much what we eat here in the village: bryndzove halusky, halusky s kapustov, halusky s tvarohom, zemiakove placky, spisske pirohy, dukatove buchticky, and, on special occassions, ceske buchty or buchty na pare. meat is almost always only on sundays, and often we still eat leftover food from sunday dinner on monday and tuesday.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
aw shit, i never will learn when to keep my fuckin' mouth shut.
just what is a "bi tendency"? is that when you only go as far as handjobs, or what?
btw, when i read your "EWW"'s, i heard them in glen quagmire's voice.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
that's actually what i figured. so it's purely on the mental level? (this is me being genuinely curious now, not me still trying to be a dickwad.
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"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Ugggh I hated that Daria show (though I loved Beavis and Butthead. ) I was of the opinion that Daria should have had an entire bottle of Prozac dumped down her throat and then she'd jump around singing the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song from Ren & Stimpy.
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"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Dinner is served !
I was in college when it was on and me and my friends used to imitate them. I can do either voice pretty good - my parody of "Wind Beneath My Wings" = "Wind in my Bunghole" in Beavis' voice:
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