Bush's address to the nation tonight

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Bush's address to the nation tonight

I don't care how Bush spins this or anyone else.  Why is it that when people purpose using large sums of money to create health care and other benefits for citizens and children it is socialism. Now, tonight, when Wall Street crashes and Bush purposes we do the same freaking thing but instead of health care, education, or anything else we use it to bail out these companies ,it is not socialism?

 

I don't want the economy to suffer from these companies. But, I mean come on, Democrats have always admitted that they want to use the government as a tool for change. Republicans want the government to never step in and let the market work itself out. Yet, now they are claiming it is time for the government to help.

 

Why is this justifiable?

 

Government money for health care, education, ect = Wicked Socialism (ohhhhh be afraid)

 

Government money to bail out bad companies does not = Wicked Socialism????

 

I am kind of rambling; yet, my point is liberals are viewed as demons for even considering using tax money to help the common citizen, but Bush is not lumped in the group for doing the same thing for wall street companies. I am really just venting and seeing if there is anyone out there that thinks the Republican president is a hypocrite with this move.

 

If you respond, care to leave a prediction of what you think is going to happen to the economy?

 


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It's a Great System.

Observer wrote:

I don't care how Bush spins this or anyone else.  Why is it that when people purpose using large sums of money to create health care and other benefits for citizens and children it is socialism. Now, tonight, when Wall Street crashes and Bush purposes we do the same freaking thing but instead of health care, education, or anything else we use it to bail out these companies ,it is not socialism?

 

I don't want the economy to suffer from these companies. But, I mean come on, Democrats have always admitted that they want to use the government as a tool for change. Republicans want the government to never step in and let the market work itself out. Yet, now they are claiming it is time for the government to help.

 

Why is this justifiable?

 

Government money for health care, education, ect = Wicked Socialism (ohhhhh be afraid)

 

Government money to bail out bad companies does not = Wicked Socialism????

 

I am kind of rambling; yet, my point is liberals are viewed as demons for even considering using tax money to help the common citizen, but Bush is not lumped in the group for doing the same thing for wall street companies. I am really just venting and seeing if there is anyone out there that thinks the Republican president is a hypocrite with this move.

 

If you respond, care to leave a prediction of what you think is going to happen to the economy?

 

 

 

It's a great system folks.  Privatize the profits, socialize the losses and pay off the incompetent CEO's with golden handshakes.  How can I join the club? 

As for the the future of the economy this may well be the beginning of the end of the USA as a super power, just as WWI and WWII marked the effective end of the mighty British Empire.  China is waiting in the wings to take over, as is India and a newly emergent Russia.

It's a worry!

 

 

  

 

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Observer wrote: Why is this

Observer wrote:

 

Why is this justifiable?

 

I agree, its not justifiable. All they are doing is keeping the weakest banks and businesses alive for a while longer. And Bush lies about no business/consumer will be able to get credit if this is not done. Only the weak businesses will be not be able to get credit. Unqualified people would not be able to get credit. In the long run this is the way things should be, so the economy would improve.

It could be justifiable as an investment if one could make the case that housing prices have bottomed out and the government is simple buying foreclosed properties as bargain basement prices. That could be a good use of Social Security funds if they were running a surplus. Even then, $700 billion would be way to big. But since they're running a huge deficit, to borrow more money is simply irresponsible.

The reason liberal handouts are wrong is that they never fix the underlying problem. When people are so indigent they require "free" services from the government, they are at that point people of poor parenting, poor education and a social social environment that encourages behaviors that lead to poverty. To just fix the symptoms is just continually filling in pot holes with out ever fixing the road bed. The government has to change bad behaviors not encourage them by rewarding them with welfare.

Believe it or not I get called a socialist/Carl Marx, far left radical by the economic conservative. Then I'm Ann Coulter/Rush Limbaugh to the pro- unlimited welfare crowd here. But if you take the rational position this is what to expect. Politics and economics is as polluted with emotion driven irrationality as theology. That's why politics and religion are lumped together as things not talk about. If you take a rational position in either, you will be attracted for encroaching on people's fantasy world.

What's wrong with just "Government money for health care, education, ect ..." is this is usually emotion driven instead of the rationality of will it work or not work? Is there any science behind believing a particular program/policy will work in the long run.

Free, unlimited, unconditional health care for a lifetime sounds good if you "care". But is should also sound like rewarding bad behaviors to a rational thinking person.

 

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For f'sake, there are many

For f'sake, there are many other better ways to spend 700bill, they are even cheaper:

1. Manned mission to mars (COOL)

2. Stem cell research (Someone would be mad Laughing out loud )

3. Solar power research, or any other research. (Lets kill oil-mafia Smiling )

For f'sake even a second LHC would be better investment.


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They really should have

They really should have passed that. We're talking about people not being able to get mortgages at all if this goes on which would wreak havoc on:

1. Real Estate

2. Construction

3. Movers

To a lesser extent movers, furnishing, places like Home Depot etc (as people do remodel/redecorate their homes. ) Then there's all the secondary effects - people who would get business from them who won't now... Besides, 700 billion (at least some of which likely would have been repaid) is less than the 1.2 TRILLION that was lost just in one day from the stock market dropping.

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Something is seriously amiss

Something is seriously amiss here!  I agree with MattShizzle.  Oh my!