Why isn’t logic a subject in schools ?

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Why isn’t logic a subject in schools ?

 

Why isn’t logic a subject  in schools ? It’s a interesting question so please give me your opinion.

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MattShizzle wrote:I can't

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I can't see that IB being used in the US. The outrage by parents when more than half the kids in a school failed (possibly like 90% in some schools) would be enough the politicians would either vote to get rid of it or be voted out in favor of ones who did.

I suspect it may be worse than that. I've seen a trend recently in the states where theists teach their kids at home since the school isn't religious enough. I doubt very much that a system which uses internationally agreed upon criteria would be very religious freindly.

Deludedgod, if you happen to know off hand, when was IB introduced to the Canadian educational system? I'd never heard of it before.

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Can someone please tell me

Can someone please tell me what IB stands for.  It's very well to know what it is, but I cannot look it up for myself because I don't know what it means.

Deludedgod, are you sure it's used in Canada?  And where?  Are you referring to an International Baccalaureate (IB)?

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Quote:International

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International Baccalaureate

Yes.

"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.

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Oh.  In which case a few of

Oh.  In which case a few of those schools exist.


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Re:why isn't logic taught in schools...

Churches thrive on the "herd mentality".(Thank you Nietzsche) Knowledge leads to power and towards becoming a free-thinker. In which case you become dangerous to the church. Let's face it the church is a self empowering entity. Since any church thrives on the illogical it just is damn near impossible to have logic added to a school's curriculum. Unfortunately the power of the church is far reaching and their hypocricy knows no bounds.


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JillSwift wrote:What schools

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What schools need to be teaching is critical thinking.

Well said. Sagan thought critical thinking to be important enough to teach a special class in it albeit to only a few select students. I was lucky enough to go to private school where there was no elected school board, the curriculum being set by the headmaster in concert with the trustees and the heads of department & based upon the Cambridge "O" & "A" Level courses and had some truly great teachers.

My Grade 7 teacher (last year of Junior School, 12 years old) remains one of the most influential. An outspoken atheist, he was teaching critical thought until his death in 1994. A testament to the man (Owen Davies) was that he often said that one of his greatest problems with Christianity was that you could live a life of sin & wrongdoing, but repent on your deathbed & go to heaven. His reported last words were a tirade of abuse directed at the Zimbawean cricket selectors for choosing, in his view, the wrong players for the then upcoming tour.

I'm still in touch with a few people from that year. Most are atheist, agnostic or apathetic, but one is a Methodist minister in Harare. Goes to show you can't reach everyone.

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This topic might be old, but

This topic might be old, but I participated in it, and there's something that needs to be said.

EXC wrote:

I've just debated enough people who believe in the welfare state to realize they only want to "help" the less fortunate with other people's money because they get some kind of high from feeling like their helping when they are doing nothing. Reality doesn't matter when your advocating wealth redistribution with other people's money, only that you feel like you 'care'.

You've obviously never debated me.

EXC wrote:

You advocate a permanent welfare/wealth redistribution system to reward people who fail to get an education and become productive members of society.

No, I don't.

EXC wrote:
You want to give more wealth to the governments that screwed up education so badly in the first place that people become so indigent and dependent.

Wrong again. After a transition to a socialist state, the governments that so mismanaged various things before would no longer exist.

EXC wrote:
 You advocate having society live beyond our means.

Wrong again.

EXC wrote:
 So attack me with emotional personal attacks and misrepresentations, this just shows how irrational you are.

Since you "know how to think", please explain how a society can survive with so many people living beyond their means? And a government living beyond our means? How it can survive with a system that rewards failure and punishes success? This is why we have this financial crisis this week.

Since your questions here are based on a strawman, they deserve no recognition.

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