The New Atheist Crusaders and their quest for the Unholy Grail
Hey all. It's been a while since I've been on. I appologise, I've been busy.
The title of this forum is the title of a book I just finished reading. It's a catchy title, so I figured it'd be a good way to grab someone's attention on here. The book is written by Becky Garrison.
If her name doesn't sound familiar, that's fine, it shouldn't. So why am I wasting your time telling you about this book? Well, I'm glad you asked. This is a book written by a True Christian. HUH? For all of you who have discussed with me in the past, you understand what I'm talking about and for those of you who haven't you can research my blogs. Caposkia is my name.
Anyway, It's written from the viewpoint of how a true Christian feels about of course the atheists in the world today, but more importantly for you, how she feels about Christians in the world.
This is for all of you arguing with me about how Christians have to be black and white. How you have to follow a religion and there's nothing outside of religion etc. She touches on all of this. I truly think you'll enjoy reading this book and I would like to hear from those of you who have read it if anyone. If not, I"ll wait till someone finishes it. It's not a very long book.
When I first came onto this site, I wanted to discuss directly with those who were involved in the infamous television debate that RRS was involved in about the existence of God with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron. They didn't have time and the other non-believers I came across were too opinionated to involve themselves in a conversation that made any progress. Instead I got into other debates which for the most part were a lot of fun, but I digress.
Becky mentions this debate as well in her book at the end. This is for all of you on here I've talked to who would not believe me or had other personal issues with the fact that my opinion didn't flow with their idea of a Christian. I will breifly say that I hold her viewpoint when she says that if she was at that debate, she would have "crawled out of that church in shame. "
Simply put, we both agree that both sides put forth deplorable excuses for their side and did not defend their side succesfully. I know I know, many of you will disagree and say that RRS did disprove the existance of God in that debate, but enough with the opinions, I'm saying the other side did just as good of a job proving God. This debate is a poor excuse to not follow Christ and this book talks about those types of Christians.
This book should clarify many misunderstandings of how True Christians are and I hope bring light to a new understanding of our following.
It is written differently than most books, but is an informational peice and uses a lot of researched information. It does focus on the "New Atheists" and is not a book preaching to the masses. As said, it is from the point of view of a True Christian.
enjoy, let me know your thoughts. I would also request, please be respectful in your responses. I'm here to have mature discussions with people.
So it's a church where you can pretty much worship whatever you want to as long as you don't offend. I mean if you don't use "humanly imposed rules, rituals and regulations", how can you use any part of the Bible? If you don't use the Bible, how can you claim to be "Christ-centered, based on God's amazing grace"?
After all, religion by its nature is legalistic.
did I say all that?
First of all, what is a church to you?
BTW, The Gosple is grace, not Law.
What cappy wont admit is that laws and morality are not a result of a disimbodied being, but of the evolution of the species. It frightens the theist that the super natural explination is not required to explain human behavior and that is merely a matter of their own ego refusing to let go of absurdity.
you should review this forum and see how repetitive you get. Are you trying to convince people of this? I think they understood the first few times.
I am not as gullible as you. I have a personal definition of sceintific method as much as I have a personal definition of miosis or gravity.
...and yet you continuously avoid the question just like you've avoided presenting a reliable source for your claims.
I'm asking you for your personal definition (which I cannot look up) because I've met many people who have definitions of popular understandings that tend to skew off the main definition according to their preference. I just want to make sure you and I are on the same page. I think we can agree I've been making a viable effort in doing so. Balls in your court.
HERE ARE THE FACTS YOU DONT WANT TO FACE!
It is all in your head, just like it is all in the head of a Muslim who truely thinks Allah is real, and just like the ancient Egyptians truely believed that a giant ball of gas cared about them.
It is absurd to claim that a disimbodied entity by any name exists and even more absurd to claim that it can, even if it choses not too, control every atom in the univers and direct it's corse to it's whim.
Your fantacy is merely another in human history.
such confidence. Again, what source have you? or please define for me the scientific method be it that the previous conversation on it in this forum didn't clarify. This way we might actually make progress in this forum.
Let's put some "logic" into perspective for a moment btw. Yea, i know, it's a stretch but let's try it.
If my God is real and therefore is almighty and all powerful. He is our father who created us and is even aware when the most insignificant organism dies, why would he take the time to make you fart a car so that you can be convinced he's real? He didn't waste his time proving himself to all those who made similar requests in the Bible, He wouldnt' treat you any different?
You keep asking me what sources I have.
But what your dense cheerleading scull cant seem to fathom is science.
If you use a yardstick to mesure the area in your room, YOU ARE USING SCINECE. You don't need to make up stories about a yardstick. You can use the same yardstick anywhere and it will give you the same results without prayer or incantations or meditation. Much like a themometer in a dead body can be used to calculate how long a body has been dead.
It is not confidence anymore than saying I will take a shit tommorow is. I am confident that Santa and Thor and Allah are fiction, but not out of arrogence, but because the claims the people make DONT match up to reality.
You merely like what you believe and because of your ego you cant get it into your head that it is just that, all in your head.
If you chose to use an unscientific mythological book written by goat hearders, that is up to you. But don't ask me to substitute a telliscope for superstition to determine the moon's orbits or ocean tides because you like the idea of a being with no body magically manipulating such things.
I am special to myself and to the people who know me, but to the trillions apon googles of atoms in the universe, I am not even a blip. My life is not a result of magic anymore than Thor was a thinking being wanting to strike me down with lightning for not kissing his ass.
You suffer from the delusion that non-human items have human qualities because the fear of your own mortality wont allow you to accept that you are. If you have a hero to pull you off the train tracks you can foil the mustach villian(mortality). Your problem is that mortality is not a villian, but an uncongnative reality of all biological life from the amoeba to the human.
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