The New Atheist Crusaders and their quest for the Unholy Grail
Hey all. It's been a while since I've been on. I appologise, I've been busy.
The title of this forum is the title of a book I just finished reading. It's a catchy title, so I figured it'd be a good way to grab someone's attention on here. The book is written by Becky Garrison.
If her name doesn't sound familiar, that's fine, it shouldn't. So why am I wasting your time telling you about this book? Well, I'm glad you asked. This is a book written by a True Christian. HUH? For all of you who have discussed with me in the past, you understand what I'm talking about and for those of you who haven't you can research my blogs. Caposkia is my name.
Anyway, It's written from the viewpoint of how a true Christian feels about of course the atheists in the world today, but more importantly for you, how she feels about Christians in the world.
This is for all of you arguing with me about how Christians have to be black and white. How you have to follow a religion and there's nothing outside of religion etc. She touches on all of this. I truly think you'll enjoy reading this book and I would like to hear from those of you who have read it if anyone. If not, I"ll wait till someone finishes it. It's not a very long book.
When I first came onto this site, I wanted to discuss directly with those who were involved in the infamous television debate that RRS was involved in about the existence of God with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron. They didn't have time and the other non-believers I came across were too opinionated to involve themselves in a conversation that made any progress. Instead I got into other debates which for the most part were a lot of fun, but I digress.
Becky mentions this debate as well in her book at the end. This is for all of you on here I've talked to who would not believe me or had other personal issues with the fact that my opinion didn't flow with their idea of a Christian. I will breifly say that I hold her viewpoint when she says that if she was at that debate, she would have "crawled out of that church in shame. "
Simply put, we both agree that both sides put forth deplorable excuses for their side and did not defend their side succesfully. I know I know, many of you will disagree and say that RRS did disprove the existance of God in that debate, but enough with the opinions, I'm saying the other side did just as good of a job proving God. This debate is a poor excuse to not follow Christ and this book talks about those types of Christians.
This book should clarify many misunderstandings of how True Christians are and I hope bring light to a new understanding of our following.
It is written differently than most books, but is an informational peice and uses a lot of researched information. It does focus on the "New Atheists" and is not a book preaching to the masses. As said, it is from the point of view of a True Christian.
enjoy, let me know your thoughts. I would also request, please be respectful in your responses. I'm here to have mature discussions with people.
You know what I love about this thread? I jumped in just long enough to explain the fundamental necessity of science, logic, and empiricism, and did so in thorough fashion. Curiously, I'm the only poster whose contribution has been completely avoided by the OP. Funny, that...
It's nice to see that the ad hominem attack is still standard issue for Christians these days. Predictability is one of the hallmarks of religious expression, I suppose. Unfortunately for you, your emotional outburst was premature. I used to believe in a god, but I was not raised to believe in the Christian idea of god, which is the general assumption made about atheists by Christians like you. It is is also unfortunate that even your idea of atheism centers around Christianity, as if we endorsed every other religion and philosophy other than yours, and that by leaving you out you are somehow hurt by this. I'm glad that the dismissive tone of my post ruffled your feathers and revealed the true nature hidden beneath your seemingly-magnanimous veneer.
HUH????? Ok, Let me level.. First, I'm sorry if I said or came across as one who assumed you being against just Christians. If you follow the topics of this forum you'll notice that I've been talking generally of a spiritual world and not of YHWH.
I am sorry if I said that or came across that way. That was not my intention.
As far as ruffling my feathers. In my head my response was just informative, not argumentative or accusing. Again, I'm sorry if that's how you percieved my response.
You also whined.
Actually, I said it with a shrug
Another interesting tactic, but one that will not pass muster. You never just suggested the book, but you asked for others to share their thoughts. You have attempted to obfuscate long enough. There isn't one book written in the entire history of written books that can prove the existence of a god or gods, and none that can sway the rational among us into believing otherwise. So what would be the point of discussing this 'new' book by Garrrison? One of the more obvious behaviors for those who feel guilty about believing in a god and participating in a religion is the contrived way they attempt to defend their beliefs, in this case using another person's book as a prop, when all the while they just want to hear the reasons for not believing again. They want to make sure they heard it right the first time, because it makes so much sense they can't believe that it has crushed their previously-held false beliefs so quickly and so thoroughly. It also explains the ad hominem attacks that absolutely must be perpetrated no matter what, because that's what happens when children or the adult immature realize that what they have been told is right, but do not want to admit it. Let it go Caposkia. Eschew your willful ignorance. We will gladly welcome you into the fold when you find the strength to leave the lies behind.
...uhuh... Haven't followed much on here have you.
Someone once opined that "All sportswriters are hacks." I tend to view religious apologists in the same light; in the end, all of their intellectualism belies the physical reality. Comfort does not mean you don't have to think. Comfort means freedom to think and live rationally because there is no pain and suffering from the false dichotomies of religious indoctrination and oppression.
Ah, ok... so you hold the stereotypical understanding I am not a part of. Start reading some stuff on here and other blogs I have, then we'll talk.
Let me know when you want to be serious