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Just curious as to what "service" you feel this site provides to the world. Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old. You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me. Try reading CS lewis' 'Mere Christianity' for a little insight.

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ROn wrote:Just curious as to

ROn wrote:
Just curious as to what "service" you feel this site provides to the world. Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old. You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me. Try reading CS lewis' 'Mere Christianity' for a little insight.

Take care.

Ron B

Hi! I'm 41. I've read 'Mere Christianity', it was the usual suspects for Christian argument. Try reading these books for more than a little insight.

"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray


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am not

 

     I am not a silly mis guided kid and I am going to hold my breath untill you take that Back!!!

(Holding breath.------------ turning blue-ish)

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Jeffrick wrote:     I am

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     I am not a silly mis guided kid and I am going to hold my breath untill you take that Back!!!

(Holding breath.------------ turning blue-ish)

Ahh, cyanosis. My favorite lip color.

 

"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray


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This is a great site for

This is a great site for atheists to meet and share ideas. What do you think it's for? Yes I am almost 40 so there are members or 30 in answer to your question. Now my turn, Is it always in your nature to attack others with name calling because they do not share the infinite love of your sky daddy?

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     I'm    53   and I'm still holding my breath.  How can he think I'm  like so immature?

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ron b wrote: ROn sent a

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ROn sent a message using the contact form at http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.

Just curious as to what "service" you feel this site provides to the world. Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old. You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me. Try reading CS lewis' 'Mere Christianity' for a little insight.

It provides a place for atheists to discuss ways that we can retake the world from delusion and fantasy. We had to find something else to do besides play D and D after we got older. I can't even remember being 30 anymore. I'm 57.

 

 

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Jeffrick wrote:I'm   

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I'm    53   and I'm still holding my breath.  How can he think I'm  like so immature?
Impressive lung volume. (I'm assuming you're still conscious and lucid enough to read this.)

 

"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray


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Grandparents

 

       Fortunately there are many Atheist grandparents in this world.  We have very intelligent children with college degrees and personally speaking my grand-kids are great.  However I do have to share them with the other side of their family, somehow religion is not a problem.   Now the real problem is finding that e-mail address to send this message.  No we are not all under 30, but I don't mind being called a kid.


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JillSwift wrote:

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I'm    53   and I'm still holding my breath.  How can he think I'm  like so immature?
Impressive lung volume. (I'm assuming you're still conscious and lucid enough to read this.)

 

   Yes.

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I'm 34. CS Lewis should have

I'm 34. CS Lewis should have stuck to writing fiction for children instead of defending fiction for adults. In terms of logic in his apologetics writings he came across as a complete idiot.

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JillSwift wrote:Hi! I'm 41.

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Hi! I'm 41. I've read 'Mere Christianity', it was the usual suspects for Christian argument. Try reading these books for more than a little insight.

JillSwift! High-five. I too am 41. I haven't figured out how to feel older than about 20, but I really am 41.

And he'd better take back that whole "younger than 30" thing, or I'm kicking his ass after recess.

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Quote:Just curious as to

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Just curious as to what "service" you feel this site provides to the world.

1.  Science, philosophy, and logic resources for anyone who wants them... for free, even!

http://www.rationalresponders.com/rrs_authors

2.  A venue for atheists to get together and talk with other atheists.  This is pretty important for a lot of our members, who are the only atheists in their communities.

3.  We show atheists that it's not only ok to admit to atheism, but it's good for society as a whole.

4.  We help dispel the myths about atheists and atheism.  I bet you believe most of them, interestingly...

5.  Generally being a pain in the ass to people like Kent Hovind and Ray Comfort.  Clowns like that need to have their stupid agendas exposed for what they really are.  We're here to help with that.

6.  Supporting other atheist groups who are on board with our goals.

7.  A place for theists to get to talk to atheists one on one.

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Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old.

I can't remember Kelly's age, and Rook is under 30, but the rest of the core members are over 30.  Many of our members are well over 30.  I don't have an exact figure because our active membership changes a lot, but I'd guess the average age here would be between 28 and 35.

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You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me.

Bummer.  I guess your intuition is wrong sometimes.... you might take that to heart...

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Try reading CS lewis' 'Mere Christianity' for a little insight.

Really?  You think?  Ok, Einstein.  If Lewis is so amazing, why'd he leave off the fourth L?  Lord, Liar, Lunatic... OR LEGEND?

It's clearly a possibility, and he didn't even address it.  Unfortunately, the rest of his philosophy(sic!) is no better.  His work has been laid bare by so many hundreds of competent philosophers that I'm surprised he still gets brought up by theists... but he does...

Must be something about blatant disregard for what is true, particularly when we really, really, really want to believe something else.

Critique of Miracles

Critique of Mere Christianity

False Trilemma

There are a few to get you started.

 

 

 

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MattShizzle wrote:I'm 34. CS

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I'm 34. CS Lewis should have stuck to writing fiction for children instead of defending fiction for adults. In terms of logic in his apologetics writings he came across as a complete idiot.

You've read his fiction for children, right?

He came off as an idiot there, too.

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57 and going strong.  Been

57 and going strong.  Been an atheist my entire life, just didn't know it until I was about 11 and had read the bible a few times trying to figure out why it didn't make much sense. Finally realized it's all bullshit and have been happy since.  No superstition to get in the way of a fulfilling life.

No, I'm not talking about a life of debauchery.  I'll leave that to the christian fundies. 

The only time I think I've been misguided was when I was going to church.  Even then I didn't buy the "Flinstone Theory" of the Young Earth wack-jobs. 

I'd be willing to bet a lot of us have read more than a few books on both sides of this fence.  Try reading some of Rooks, Kellys and Sapients blogs as well as others.  Read them with an open mind and don't pre-judge the people or subject, you might learn something yourself.

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Well the service this site

Well the service this site offers varies from information on psychology, science, history, life and of course religion. There is some sarcasm mixed in and some good old fashioned debate as well.

This is a place for atheists of different backgrounds and in many cases, different opinions, to interact. We attract not only atheists but people of many different beliefs...

What are your beliefs Ron?

What makes our group 'misguided'?

Oh, and I am 37 years old but tend to feel 80 when I read and respond to posts by people with a 'hit and run' style of sharing an opinion.

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ROn sent a message using the contact form at http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.

Just curious as to what "service" you feel this site provides to the world. Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old. You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me. Try reading CS lewis' 'Mere Christianity' for a little insight.

Take care.

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How goes the cyanosis,

How goes the cyanosis, Jeffrick?


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JillSwift wrote:How goes the

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How goes the cyanosis, Jeffrick?

   Still waiting for like a mature answer and appology,  (Inhailing)

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Quote:You just seem like a

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You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me.

"Fear believes-Courage doubts.  Fear falls up the earth and prays.  Courage stands erect and thinks.  Fear is barbarism-courage is civilization.   Fear believes in witchcraft, devils and ghosts.  Fear is religion, courage is science".

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And that sounds like kids to you ?

 

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While I know this site has a

While I know this site has a few slightly more mature members ie over 30 I always thought it was aimed at the young by design which is very sensible as thats exactly where religious try to brain wash people. Generally a lot harder once people get away from their parents

 


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What does age have to do

What does age have to do with anything anyways? Lack of knowledge based on age is no longer a valid arguement, since the invention of the internet.

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I'm over 30 too.  It is a

I'm over 30 too.  It is a person's responsibility to do what they can to make the world a better place.  I don't think anyone here expects religion will die off anytime soon.  However, if the ignorance and destruction can be held at bay even just a little, that is a plus.  Helping people think and be rational is of service to the wider community.


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Doe my soon to be 44

Does my soon to be 44 (Saturday, in fact) heart good to see all the oldsters admitting to it. Smiling

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I am 16 "You just seem like

I am 16

"You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me"

Maybe i am one of those misguided kids.

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Abstraction0930 wrote:Maybe

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Maybe i am one of those misguided kids.

Naw, he sent the letter two months before you joined the site.  Eye-wink

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Yeah over 30 here, 32 to be

Yeah over 30 here, 32 to be exact...and yes I am misguided, I have led astray many a good irish catholic girls >:D.....wait a minute their catholic girls what am I talking about there aren't any bigger sinners than catholic school girls.


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The service that this site

The service that this site provides is rational, critical, logical, and clear thinking discussions and information.  I see this as a site for people who like to think skeptically and see religion for what it really is.  Dangerous and delusional. 

I am 22 years old and I am wondering why you think I am a "silly, misguided kid"?  You have never met me and I am sure you haven't met any of the people on this site. 

 

There are people in there 30's and older who are "silly and misguided". 

George W. Bush

Bill O'Reilly

Ann Coulter

Pat Robertson

The Pope

 

Just to name a few.

 

I will add C.S. Lewis' "Mere Christianity" to my list of books to read.  I have a feeling that it will be the same thing that every Christian says, "Belief is nice and I like it, BLAH!". 

 

 


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I'm 19. Your Appeal to Age

I'm 19. Your Appeal to Age argument is both pointless and insulting. If you are insinuating no one under 30 can do anything worthwhile, I would invite you to review some of my posts on this site. I have engaged in debate with, and might I dare say, probably come out better than many theists here, many of whom I'm sure were over 30.

I do not feel silly or misguided, 90% of the christians I know are under 30. Guess they're silly and misguided!

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Loc wrote:I'm 19. Your

Loc wrote:

I'm 19. Your Appeal to Age argument is both pointless and insulting. If you are insinuating no one under 30 can do anything worthwhile, I would invite you to review some of my posts on this site. I have engaged in debate with, and might I dare say, probably come out better than many theists here, many of whom I'm sure were over 30.

I do not feel silly or misguided, 90% of the christians I know are under 30. Guess they're silly and misguided!

"I'm special" is the mantra of all sky daddy cheerleading clubs of any label which is funny considering the planet has 6 billion people living on it. And all these clubs claim they invented morality rather than consider what we know that morality is an evolutionary trait and not a product of magic.

They never consider that people can get moral stories out of fiction such as Star Wars or The Cat In The Hat or Harry Potter without litterally believing in those characters.

 

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Ron wrote:Also wondering if

Ron wrote:
Also wondering if you have ANY members over 30 yrs old. You just seem like a bunch of silly misguided kids to me.

 

I'm 19 and STILL have a more mature way of dealing with people than you do, sir :/

It's interesting that you call Atheists misguided.  It takes no guidance to choose and lead a life void of religious beliefs.  But it takes PLENTY of guidance to lead a "pious" life.  So who's the misguided one?

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Sakura. wrote:I'm 19 Are you

Sakura. wrote:

I'm 19

Are you a girl? say yes say yes say yes say yes...

 

 


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19 as well.

19 as well.


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         Age

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Loc wrote:Sakura. wrote:I'm

Loc wrote:

Sakura. wrote:

I'm 19

Are you a girl? say yes say yes say yes say yes...

"Sakura" is Japanese for "cherry blossom", if I recall from the song, and if you're a single male, you should develop the skill that is finding the wedding ring. Ah, there it is.

I was born in 1461, so I'd say I have seniority. What's that ... 546 years old? Yeah. I feel young at heart, though.

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Loc wrote:Sakura. wrote:I'm

Loc wrote:

Sakura. wrote:

I'm 19

Are you a girl? say yes say yes say yes say yes...

 

Girl, but for all intensive purposes married XD Sorry if I misinterpreted your eagerness as to my gender ^^;

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Actually, thousands of people witnessed his existence on earth, and many testified to his existence in the pages of the Bible.

That's true, just as there's thousands of people who witnessed Harry Potter's existence on earth in the Harry Potter series of books.

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While I know this site has a few slightly more mature members ie over 30 I always thought it was aimed at the young by design which is very sensible as thats exactly where religious try to brain wash people. Generally a lot harder once people get away from their parents

 

  

      Now I'm going to pout.  Should I be offended by this statement?  No way is this site aimed at any particular age.  Everyone here has been far more intelligent than I will ever hope to be.  Well maybe not everyone, but most, and age has nothing to do with it.


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Loc wrote:

I'm 19. Your Appeal to Age argument is both pointless and insulting. If you are insinuating no one under 30 can do anything worthwhile, I would invite you to review some of my posts on this site. I have engaged in debate with, and might I dare say, probably come out better than many theists here, many of whom I'm sure were over 30.

I do not feel silly or misguided, 90% of the christians I know are under 30. Guess they're silly and misguided!

 

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