The scope of this thread includes religion.  Perhaps you are unaware, considering your disinterest and opinion on American politics, that John McCain is very religious and that the Right in America is extremely religious?  The upcoming election is not just a political issue, but a religious issue as well and it should come as no surprise to you that the RRS does not support, and in fact is vocally railing against, a candidate and party that are motivated by extreme religiosity.

Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that you are not aware of the issues surrounding this election ((it shows a serious, American (not the total population), lack of worldliness)) and that you think, considering the fact that the Right in America is so religious, that expressing political opinions here somehow undermines the point of the site.

Beside all that, anyone here is free to discuss, I believe, anything they want to at all.  You didn't have to post in this thread.  You don't have to read any threads about any politics, even the threads about the Canadian election, if you don't want.  Actually, you don't have to read any threads about evolution, or science, or the environment, or anything else that's not explicitly and only about religion.  In fact, you'd best not read this response either.

Edit: And let me add that the only thing dissapointing about this is you.

This is one of those forums as indicated by the title of the discussion.  If you don't like it then what is the point in telling everyone how much you don't like it.  Perhaps next time people will decide to get your permission before starting a thread topic.

I'm not interested in discussions about the latest fall fashion in petticoats, that's why you don't see me looking for forums about petticoats and posting about my disapproval about the subject.  One would imagine that to be a huge waste of time.

But I am GOD

Thomathy:

 If you read my post again I make my specific point about one of the key figures of RRS using his forum to promote his/her political stance. If I can bring you a good analogy - its about as bad as using a sermon to promote Nike. I, of course, recognize the impact religion has had, and still has on America, but that does not in any way support Sapient´s posting of such materlal - if you claim to be a rational responder, just make a rational response!!  Very little of what´s been written in this thread has even remotely anything to do with religion. The war in Iraq and the economy seems to be the key issues (as they are in the rest of the American society).

 Claiming that the republicans and especially McCain is motivated by "extreme  religiosity" is just so off the mark, and just shows an extreme lack of willingness to take a balanced view on what he´s for/against - Do you think a guy that remarries a few times is motivated by his religion? Come on! 

 And for f´s sake - Obama doesn´t exactly stand out as an atheist himself. I understand your fear after what the neo-conservatives have done over the last eight years, but this is a "think-tank" of sorts - not a place to spread propaganda..

 If you don´t see the obvious symbolism and principally dubiousness of that then so be it, but I think that the RRS should stay at doing what it´s good at - make rational responses...

 That first video is not rational - its emotive. 

 And if you thought I wasn´t aware of this election then I will have to ask myself some serious questions about your ability to read the post. I said I wasn´t interested in it within this context, which I find should be more about developing sustainable arguments for atheism and developing a profound criticism against religion within the public sphere.....To just say "McCain is evil" doesn´t really impress anyone...

 So please feel free to continue debating this - I am not gonna stand in your way, but my honest opinion is that spending time on this issue is not gonna help promoting atheism as a personal belief system...

 And thanks for that last little edit you made.....

(edit: This is the way to scare people away from this webpage)

 "Religion is poison" is not a rational response - its a slogan...

 How can McCain win now that he has nominated a complete whack job for the VP slot? 

Perhaps if McCain is elected we can all have an old fashioned witch hunt! Maybe burn some people!

Palin scare the crap out of me ... is it really ok to be that stupid and be in the arguably second most powerful position in the world? Oh ... wait .... the country did elect Bush.

 i don't think the world doesn't love america anymore. I think the rest of the world changed its standards and see things differently. But i really really hope you guys wont vote for that evangelical-taliban racist homophobic gaybasher deseased son of a mozzarella cheese ( ..and that palinistic alaskan witch written with B instead of W... oh my... are they serious? the two look like a circus couple during a strike for a pay rise. Was she really cured from witchcraft? How about some exorcism...) Not that i love obama tho... kinda populisticopulis for me. Racism will end when people will stop considering black either bad or COOL) He is just another guy who desperately wants power. And if he starts talking about jesus while interviewed by jurnalists... wow... talk about preaching and singing to your own choire. bohf

heydoh... hope next president will be smarter than bush. now thats what the rest of the world doesnt like about america.

bye

Empirical Infidel 

  Yep, and thanks for posting. McCain is a hot headed war pig imperialist greedy separatist capitalist liar fear monger retard non hero, a non maverick socialist for the rich only cannibal rich fucks, eating on the poor.

It is way past time to understanding the slogan  "Eat the Rich" , as meaning no more to a super rich class. Peaceful revolution, to no super rich, no super poor, as all for one, all for cooperation, to a better world of no monetary competition. Yes , I AM a Dreamer, a socialist as all is one. I am jesus, I aspire to buddha, I am god, as ALL is ONE. The Golden Rule, long before the famous buddha then jesus, then we.  

That train one was cool.... I forwarded it on to a few

engineers I know....

Thanks Matt for the giggles .... now I wll cry again.