Codex Sinaiticus to be released on-line

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Codex Sinaiticus to be released on-line

Hey, this is a cool one: the oldest known Bible, the Codex Sinaiticus, is being released on-line.

Interestingly enough, it differs somewhat from the modern Bibles:

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The Gospel of Mark ends abruptly after Jesus' disciples discover his empty tomb, for example. Mark's last line has them leaving in fear.

"It cuts out the post-resurrection stories," said Juan Garces, curator of the Codex Sinaiticus Project. "That's a very odd way of ending a Gospel."

The entire thing, including transcription and translation, will be on-line in about a year.


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My favorite part about the

My favorite part about the Sinaiticus is that it does not contain the now added ending to the Gospel of Mark.  Our earliest manuscripts containing the Gospel Mark does not have a resurrection and ascension narrative.

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Cool! Can't wait to see the rest of it!


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As Mark was the earliest

As Mark was the earliest Gospel account and the oldest manuscripts didn't have the extra ending of verses 9-20 I have always used it as an example why there was much creatively in other accounts. If I recall by the 4th century there were at least 4 different versions for the end of Mark. It's always interesting to listen to Bible fundamentalists defend this problem.

 

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Rook_Hawkins wrote:My

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My favorite part about the Sinaiticus is that it does not contain the now added ending to the Gospel of Mark.  Our earliest manuscripts containing the Gospel Mark does not have a resurrection and ascension narrative.

From what time does the copies of Mark start containing the added ending?

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Well after the fourth

Well after the fourth century, there are 4 different endings added to Mark 16:8.  All involve post-resurrection narratives although they vary at length.  Hard to say when you see the *first* one come about.  Most of our manuscripts come from the 9th century-onward, as miniscules (where the Greek is written in all lowercase) instead of majiscules (where everything is written in uppercase - the Sinaiticus represents majiscules, and so do the leafs found in the Codex Vaticanus, also fourth century). 

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"You act ridiculously," said Ion, "to doubt every­thing. For my part, I should like to ask you what you say to those who free possessed men from their terrors by exorcising the spirits so manifestly. I need not discuss this: everyone knows about the Syrian from Palestine, the adept in it, how many he takes in hand who fall down in the light of the moon and roll their eyes and fill their mouths with foam; nevertheless, he restores them to health and sends them away normal in mind, delivering them from their straits for a large fee. When he stands beside them as they lie there and asks : 'Whence came you into his body?' the patient himself is silent, but the spirit answers in Greek or in the language of whatever foreign country he comes from, telling how and whence he entered into the man; whereupon, by adjuring the spirit and if he does not obey, threaten­ing him, he drives him out. Indeed, I actually saw one coming out, black and smoky in color." "It is nothing much," I remarked," for you, Ion, to see that kind of sight, when even the 'forms' that the father of your school, Plato, points out are plain to you, a hazy object of vision to the rest of us, whose eyes are weak." - Lucian, Lover of Lies


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Of course this is kind of

Of course this is kind of like pointing out that in Superman comics Clark Kent's dad is still alive while he's an adult, while in Smallville he died while Clark was still a teen.

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Wait a minute... there are

Wait a minute... there are DIFFERENT VERSIONS of the Bible?!

 


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BrainFromArous...

...you should read something by Bart Ehrman, sometime...say, "Misquoting Jesus" or perhaps "The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture."

 

Both are interesting reads, and both will show you ways in which Scripture has been altered.

 

So...to finally get around to answering your question...*yes,* there are different Bible versions.  In fact, there are:

     ---different translations of the same Bible material (for example, the difference in translation between, say, the KJV and the NIV, both of which are Protestant Bibles),

     ---Bibles with differing contents (If you don't believe me on this one, compare the Old Testament of a Catholic Bible with one of a Protestant Bible, sometime.),

    ---and, as already indicated, corruptions within individual books.

 

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This is a huge blow to

This is a huge blow to fundamentalist Christians everywhere. I wonder how they will defend this one... With lies, I'm predicting.


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I send this yesterday to my

I send this yesterday to my devoted 50 + Xain e-mail list , not a reply yet ....

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Conor Wilson wrote:...you

Conor Wilson wrote:

...you should read something by Bart Ehrman, sometime...say, "Misquoting Jesus" or perhaps "The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture."

 

Both are interesting reads, and both will show you ways in which Scripture has been altered.

 

So...to finally get around to answering your question...*yes,* there are different Bible versions.  In fact, there are:

     ---different translations of the same Bible material (for example, the difference in translation between, say, the KJV and the NIV, both of which are Protestant Bibles),

     ---Bibles with differing contents (If you don't believe me on this one, compare the Old Testament of a Catholic Bible with one of a Protestant Bible, sometime.),

    ---and, as already indicated, corruptions within individual books.

 

Conor

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BrainFromArous...

...once again, my hoof-and-mouth disease shows up.

 

One of these days, I'm going to learn to be more careful.

 

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