They are all bullpucky!  The bibble talks about end times saying that only god knows when it will happen.  I'm not positive, but I think jesus was the first to predict end times and he said many of those living during his time would see the end times.  Now, if jeebus really is god, the end times did not occur when he predicted it would, then jeebus/god lied and is full of shit.  If god didn't lie and end times have yet to occur then jeebus is not god.  My personal opinion of all of this is jeebus/god doesn't exist and end times (which will occur through no contribution by any spiritual freak) will occur a few billion years hence through the normal course of a sun dying, and the bibble was written by a bunch of cave dwelling hippies (sorry, that gives modern hippies a bad name, huh?) consuming too much dope or whatever they were imbibing at the time.

I'm not a physicist or astromnomer so I can't speak as to which kind of ending the sun will have but I'll bet it will be one hell of a show.  Actually, I kinda think I'd like to see that one.  Kick back in a lawn chair with a little bud and a little Bud. BTW, I can't take credit for "jeebus" that was being used here long before I saw it.  I've been using the term holly bibble since I was a kid.  Don't remember hearing it anywhere prior to using it but that was one hell of a long time ago and I could have.

Daleks and Davros are back apparently

UK anyway US might need to wait

Sure hasn't, to my knowledge. Except for the whole Jesus prophesy thing. But that could have been one damn good con artist. His parents raised him to think he was the son of god. That sort of thing. But the fact that nothing has hasn't stopped Christianity. But I gotta tell ya, if I were to be waiting for something to happen and 2 millenium later, the foretold destruction of all we hold dear and preservation of all that sickens, saddens and annoys us (Destruction of fun, preservation of religion...*shudder*), I would get a little rebellious. Oh wait, I already have. lol. I was baptised by choice and now I have gone back. oopsie! Oh well!

I dont know if you have seen this,but is indeed a very interesting documentary on the subject :  http://youtube.com/watch?v=5iZ54i2rCZk

 

Also what Terrence Mckenna(one of my idols) have to say about the subject:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w-prt5d6m6s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8XTglkKfYkw&feature=related

There is more info on this just search for Terence Mckenna :: Timewave Zero  on youtube.

 

 

So the Ichin,Mayas' calendar etc doesnt end on 2012?

 

Scan the guide on both the History Channel and National Geographic channels and, over a short period of time, you will find a number of productions promoting christianity through misinformation and outright lies.  Both have aired programs purporting to examine the true history of the bible and promoting the historicity of jeebus.  I think the stations are controlled by ultra-conservative asshats with a theocratic agenda. 

 

Bulldog, you are not mistaken. The Olivet Discourse is perhaps what you are recalling, although some christians deny that it implied the end of the world. There are other passages within the various christian holy books that point to end times  as well.

Check out Matthew 16:28 and also in Mark, somewhere about 8th or 9th chapter.

Think there is also related stuff in 1st Corinthians.

LOL. That's a good one, Leeboy.  Confusion is a good tactic when trying to con people and that's all that religion is, the greatest con ever.

Thanks, Wonko.  Still couldn't find it but I was just scanning the verses and probably missed it.  At least I know I wasn't imagining it since you're also aware of it. I'll find it again one of these days.

Kike_ej20, the History Channel also does entertainment and there's a lot of ufo buffs out there. Some of them believe in the jeebus and some don't.  I know several of the latter.  It could be purely entertainment on History's part or an attempt to proselityze to another group of heathens.  Think about it.  You've got people who believe in space aliens and they may or may not believe in jeebus/god, what better way to attract them to a program so you can preach jeebus and possibly convert more heathens to xtianity?

Actually, the sun is small.  Small for a star.  In fact, it won't produce a supernova.  It is too small.  The actually end of the sun will be it expanding to become a red giant star when it will become much hotter and brighter and way more massive than it is now, reaching out to Earth's orbital boundary and during that time literally stripping Earth of its atmosphere and evaporating all the water just before the surface of our planet becomes a molten sea of rock.  Of course, our own orbit will be pushed back, so we won't necessarily be engulfed, but the picture is bad either way.  Then, when the sun has shed off all of its light layers the hot and dense material left at its core will contract and condense until it is a small white dwarf star (smaller than the Earth?) that will produce very little radiation of any sort and will rather quickly cool (in cosmological terms of time) leaving the Earth to eventually freeze and our solar system to inextricably cool and head towards the maximum state of entropy with the rest of the universe (which it is doing right now, only while the sun is 'alive' it's doing it in a much more exciting way...).

 

Thanks DG.  I had argued with myself but didn't check... I suppose it makes sense that they'd be cooler considering they emit red light.  I guess Earth gets hotter because it's so much closer?

This site has quite a few failed EOTWAWKI predictions. I still like the Mayan prophecy myself. It's close enough away to make you think, but like all others it will not come to fruition. The exact date is supposed to be 21 December 2012. I think the world will be around a long, long time, but we humans may not unless we can get our heads out of our asses. I think that mankind actually has a pretty good chance of survivng some pretty serious catastrophes. However, most species that have existed are extinct and we've only been here a short time.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

 

Damn! Better stock up on a lot of sun block for that event, not to mention ice to keep the brewskis cold.

Untrue. The mass will remain roughly constant until after the red giant phase, when the Sun will shed its outer layers and leave the remaining white dwarf (order of magnitude: size of the Earth) on its own. Otherwise you're quite correct, with the already mentioned correction by DG.

Also, the Earth will be hotter, but that's due to the Sun increasing in radius. The increase in size will over compensate for the decrease in temperature, and the total power emitted by the Sun will be larger than now, increasing our temperature.

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