'The Family' - A Secretive, Elitist, Fascist, Tax-Exempt, Fundamentalist, organization that influences politicians

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'The Family' - A Secretive, Elitist, Fascist, Tax-Exempt, Fundamentalist, organization that influences politicians

I caught this on NPR this afternoon. Basically an author came on to talk about a little known and secretive fraternity known internally as "The Family" and externally by many aliases.

http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/index.php

It's one of the most influential and least well known organizations in the country. The Family, also known as The Fellowship, consider themselves followers of Christ, and individuals responsible for changing the the world. An inside look at the power and history of The Family.

Here is a wiki article about them

The Family

I was pretty shocked to hear what these guys have had their hands in. Not to mention they are tax-exempt despite lobbying all of these politicians, dedicating to "ministering" to the powerful. They've supported dictators, even recruiting former Nazis back in the 40s and have counted members of the US fascist movement among their members. This author was in their group for a while and has spilled the beans on their secrets. Their worldview is essentially a dumbed down form of Calvinism where they, upon joining the family, believe themselves to be members of the elect and from there on, are, no matter what they do, doing the work of Jesus Christ. Their agenda is to turn America into a Christian empire and is incredibly anti-democratic, as they believe that their inner circle of elites should be the ones who rule the world, in the name of god of course. And I am not just using vitriol in the title. All of the things I said about them in the title are things that they have used to describe themselves. Back during the 40s they would do the Hitler salute. Currently they are the sponsors of the national prayer breakfast and when asked by sociologists, many conservative politicians rank them as the most influential religious organization, even higher than focus on the family and the family research council.

Check it out, its very shocking. And not just that, these people are virtually unknown outside of elite circles, which is part of their strategy.

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I was thumbing through the

I was thumbing through the book.."The Family" while wandering through Borders today.  Quite disturbing.

i'm not sure how much good it will do but they need to be exposed.  

 

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The Family by Jeff Sharlet

  Yes indeed ,just thinking about this religious dogma so deeply entrenched in our Government is very scary.I left a post on 6-23-08 briefly asking if any body ever heard of these Idiots,

but nobody heard of them.I watched an Interview with Jeff Sharlet on "Democracy Now" it's on their web page at www.democracynow.org a real eye opener.So then I checked out the Library,and it not in yet ,so I placed a hold on it ,and checked out his other book "Killing the Buddha:A Heretic's Bible"by Peter Manseau & Jeff Sharlet,I've only briefed it so far,and it looks real good.

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Quite disturbing

    AmericanIdle says that the "FAMILY" is quite disturbing,but what is really disturbing is that only two or three people left a comment,meaning that  most people just don't understand the deep connection between Dogma and Power

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It really doesn't surprise

It really doesn't surprise me that this sort of organisation exists in America. It's probably the only place in the West where they could exist.


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This sounds very similar to

This sounds very similar to Dominionism/Christian Reconstructionism. Is there a connection, beyond similar goals? Are they working together or are they divided in some way?

“It is true that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. It is equally true that in the land of the blind, the two-eyed man is an enemy of the state, the people, and domestic tranquility… and necessarily so. Someone has to rearrange the furniture.”


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fucking fascists and their

fucking fascists and their anti-socialist agenda.  i don't care what religion they espouse, in the end they all work together to maintain the status quo, which is the imperialist rape of the third world.  i would put every fucking one of them against the wall and not look back.  parasites.

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I said, 'Father change my name.'
The one I'm using now it's covered up
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Quote:It's one of the most

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It's one of the most influential and least well known organizations in the country.

...Fire? You know what 'internally inconsistent' means, right?

That's what your above statement is.

 

You cannot be extremely influential without being well known. Being well known is a requisite for being influential. Take a look at actual dictators in the past, from across the world: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot... these men attained their powers through notoriety, not secrecy.

Wells got it right. The guys you ought to fear are the ones championing violent upheaval and radical revolution, not the bogeymen some people claim have the world on puppet strings.

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This author was in their group for a while and has spilled the beans on their secrets.

People claim this kind of crap all the time, Fire. Some people claim to have helped to have been participants in the 9/11 conspiracy; it doesn't mean the conspiracy is real. There's this stuff called 'evidence', and I like to see it before I'll give weight to the kind of accusations this fellow wants to make (even if it's a Christian org being accused).

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"Natasha has just come up to the window from the courtyard and opened it wider so that the air may enter more freely into my room. I can see the bright green strip of grass beneath the wall, and the clear blue sky above the wall, and sunlight everywhere. Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression and violence, and enjoy it to the full."

- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
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Kevin R Brown wrote:Take a

Kevin R Brown wrote:

Take a look at actual dictators in the past, from across the world: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot... these men attained their powers through notoriety, not secrecy.

gotta disagree with you there on stalin at least.  he came to power almost totally through internal party maneuvering and didn't have a lot of popular notoriety at the time.  he was just very clever, managed to get himself on both the politburo and the orgburo, and kept tabs on everybody (which is why he was jokingly referred to as "comrade card index" ).  the cult of personality and popular acclaim came during the arms race with nazi germany and WWII, years after he assumed control of the communist party and the government.  in terms of charisma, he was pretty bland.  if anybody had a lot of popular acclaim, violent rhetoric, and revolutionary zeal, it was trotsky, and look what happened to him.

this is also true of mao, to a lesser degree.  while he already had quite a popular legend about himself built up by the time of the long march, so did his big rivals like gao gang and wang ming (who had stalin's support).  wang ming especially was charismatic and notorious.  mao, just like stalin, got to where he did primarily through party maneuvering.  he was even less charismatic that stalin, and had a legendary fear of public speaking.  he couldn't even speak mandarin, only a hunan dialect.

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The one I'm using now it's covered up
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Kevin R Brown

Kevin R Brown wrote:

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It's one of the most influential and least well known organizations in the country.

...Fire? You know what 'internally inconsistent' means, right?

That's what your above statement is. You cannot be extremely influential without being well known. Being well known is a requisite for being influential. Take a look at actual dictators in the past, from across the world: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot... these men attained their powers through notoriety, not secrecy.

Wells got it right. The guys you ought to fear are the ones championing violent upheaval and radical revolution, not the bogeymen some people claim have the world on puppet strings.

Sure you can. The individual members are all well known on their own. They are ministry of the powerful by the powerful,. a kind of cult for the elite. They don't need to be known by the public to influence policy, they just need to get other politicans to buy into their bullshit.

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This author was in their group for a while and has spilled the beans on their secrets.

People claim this kind of crap all the time, Fire. Some people claim to have helped to have been participants in the 9/11 conspiracy; it doesn't mean the conspiracy is real. There's this stuff called 'evidence', and I like to see it before I'll give weight to the kind of accusations this fellow wants to make (even if it's a Christian org being accused).

The evidence is out there, its not like a 9-11 conspiracy. They don't rule the world, but they are more powerful than all the christian groups people know about.