Is the RRS a CIA front company? {Tearin' Down the Gates of Trollville}
Offline Most of you involved in the RRS are youthful, but thoughtful, an oddity in modern America. However, you are indulging your emotions and wasting what little time you have been granted on planet earth.
YES...of course their is no GOD. But even if there is, so what? Why waste precisous time in an indulgent effort to "convert" believers? People smart enough and strong enough to accept our aloneness in the universe already understand, those adults that have not and cannot embrace the idea of a godless universe will never understand. So what?!
There is lots of hate on this site. Hate diminishes only the hater. Don't be a hater.
Thus, I cannot envision hanging with the RRS team, I can however embrace the paradoxical experience of knowing Kelly in the biblical sense.
Yeah yeah yeah....I know....this diatribe had nothing to do with the CIA...so?...report me to GOD.
Arguably going to work,getting mrried,and pretty much anything is wasting what little time you have on earth.It's our lives, and we choose to do this.And unless you are a Vulcan,what's wrong with indulging your emotions?
Generic answer for christians:
So what if people believe something else. Why not just let them be?
Problem: Remember the Twin Towers? Want to live in a world were stem cell research could prolong lives? Then speak out against religion. If an adult still believed in Santa, wouldn’t you feel compelled to put them straight? Religion is severely dangerous to our world. Try find a war that didn’t have religious influence behind it. Whenever there is religion, knowledge is shunned and ridiculed.
Most christians think the world would be great if everyone thought like they did. We had that once. It was called the Dark Age, and it set humanity back possibly centuries. The fact is, people will rather vote for someone who has no qualification except believing in god, than a highly capable person who doesn’t.
People once believed demons caused illness and drilling holes in peoples head was considered the cutting edge of medicine. If that’s the world you want, keep up your religion.
Yes,lead to the dark side hate does.However,I don't agree.Emotions can run high here,and things get said.But we don't hate anyone.If we did,we wouldn't try help them.
Loc'n'Load
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Define youthful. The average age of the core group (those of us who run the site and make the shows) is about 30. I'm flattered you consider this youthful, as I think I'm getting old.
I'm wagering you don't live in the USA.
In fact, it's a very GOOD thing to give such disenfranchised people a COMMUNITY.
But it's so much more fun to point out your hypocrisy and lack of understanding.
I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. - Richard Dawkins
If you love God, burn a church! - Jello Biafra
“Fear is just another word for ignorance. - Hunter S. Thompson
My hypothesis gains strength.
Will: no gyration without funkstification.
I'm not young, not American and I don't hate religious types. disagreeing, dis-ing or just plain pissing off someone is not hatred. And I manage to piss off fellow athiest as well, it can be fun.
There is a whole world out there and you can talk to meny of them right here, Canadians, South Africans, Danes, Finns and meny more... By the way if we don't speak up religious types figure they run the world and can do anything they want with us.
jeffrick
Hate is a better emotion than desperation or futility.
Hanging out here gives me a sense that I am not alone. (I'm not, as my wife is also an atheist, but you probably understand what I mean.) I have other folks I can interact with who understand a fundamental truth, unlike the dozens of other folks I interact with every week.
Plus, it's fun. It has a frontier feel, like Slashdot had 8 years ago. There's raw discussion, rather than random interactions. The conversation is intelligent, sustained, and interesting. This is unlike almost any other website I've discovered. It's certainly the first one in a long time in which I'm interested.
And your observation of hate seems a bit misplaced. I've seen very little real hate. Perhaps there's a little anger once in a while, but that's born of the frustration I mentioned. It's frustrating dealing with people who refuse to understand what you are saying, while insisting you misunderstand them, or you'd believe just as they do.
As for the CIA: perhaps the RRS is a CIA front to help distract young, intelligent, vocal people. Maybe they don't want us over on some of the "whackjob conspiracy sites" so we don't discover the real truth of how the CIA hasn't shut down MK-ULTRA, and they are still experimenting on mind control and psychological warfare, and bigfoot and chemtrails are all a part of it.
Ultimately we are all alone with our inner dialogue...and in the end you will certainly face death alone.
If you cannot be happy when alone, then you can never be happy. What is happy? Being content with being alone, working on being more than you are, blasting through life at warp speed yet still be able to smell the flowers, living a truthful life (ie don't bullshit yourself), living in such a manner so that if you die spontaneously and are fortunate enough to have a last thought, that thought will be the satisfying realization the time that you had was not wasted....you know, that kinda obvous stuff.
The other people are merely distraction or icing on the cake depending on the individual(s), the circumstance, what you make of it...you know...all the obvious stuff.
Oh, and someone said I have been a member for four months....I just opened the account on June 1, 2008.
I'm not really sure what this has to do with anything?
Faith is the brush that paints pictures of ghosts upon the canvas of fear to be hung in the gallery of ignorance.
Oh nurse...
nurse?
Did one of you leave the door to the padded room unlocked again?
There's a cheerful thought. Thanks for that.
Man is more of a social animal than that, surely.
Will: no gyration without funkstification.
Is it just me or does this have all the earmarks of a "theist playing atheist" post?
It reads like "I'm an atheist just like you. Because I'm an atheist, my life has no meaning just like yours. Why do we as atheists bother talking to people and putting our positions out there? Gawd, Kelly is HAWT!"
I admit I pared down the patronizing vocabulary a bit but I think I got the gist.
Then why does it say Feb 16 under your name?
Faith is the brush that paints pictures of ghosts upon the canvas of fear to be hung in the gallery of ignorance.
wanting to see future generations unburdened by the ignorance, bigotry, violence and oppression that goes hand-in-hand with most religious zeal is anything but hateful, nor a waste of a life. if previous generations had tried harder to do the same we might all be closer to a point in human history where the debate is irrelevant.
posting on this site is a mere fraction of my time. the rest is spent living my life to it's fullest with my family. having the knowledge that a wrong is being committed and feeling that typing a few words on a forum is too much to ask? that's the epitome of apathy, and it's pathetic and lame.
don't "hate" the fact that we choose to be more than mindless spectators.
www.derekneibarger.com http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=djneibarger "all postures of submission and surrender should be part of our prehistory." -christopher hitchens
Thoughtful people are an oddity everywhere. Travel more and see for yourself.
So our aforementioned "thoughtfulness" is emotional indulgence? Even if so, why is that a waste of time? Art and love are quite emotionally indulgent, for that matter.
There is utility in discussing atheism/skepticism even with those who agree with you. Also, theists are welcome to come here, read the material and think about it.
It is dangerous to equate any ideological position with 'strong' or 'smart.' There are strong and smart believers as well as dimwitted and craven unbelievers when it comes to all kinds of ideas.
Some things deserve hate; hate is the appropriate response thereto.
Your absence is no doubt agonizing to them.
CIA? You piker. God works with The Shop.
Unless you die in the company of others, which frequently does happen.
Thank you for flunking Psych 101. Please re-enroll and try again.
Your forgot the parts about seeing your enemies driven before you and hearing the lamentations of their women.
I suspect the term you're looking for is "sociopath."
Boards don't hit back. (Bruce Lee)
LOL...this seems like an excellent post to start a flame war. As for the content of your critique, Viper, many points are completely baseless.
This quote "People smart enough and strong enough to accept our aloneness in the universe already understand, those adults that have not and cannot embrace the idea of a godless universe will never understand. So what?!" is patently false.
This is saying anyone who believes in God is A. and idiot and B. weak. While that might be true for some fundamentalists, it is incredibly untrue generalizing on the whole. Ultimately, that is what most atheist groups are banking on. That repeated dissemination of information and knowledge to those who were indoctrinated, denied scientific knowledge, or simply haven't questioned themselves on why they believe what they believe is a mixed bag process, but it does work. How well it works using the RRS's tactics, or any other strategy can be debated. Saying this is a worthless endeavor, is really putting your head in the sand. Obviously religion and irrational beliefs have very real, often very negative consequences. I won't rehash them here, but merely state that the reason for the website is self evident.
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda
you folk are easily riled...if ya wanna live happy lives thicker skin is advised.
The reason for the existence of the website is of little interest to me. The beliefs, observations, analysis of histories obvious wrong doings are not new to the world, only to you young'ns. Every generation gets pissed and pouts. It's like you first discovered masturbation, it felt good, was in no way really dangerous, thus you masturbate your asses off. Same with God and how religion pisses you off...it feels good to rant and whine, is not really dangerous, so you mentally masturbate your asses off.
Generation after generation after generation ad nauseam...situation normal. In the end you DO die alone, even if surrounded by the multittudes ya gotta face the reaper by yourself.
I assure you,I've seen enough of this to not get riled by it.It makes no difference to my life.
Thanks for sharing your centuries of experience.I have to wonder,if this site is of so little interest to you,why do you keep posting on it?
I fear nothing from death.It's a shame you feel so morbid and depressed about it.
Loc'n'Load
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
You need to learn the difference between "riled" and "amused by your foolishness".
I thought you yung'ns only gained amusement from ridiculing religious types. I say this because I watched Kelly and some old looking guy playing word association games with that English book writing guy, and Kelly and the old guy laughed like ten year olds at the book writing guys associated words.
I get the sense that you all think that you're smarter than all of us pedestrian types...I'll bet you're all political "progressives".
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First off, thanks for calling me a young'un. Me, I get amusement from all sorts of things - including people who act like asses when they try to play someone they're not. As an actor, I like seeing that but it has to be done well.
*yawns*
Science. It works, bitches.
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day."
Douglas Adams
Such an effort to appear disinterested or nonplused is a transparent veil hiding boundless rage. you uber athiests are just one issue short of going postal.
I'm not particulary impressed with your play on the english language. Can I label myself an "uber" atheist? That would be briefly entertaining. However, until you bring me an argument that I can consider I just find you boring.
"Smarter?" What does that mean? More intelligent? More knowledgeable? If you have more knowledge please provide us that. If you claim more intelligence then also provide the knowledge and then tell us why you derive certain opinions based on that knowledge. I don't know how I can qualify as "smarter" than anyone else.
You may assume me ignorant, (And I really hope that my use of the word "assume" just pissed you off) however, I assure you that I will grant intellectual honesty to any opinion you put forth.
Science. It works, bitches.
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day."
Douglas Adams
How about a dry sense of humour? Or irony?
Thanks again for that. Duly noted. And do you figure the reaper is a glass-half-empty guy or glass-half-full? If I have to have a chat with this guy, I don't want to get off on the wrong foot and have that awkward joke hanging over both our heads.
"So you're the grim reaper, eh?"
"Well, I'm not really that grim."
*crickets*
"Holy shit, dude. How old are you? Are you going to be that literal through this whole thing?"
"It's just that ... I never learned to read!"
(Did I seriously just give the grim reaper a Wayne's World Oscar? It's time for bed.)
Will: no gyration without funkstification.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I am a literalist. I literally believe the glass to be half full and half empty at the same time, cuz that's the literal reality of something being halved.
I am not going to present an argument for or against the existence of dieity for you to debate. I know you are masters of debate, and even though i too am a pathological masturdebator, i am too tired from my last session. Anyway, I could not possibly care less if god exists or not...NOT(Yeah Yeah Yeah, one can always care less if you want to get literal about it.)!
However, i am just here to remind you that you ARE wasting life's precious time in a spin your wheels debate over a non issue. Yeah Yeah Yeah, religions start wars...get over it. Real estate has started more wars than mans emotionalized insanity over religion. Man likes to blow shit up, slice one another up, Dominate one another...it's what we do best.
A quick asisde...speaking of Dominate...dayummm, Kelly would make an impressive Dominatrix and could work that connection with satanic forces to her advantage getting inside my head..errrr, i mean the head of those perverse sexual submissive types.
So for those of you craving an "intellectual" argument, ya better seek out the "intelligent design types"...cuz the concept of god is too uninteresting to invest time in for this old geezer. If he/she/it exists, he/she/it has one oblique sense of humor...i mean spinabifida and hydrocephally and children abducted by sociopathic athiests is just too freak'n funny for words...donyathink? Yup, if god exists in any of the emotionalized forms that mankind worships...then we are sooooo screwed and i won't give the prick the satisfaction of argument. Is that glass half empty thinking?
It's time to move on boys and gurls. Gotta find me a Kelly look alike and beg to be her out of the closet cuckold.
"Hate"? In what context?
I only speak for myself here. I "hate" absurd claims. If someone claimed that Santa was real and they were 45 years old, should I coddle such an absurdity, or should I tell them the truth? Telling the truth without sugar coating life does not mean you hate someone.
Get over your pathetic PC crap. I hate it when theists pull