The Burden of Proof (for God)

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The Burden of Proof (for God)

Why is it on us? We're not the ones making fantastical claims that can't be proven. If I were tell you there's a leprechaun living underneath my house, is the burden of proof on you to prove that there isn't one or is it on me to prove that there is?

And as far as evolution goes we have the evidence, but apparently it's never enough. Creationists keep pointing to gaps in the fossil record despite the fact that evolution would still be proven if there wasn't a single fossil to be found. I'm sick of creationists asking for evidence, me showing it to them, them asking for more evidence, me showing it to them,  them leaving the forum, another creationist coming in and asking for evidence, and so on. It never ends. I'm sure there's other people here that have had the same experience and I say we stop wasting our time posting and re-posting evidence and ask them for their evidence.


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amnesiac12 wrote:Why is it

amnesiac12 wrote:

Why is it on us?

It isn't. Ever. Any theist that claims it is is Shifting The Burden of Proof.They are making the positive claim,they are obligated to provide the evidence.

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

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This is getting redudnant. My patience with the unteachable[atheists] is limited.

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We do keep asking them for

We do keep asking them for their evidence. Unfortunately they seem unable to understand burden of proof.

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My stock answer to this

My stock answer to this particular stupidity:

 

A rational person accepts fact as evidence for something, and then attempts to deduce the something.

 

An irrational person accepts something as fact and only then thinks about evidence

 

Which are you?

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Betrand Russell's teapot

Betrand Russell's teapot example explains why, or at least it should to anyone with one neuron, why the burden of proof is always on the claimant.

The nuts and bolts of it are:

"You cant disprove it, so it is true by default|" is a fallacy because if we were to literally take that position about all claims on any issue, then we would have to believe anything ever uttered in human history.

 

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Quote:If I were tell you

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If I were tell you there's a leprechaun living underneath my house,
  If you're 3 years old and afraid to go to bed, the burden of proof that there is no leprechaun is indeed on your parents, otherwise the burden of proof is always on the positive.  If you as an atheist are carrying the burden of proof it is because the theist you are conversing with are childish.  At least that's how I see it.

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