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Ahh. Jack T. Chick; he of the giant, enthroned man in a robe and a head blazing with light. I say without any irony that he is one of my favorite Americans, much in the same way that film critic Michael J. Nelson says that Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze is one the greatest American films. I could not be an earnest atheist without Jack Chick's example. He taught me that if you want to change people's minds, you have to be willing to offend them. My current avatar is from Jack's latest tract, actually.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
I'd be irritable, too, if all I got to do all day is sit around in a big chair and think of reasons to oppress people. Apparently finding your own meaning in life is offensive to God...what's next?
Lazy is a word we use when someone isn't doing what we want them to do.
- Dr. Joy Brown
What makes God so irritable? Same thing that makes Allah and Yahwey irritable, we humans are not playing a good enough game of "king of the hill". Daddy wants his world dominance and we are not giving it to him fast enough.
Loc killing kittens is okay if you do it the right way; grilled softly over brickets to the right degree of tender juiciness and splashed with garlic salt. Two scoops of mashed potato and a side of fries; red wine at room temprature; and heaven just entered my taste buds. mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmm god,,,,,,,,,,,,, er good.
that would go a long way to explain why he is always over compensating in the bible and being a general prick. He can't get it up so he has to take every one else down.
step 1: everyone in this forum stops posting
step 2: find a monkey and stick him in a sack
step 3: get 6 nail guns and 50 KG's(110 Lbs)of cheese
step 4: scope out neighborhood and surrounding areas for suitable human shields
step 5: ????
step 6: PROFIT!
<VF> <DA> <MS>
Oh no... it must me Destro, but it looks like he's found a way to grow to gigantic proportions. Looks like we need some Real American Heroes!
Yo Joe!
Fuck you, Cobra!
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
If Mr. Clean decided to torture theists for all eternity for believing in superstition, I think most atheist would tell him this is wrong and he should give them another chance. I don't think we'd praise him and tell him what a great guy he is.
But if the theists are right and us atheist are going to be tortured for all eternity, Theists would say "we got what we deserved" and go on praising Gawd for ever and ever. Amen.
And we're the one's without morality or concern for our fellow man? Explain this one Theists.
If Mr. Clean decided to torture theists for all eternity for believing in superstition, I think most atheist would tell him this is wrong and he should give them another chance. I don't think we'd praise him and tell him what a great guy he is.
But as we atheists have no objective basis for morality and justice, Mr. Clean doesn't have to regard our arbitrary opinions about right and wrong.
BTW, christians don't seem to understand their own argument against atheism. If atheists don't believe in moral absolutes, then we don't believe in the "opposite absolutes," either, that allegedly require us to obey atheistic dictators and kill innnocent people.
But as we atheists have no objective basis for morality and justice,
Sure we have a basis for morality and justice, mutually beneficial relationships with fellow human beings to ensure our mutual survival and enjoyment of life. We have(or at least should have) a relationship whereby we would have others treat us as we wish to be treated, this social contract is to the benefit of all.
People would naturally gravitate toward following this golden rule without religion. Because if humans do follow it, we can accomplish great things. When we don't follow it, we destroy ourselves with war and poverty.
But see in Christianity, you really don't follow the golden rule anymore. You only fake doing so sometimes to avoid Hell and get Heaven. The only real morality of Christianity is 'Might makes Right'. So if Gawd sends atheists to Hell, Christians have no problem with it. God says eternal torture is OK and he's got the power, so Christians have no problem not following the golden rule in this case.
AdvancedAtheist wrote:
Mr. Clean doesn't have to regard our arbitrary opinions about right and wrong.
But if Mr. Clean thinks I'm going to love someone that tortures people, he's wrong. So, if Mr. Clean demands that I praise him as the Christian God does, he better not be into torture. It's like a sign my X-boss had in his office:
"The beatings will continue until moral improves".
Threatening people with torture can not make them love you as the Christian God demands.
But as we atheists have no objective basis for morality and justice,
Christians don't have a basis for morality either. They have a guess on a gamble that won't ever be cashed.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
Anger is a response to enable animals to deal with threats.
An all powerful entity cannot be threatened.
I think it was pretty clear that he was threatened by Adam's awesome package.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
But as we atheists have no objective basis for morality and justice, Mr. Clean doesn't have to regard our arbitrary opinions about right and wrong.
Objective standards...
Our economy, our use of paper money depends in it's entirity on our shared willingness to impart value to pieces of paper. Beyond that, most of our wealth lies in bits and bytes of binary code, in other words, we have mutually agreed to an artificial system defining what 'money' is.
In the same way, our species has derived an understanding, a codification of the subjective, instinctive need to keep the tribe safe and homogenous, a morality, a code of conduct.
Certainly, it's subjective. Like most of the nil-fun truths of existence, there is no objective all inclusive standard to go by. We're winging it here...
It doesn't make it less real.
Just because a C-note has no more intrinsic value than a coupon for 25 cents off a jar of pickles, I'll still stoop to pick up the Benjamin.
LC >;-}>
Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacrements of canibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.
Who's the guy in sitting in the big chair?
Mr. Clean obviously...the bald head gave him away.
It's Mel Gibson from Man Without a Face.
Sapient.
LOL is this supposed to be a Chick tract parody?
Ahh. Jack T. Chick; he of the giant, enthroned man in a robe and a head blazing with light. I say without any irony that he is one of my favorite Americans, much in the same way that film critic Michael J. Nelson says that Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze is one the greatest American films. I could not be an earnest atheist without Jack Chick's example. He taught me that if you want to change people's minds, you have to be willing to offend them. My current avatar is from Jack's latest tract, actually.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
I'd be irritable, too, if all I got to do all day is sit around in a big chair and think of reasons to oppress people. Apparently finding your own meaning in life is offensive to God...what's next?
Lazy is a word we use when someone isn't doing what we want them to do.
- Dr. Joy Brown
I meant it to suggest that pestering god to give your life meaning pisses it off.
What makes God so irritable? Same thing that makes Allah and Yahwey irritable, we humans are not playing a good enough game of "king of the hill". Daddy wants his world dominance and we are not giving it to him fast enough.
Contact all the 08 Presidental candidates and remind them of their Constitutional duty to uphold "no religious test" www.rationalresponders.com/forum/sapient/news_activism/8955
He got herpes from the "virgin" Mary.
He keeps having to kill kittens.
Loc killing kittens is okay if you do it the right way; grilled softly over brickets to the right degree of tender juiciness and splashed with garlic salt. Two scoops of mashed potato and a side of fries; red wine at room temprature; and heaven just entered my taste buds. mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmm god,,,,,,,,,,,,, er good.
jeffrick
Hemerrhoids from receiving too much anal sex.
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
God made the herpes virus in his own image.
Well actually since the church decieded the doctrine of the Trinity is true, then he became a MotherFucker.
God must have started out as an alter boy and worked his way up.
Stop global whining.
Erectile dysfunction!
that would go a long way to explain why he is always over compensating in the bible and being a general prick. He can't get it up so he has to take every one else down.
step 1: everyone in this forum stops posting
step 2: find a monkey and stick him in a sack
step 3: get 6 nail guns and 50 KG's(110 Lbs)of cheese
step 4: scope out neighborhood and surrounding areas for suitable human shields
step 5: ????
step 6: PROFIT!
<VF> <DA> <MS>
A god angered?
Anger is a response to enable animals to deal with threats.
An all powerful entity cannot be threatened.
I'm atheist
Oh no... it must me Destro, but it looks like he's found a way to grow to gigantic proportions. Looks like we need some Real American Heroes!
Yo Joe!
Fuck you, Cobra!
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
Communicate at your own risk.
Here's what gets me about this scenario.
If Mr. Clean decided to torture theists for all eternity for believing in superstition, I think most atheist would tell him this is wrong and he should give them another chance. I don't think we'd praise him and tell him what a great guy he is.
But if the theists are right and us atheist are going to be tortured for all eternity, Theists would say "we got what we deserved" and go on praising Gawd for ever and ever. Amen.
And we're the one's without morality or concern for our fellow man? Explain this one Theists.
Stop global whining.
But as we atheists have no objective basis for morality and justice, Mr. Clean doesn't have to regard our arbitrary opinions about right and wrong.
BTW, christians don't seem to understand their own argument against atheism. If atheists don't believe in moral absolutes, then we don't believe in the "opposite absolutes," either, that allegedly require us to obey atheistic dictators and kill innnocent people.
Sure we have a basis for morality and justice, mutually beneficial relationships with fellow human beings to ensure our mutual survival and enjoyment of life. We have(or at least should have) a relationship whereby we would have others treat us as we wish to be treated, this social contract is to the benefit of all.
People would naturally gravitate toward following this golden rule without religion. Because if humans do follow it, we can accomplish great things. When we don't follow it, we destroy ourselves with war and poverty.
But see in Christianity, you really don't follow the golden rule anymore. You only fake doing so sometimes to avoid Hell and get Heaven. The only real morality of Christianity is 'Might makes Right'. So if Gawd sends atheists to Hell, Christians have no problem with it. God says eternal torture is OK and he's got the power, so Christians have no problem not following the golden rule in this case.
But if Mr. Clean thinks I'm going to love someone that tortures people, he's wrong. So, if Mr. Clean demands that I praise him as the Christian God does, he better not be into torture. It's like a sign my X-boss had in his office:
"The beatings will continue until moral improves".
Threatening people with torture can not make them love you as the Christian God demands.
Stop global whining.
Christians don't have a basis for morality either. They have a guess on a gamble that won't ever be cashed.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
I think it was pretty clear that he was threatened by Adam's awesome package.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
Objective standards...
Our economy, our use of paper money depends in it's entirity on our shared willingness to impart value to pieces of paper. Beyond that, most of our wealth lies in bits and bytes of binary code, in other words, we have mutually agreed to an artificial system defining what 'money' is.
In the same way, our species has derived an understanding, a codification of the subjective, instinctive need to keep the tribe safe and homogenous, a morality, a code of conduct.
Certainly, it's subjective. Like most of the nil-fun truths of existence, there is no objective all inclusive standard to go by. We're winging it here...
It doesn't make it less real.
Just because a C-note has no more intrinsic value than a coupon for 25 cents off a jar of pickles, I'll still stoop to pick up the Benjamin.
LC >;-}>
Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacrements of canibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.