This Is Not A Scare Tactic
Posted on: May 2, 2008 - 2:26pm
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This Is Not A Scare Tactic
From the description of the video:
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The "Letter from Hell" is from our 2006 lake trip. This is intended for believers as it DOES NOT COMPLETELY DEPICT THE GOSPEL. This is not meant as a scare tactic.
Just remember...
God loves you.
God loves you.
God loves you.
He loves you so much that he would do this to you. It's love. Real love.
Oh, and YOU BETTER CONVERT YOUR FRIENDS OR THEY'RE GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!! GOD LOVES YOU!!!!!!! YOUR FRIENDS ARE GOING TO DIE!!!! FOREVER!!!!!!
God loves you.
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- H. G. Wells
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Now, after seeing this, I'd better force myself love God to avoid his wrath. I hope I can fool the all powerful, all knowing God into believing I don't think he's a big Dick.
Stop global whining.
Wow, was Zack dictating that letter to someone to send to his friend as the Angels took him, or is he just talented at writing and multitasking while having his eternal torment meeted out?
That was horrible. If those are the kind of things that group of people comes up on lake trips, I sure would hate to see what kind of mental abuse they can inflict on Sundays. I am glad they didn't make Zack a bad guy, he just didn't know about Jesus(yeah right) and he thought he would end up in a fuzzy, foggy place...wtf? I like that they implied you could still be a decent person and burn eternally for not knowin about JC, too many apologetics are getting away from this serious mindfuck of a problem. God would knowingly send someone to hell that had no knowledge of his son, and then guilt his friend into believing it was his fault. Well...I'm sold, sign me up, this God sounds like a pretty tough club owner, and his thuggish Angel bouncers don't take any shit if your not on the list. Who knew Heaven was like an exclusive nightclub, where you have to know JC to get VIP access. I guess I better start networking.
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda
Wow.
Drama club and youth group don't mix very well.
Wasn't this posted before a while back? And I call epic bullshit on it not being a scare tactic.
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
No kidding. Creepy.
The theology behind my own position is that you only get sent to hell if it's what you actually would prefer over submission to God.
That said... the video sucks. It's so over-done and emotive that it fails to even be a scare-tactic. It's just... theological vomit. (This coming from a Theist.)
Doom 3 was awesome (and could have been even better.) This... just...sucks....
I need to get in touch with these GodTube people. Christians have had been given a bad enough reputation in secular eyes already. We don't need PR this...hideous...circulating over the internet by over-zealous teens.
"Truth is the cry of all, but the game of the few." George Berkeley
"Truth is always strange — stranger than fiction." Lord Byron
Fixing the world, one dumb idea at a time.
That's fucking insane.
Seriously, I mean you would have to be bat shit crazy to do such a thing. We've been here before. If what you believe is true, then only insane people go to hell.
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- H. G. Wells
jeffrick
Huh. See you guys in hell. Pretty sure it's going to be awesome, since all of the people I like are going there.
I'm going to guess that you'll have just as much difficulty squishing memes like this as we do.
Will: no gyration without funkstification.
Yeah, so all those isolated indigenous people who have not yet been approached by Christian missionaries, all the babies who die before they're old enough to even know how to speak ... I guess they will burn in Hell for eternity because they did not know our loving, just, and merciful God. That must be a comforting thought for any Christian whose child died of SIDS.
"The Bible looks like it started out as a game of Mad Libs" - Bill Maher
Pretty much. The problem is that insanity is far more common than you'd think.
This isn't a meme. It's an embodiment of what happens when someone takes spurring on others to evangelize into their own hands when it isn't what they are intended to do: it backfires to the chagrin of everyone else on their side. (**SIGH**)
Theologically and intentionally, the work is just fine, but the actual production's concept is so poorly simple-minded, single-audience oriented, and otherwise ill conceived that it has the exact opposite effect of what's intended. It would actually make a good satire.
If you want to see a good example of a Christian doing this correctly, check out the Nooma videos (Rob Bell.) The "Store" one is particularly good, and several of them you can view for free on Google Video. (You should hate them every bit as much, but for different reasons.)
What you are looking at here is when someone gets emotive and tries to do something they have no business doing in the first place. Not every Christian is cut out to be a missionary.
"Truth is the cry of all, but the game of the few." George Berkeley
"Truth is always strange — stranger than fiction." Lord Byron
Fixing the world, one dumb idea at a time.
How dead can a person be if they can feel their heart pounding in their chest?
How terrible can Hell be if this histrionic loser managed to find the time to compose this half-assed guilt trip?
I'm going to cry,
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Ok, fine. So, not only does god only send insane people to hell, he sends LOTS of insane people to hell. Really awesome.
Hell, even lowly little humans can figure out that insane people shouldn't be held responsible for their actions in the same way as sane people.
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- H. G. Wells
Whoah, deja vu.
Organised religion is the ultimate form of blasphemy.
... and this crap is basically being preached on "their", the TV 24/7 with no counter opinion. The FCC is the enemy of progress. Why it continues baffles and infuriates me .... What to do ? I AM surprised by the lack of indignant bloggers etc regarding this huge problem of bias and mass brainwashing. I'm not so much saying kick anything off the TV, but rather where's the rest of it, the balance, for damn sakes .....
It must have to do with the fact I never took the 'Hell' concept seriously.
Every video like this one makes me start into a fit of laughing. I think it's so fucking hilarious...
"What if your friend went to Hell!?"
They may was well be asking,
"What if your bed was sheltering a monster!?"
...Oh, man. Post more, please. I need the laughs tonight.
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
Communicate at your own risk.
Then what the Hell would the point of the whole process even be, then? Certainly that takes the 'justice' angle right out of it, and it completely smashes the notion that there's a purpose to spreading the Christian religion.
If I die and God basically says, "Okay, here's the deal: you either say you're my bitch, or I toss you in the Lake of Fire," the entire religion falls on it's face at a foundational level.
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
Communicate at your own risk.
HAHAHA Ridicules , loved it XD. WTF Is the problem if god is going to send me to hell I’m going to commend god to obey me and send me to hell or I’m going to fucken kill him . Na what is going this god do obey me or send me into haven ?
Warning I’m not a native English speaker.
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Honest to God, the guy sounds like he got ahold of a bad hit of acid, hallucinated his death, and is saying all this to his friend, who he thinks is still on earth, when in reality, they're both sitting in his room. "But duuuude, I'm right here!"
I fail to see how God dictates who is lost and who is saved has anything to do with "religion falling on its face at a foundational level." Religion has very little to do with salvation per say, but rather truth and the assumption that with an understanding of that truth a salvation of some nature will follow.
PS: hambydammit, please note that Kevin R Brown's wording here indicates that he would take the insane option. Like I said, insanity is much more common than you'd think.
"Truth is the cry of all, but the game of the few." George Berkeley
"Truth is always strange — stranger than fiction." Lord Byron
Fixing the world, one dumb idea at a time.
Speaking of insanity, salvation is the main tennet of religion - but you claim religion has nothing to do with salvation.
I'm atheist
Obviously you are thinking much more specifically at Christianity than I am. The common thread between ALL religions isn't an assertion of salvation, it's an assertion that that specific religion holds the "truth." Salvation is almost invariably presented as a side-benefit of understanding that truth.
Confucianism, for example, asserts that it has the truth about how to live together in harmony. While it may tread the fine line between religion and philosophy, it is often dealt with as if it were a religion. Confucianism asserts no method of "salvation."
You could say similar (but markedly different) things about many other oriental religions.
EDIT: Why else would my pseudonym be "Sir Valiant for Truth? Why not "Sir Valiant for Salvation?
Besides, all things considered, it makes sense that a Theist would know more about religion than an Atheist would. Sadly, this is not always the case, but I am in a better position to speak about what religion is and isn't than you are.
"Truth is the cry of all, but the game of the few." George Berkeley
"Truth is always strange — stranger than fiction." Lord Byron
Fixing the world, one dumb idea at a time.
And we're in a better position to speak about what religion can and can not accomplish than you are.
Nobody I know was brainwashed into being an atheist.
Why Believe?
...I must've missed the part where the primary goal of religion became something other than saving my soul.
And the last part of your argument remains flattened. We just established that the only important part is telling God that you'll kiss his feet - so how does 'truth' come into it at all?
As for my 'wording' and alleged insanity, I fail to see where I said I'd pick the Lake of Fire option. I don't like the idea of kissing a deity's ass, but if the two options were to brown my nose of burn forever, it's easy enough to say I'd pick the former.
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
Communicate at your own risk.
This argument seems to fly in the face of 'taking a leap of faith' concept so many theists insist upon. No, perhaps not all religions deal with 'salvation' or a savior, but Christianity does, and that's clearly what this thread is dealing with. You yourself are a Christian, aren't you?
CAUTION:
This human being has more accumulated hours playing GI Joes in the bathtub than he has sleeping, owns more polyhedral dice than he does articles of clothing and has invested more money into his personal computer than most people do on their cars.
Communicate at your own risk.
Yes, I am Christian. However, you should be aware that I belong to a rare breed of them commonly referred to as "Calvinists" that hold many views that other Christian denominations think of as...divisive.
Regardless, my statement is still true -even true of Christianity. It just tends to get lost to secular ears against the voices of preachers in haste to make "Altar Calls" to meet their quotas. (Yes, as demented as it may seem, funding in some churches is based on the number of conversions. Does this explain a few things?)
I would agree...IF your community didn't have a "THEISM IS IRRATIONAL, VIEWS OF OUR COMMUNITY." sticky. As that it does it's pretty clear that there's an agenda being pushed here.
"Truth is the cry of all, but the game of the few." George Berkeley
"Truth is always strange — stranger than fiction." Lord Byron
Fixing the world, one dumb idea at a time.
So, one need not experience something to be able to speak authoritatively on it?
Curious thing for you to say...
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- H. G. Wells
I despise that shit. I was raised to believe hell was a real place, and it scared me so bad it kept me awake at nights. That's child abuse. It makes me hate christians who believe it, which sucks because hate is a shitty emotion.
Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first.
Oh wow.Another theist taking this line. Guess what?This is an atheist site. One would think when coming here your wants aren't going to be catered for.
What agenda do you mean? The RRS makes no secret that they think theism is irrational and dangerous.I don't see any secret plans there.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Life is good, and people who believe in afterlife fail to understand this.- Mindcore
Life does piss everyone off .....