seeking the truth
I am new here.
I have been brought up in a religious family all of my life. Now at the ripe old age of 30 I am in much doubt of all I have been taught.
I have never learned much about atheism. All I have ever heard is they believe in nothing which sounded awful to me. However, after much thought I started to wonder if maybe the here and now is all I really have. I am reading as much as I can to learn if there is more to it than what I have been told.
The members here seem to be very knowledgeable. I hope it is ok to ask questions. It seems there is a lot of anger towards people who believe in God and I was a little hesitant to post because of my background and the fact that I am searching for the truth. I do not know what that is yet. I have not sworn off God as of yet but I definately have much to learn.
Do you fear religion, God or both? Many people I know believe in God but do not call themselves religious. They believe religion is from man not from God.
I was thinking that believing this is all we have would be a relief in one way, as the pressure to make it, or be accepted to the next world would be gone. I thought people who believed this would be the carefree happy go lucky type. I haven't sensed that by reading the posts here though. A lot of the post sound angry and resentful. Is that because you fear people who do believe? If so why? Do atheists feel they are responsible to enlighten believers like the believers feel they do to convert atheist? I am somewhat confused as you can tell.
I have many questions but I know as a new member I should read all I can. I have read a lot but have much more to read.
Please be gentle with me. I promise my questions are asked in pure ignorance of your beliefs.
I guess it wan't you who asked what my objection to homosexuals marrying was. This is not a personal thing. As I said I was just curious why such anger over a term. I just want to be clear I am not here to judge but to learn. That doesn't mean I won't say what I am thinking polietly of course. What is the point of a discussion if I can't speak honestly and openly. Having said that I still think the word marriage is just that a word. I think I would put my energies somewhere else but that is me.
Thanks for clearing that up. I realized it wasn't you who said that. I want to be able to discuss openly.
I think, Hunter, that it's because of the implied discrimination. What purpose does it serve to come up with a new term for it except to say 'YOU can't have what WE have'? Marriage is a social contract between two adults, giving them social rights, property rights, and legal rights with regard to one another. The list of what benefits spouses gain is long and involved, and often complex enough that it takes multiple fighting lawyers to answer simple questions. So if a new term were coined, it would need to either be defined as 'the same as marriage', which would defeat the purpose of having a new term to begin with, or you'd need a long process to establish each and every thing the same.
But far, far more important, as near as I can tell, is that implied discrimination. It's a way to exclude people from having the same thing that those in power have, and it never actually creates equality. It just creates resentment among the people who are expected to be happy that they're not being allowed into the 'cool club', and resentment and anger among the folks who think they're being magnanimous and wonder why 'those people' are never satisfied. Separate But Equal sound familiar?
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." - The Waco Kid