A Nice Break From The Haters

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A Nice Break From The Haters

It seems there are people who appreciate Rook, whether he has a degree or not.  Thanks, Kenneth!

 

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Kenneth sent a letter using the contact form:

Hi! Thank Goodness for people like you guys and gals.I'am sooo glad I
found this site,Great Job. Anyway,as I'am typeing this I'am Listening too
Rook Hawkins give his lecture on jesus mythicism and reading his blog ,and
I was wondering if he ever read Howard Zinn book "A People's History
of the United States,or Noam Chomsky many books like" Manufacturing
Consent",also Necessary Illusions"and Fritz Stern a very good
Historian and I almost forgot another great Historian,Scientist -Jared
Diamond book "Gun's Germ's and Steel"the Fate of Human societies
and Derrick Jensen book "The Culture of Make Believe" he can be a
little difficult to read,because he keep it REAL,take care and keep up this
very good noble work.

 

Kenneth, I can't speak for Rook, but I've read People's History and Guns, Germs and Steel.  Both are very well written, and great resources.  Thanks again for your words of support.

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yeah, Rook is friend of

  yeah, Rook is a friend of humanity, and a friend of my god of Me and You and IT and Everything .....  "God of (abe) Is Not Great",  but I AM ! So when I stink , it's all in the name of evolution,  doing it's godly thing .....  Got perfume ?  .....  "smells good" .....  ( Hamby wrote about smell )

,  btw, read all Hamby's cool essays. Be extra nice to yourselves. 

This is another fun guy,  "ABOLITION OF WORK"  by Bob Black   ..... a good read and in  podcast too ..... a cult fav .....

wow I AM IN AWE !  no lying to GAWD ! Thanks , and fuck you god too !    Who is confused? ...... me GOD, that's for damn sure .....      What is possible ??? 

Go Rook, helping fix our confused history, Go Science, exploring this reality .....  Moving on from God of Abe ..... faster please ..... in the name of FUN for ALL ! WE are doing it ..... Imagine !  ..... shezzzz,  praying abe dogma is devil shit ..... fuck that ....

How much longer will it take to "save" the Christians etc ?  Jesus tried, but failed for the most part .....  the Devil is tough ! Killing him is hard "blessed" work , and so in the name of fun and love I AM a dedicated ATHEIST.     KIll god of abe now ,  in the name of love ..... YOU .

  


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I've noticed that lately I

I've noticed that lately I am making perfect sense out of IAMGAY's posts.  I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this development or not.


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  Evolution Rocks .....

  Evolution Rocks ..... it's me !

Now kill the "old me" and move further ahead ! But where are we going ???  

Words are a bitch , our language is words.   I got a word for ya,  GOD !     Wow , I am in AWE !  I am AWAKE ...... sorta kinda .....  I know there is more from where this all came  .....    flying in slow mode , it's all relative ! Relaxe, no worrys .....


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Mr. Atheist wrote:I've

Mr. Atheist wrote:

I've noticed that lately I am making perfect sense out of IAMGAY's posts.  I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this development or not.

A few people have mentioned that.It must be some sort of apocalyptic sign.

Hay IAMGAY, keep evolving!

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

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This is getting redudnant. My patience with the unteachable[atheists] is limited.

Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.


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Just out of curiosity, why

Just out of curiosity, why is it IAMGAY and not IAGAY?


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Fish wrote:Just out of

Fish wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why is it IAMGAY and not IAGAY?

Actually I was wondering that myself.I just went with the common consensus.

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

dudeofthemoment wrote:
This is getting redudnant. My patience with the unteachable[atheists] is limited.

Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.


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hmmmm.....the jokes i could

hmmmm.....the jokes i could make from that one.

IAMGAY VS. IAGAY .....interesting stuff.

correct me if i am wrong but int the proper way to shorten something to a series of letters to leave am, it, or ,etc. as only one letter. not the whole word.

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We actually had the iamgay

We actually had the iamgay discussion in another thread a few months ago.  I don't think our Buddha friend has a preference either way though as his sexual orientation seems pretty clear. Eye-wink


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Rook is a great thinker, to

Rook is a great thinker, to override  beyond warm and fuzzies of theistic dogma and he has the history to back it up.


 

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I AM, just had to say,

 I AM,  just had to say, 

"reading" me is not always easy for me as well ..... I just can't get a good handle on any of this  .....  you know ,  the NOW !   the  WHY !  the HOW !   ..... but I promise you all,  I AM only trying to help .....     God of abe is certainly not helping !    , except as a lesson of 'more our stupid'  .....  than smarts ..... I love the 'A' Team ! Heal the others ..... as big J philosophy reads ..... an A + idea ..... and thanks very much Rook ..... you is A plus ..... in my "good" book of records .....   


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Heard of this guy?

I came across this website,

http://www.bede.org.uk/jesusmyth.htm

The dude toutes these verses, written by Paul, that "show" specific references to Jesus in the writings1.  The author claims that these verses help the case for a more historical Jesus within Paul's writings. 

  • Jesus was born in human fashion, as a Jew, and had a ministry to the Jews. (Galations 4:4)
  • Jesus was referred to as "Son of God". (1 Cor. 1:9)
  • Jesus was a direct descendent of King David. (Romans 1:3)
  • Jesus prayed to God using the term "abba". (Galations 4:6)
  • Jesus expressly forbid divorce. (1 Cor. 7:10)
  • Jesus taught that "preachers" should be paid for their preaching. (1 Cor. 9:14)
  • Jesus taught about the end-time. (1 Thess. 4:15)
  • Paul refers to Peter by the name Cephas (rock), which was the name Jesus gave to him. (1 Cor. 3:22)
  • Jesus had a brother named James. (Galations 1:19)
  • Jesus initiated the Lord's supper and referred to the bread and the cup. (1 Cor. 11:23-25)
  • Jesus was betrayed on the night of the Lord's Supper. (1 Cor. 11:23-25)
  • Jesus' death was related to the Passover Celebration. (1 Cor. 5:7)
  • The death of Jesus was at the hands of earthly rulers. (1 Cor. 2:8)
  • Jesus underwent abuse and humiliation. (Romans 15:3)
  • Jewish authorities were involved with Jesus' death. (1 Thess. 2:14-16)
  • Jesus died by crucifixion. (2 Cor. 13:4 et al)
  • Jesus was physically buried. (1 Cor. 15:4)

Is their a mythicist explanation for these?  If these verses are answered for in another thread or essay, could anyone point me there?  If this is small potatoes then 'my bad', I have only been reading about mythicism for less than a month.  Thanks.

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -Christopher Hitchens


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Quote:Is their a mythicist

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Is their a mythicist explanation for these?

Yeah.

Paul was not a contemporary of Jesus.  These quotes actually support mythicism, since Paul never bothers to tell us about any outside corroboration that has since turned up, or has any historicity.

If you want to get more specific, Paul's writings appear to be representative of a dichotomy among early pre-Christian cults, where the earliest believed in a heavenly Jesus who didn't actually live on earth, and the later ones who extrapolated an actual person.

Furthermore, the reference to Peter is pretty meaningless, because the books attributed to Peter in the bible are not contemporary either.

As for all that other stuff, there's nothing compelling about any of it.  Essentially, all it proves is that some of the biblical writers had read books by other writers and incorporated elements into their own books.  We don't think it's particularly amazing that lots of people have written about King Arthur, after all.  Only when you assume that people didn't read each other and copy does the bible appear to have any mystical significance.

 

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