Your love for 'jesus' is just a love for your own mind. You aren't truly asking jesus for guidance when something goes wrong, you are looking into  your own mind to find the right life experience that you can apply a solution to. If you don't have one you open a bible and find one to help you. Ultimate self help.

-Renee

So. This is likely to go really well, then.

Surely you will now cast aside the veil so long thwarting human eyes from seeing the evidence of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, so that we can finally bask in His glory and leave our foolish, sinful notions of 'logic' behind... 

Yes, yes... Here it COMES! The final moment of truth and clarity I've been waiting for!

Hold your tongue no longer, sir!

...I really shouldn't get my hopes all built-up like that.

While, to be fair, you did state that this was a statement (rather than an argument), this post is just so much fire-and-brimstone preaching and largely a waste of space.

If you don't like evidence, and demands for it to support claims, fine.

Unfortunately for you, however - you're the one going to Hell. That's right. You.

And if my mood hasn't improved by the end of the day, I might condemn your family there to keep you company for your eternity of torture (because I love you).

Yep. You guessed it. I'm God. Your whole life up to this point has been an elaborate ploy to get bring you into communication with Me, right here, at this junction. And you failed My test.

What test?

It's part of My greater, mysterious plan for the universe, I'm afraid - so you can never know it. Suffice it to say that you didn't pass, and that was your entry requirement for ascending into My Kingdom once your time on Earth has ended.

Better luck next eternity.

I agree with goddess Renee, "Jesus Philosophy" is not the Christian one of "self separation" from the "God concept of ONE". I AM JESUS AS YOU ..... why is that so hard to understand ??? Yeah So many "liers" for so many reasons .....

 Forgive them, for they do not know what they do .... they really don't get it  

In the glorious name of the true "Jesus Christ" message, heal the enemy, those confused Christians and all "god of abe" fans ....  

To be a Christian is to be against the "GOD" teachings of Jesus .... Clever Devil Saul/Paul etc etc etc have done a bang up job of  distortion conspiracy.

The religious are the Devil's fools .....    Wake Up !    

Yeah Doomed, torture the fucker, stick The Pear up his ass:

He and obviously any xtian who tries to preach *their* abstraction of Jesus paid but lip service if any at all to Matthew 6:5-6.

Now that truly is the afterlife from hell. I wouldn't trade a good laid or even a cold beer in exchange of all the religious teachings of the world.

Now seriously, where's my bong?

Kind of like a couple in love, that swear they will be together no matter what. I've seen a quite of few of them at each others throats a few years later. You will give everything to Jesus and get nothing in return(cause he never existed). That will get old eventually. Try staying in love with someone that you never see, hear or touch. You're in love with a fantacy.

Just like people who are married to someone that shows no devotion or affection in return. Eventually, you will either go to church and go through the motions of "beliving"(humans are creatures of habit), or you will see the light of reality and the real truth will set you free.

No, it's cause so called Christians don't even follow their own bibles. They use political power and the police to force their values on the rest of soceity. This violates the teachings of the NT, but Christians don't care about the truth they have another agenda.

To be who you really are. Religion is the ultimate form of Blasphemy because it causes you to continually lie to yourself. If you tell a lie enough, eventually it becomes the truth. That's why in your church you just keep repeating songs about "I believe" over an over until they become the truth in your mind, but not in reality. But I still think deep inside you a part of you that knows it's all BS.

Then ask would you be willing to take a lie detector test to prove this is true and to prove that have no doubt.

I think we know what the results would be. Would you be willing to do this? No, you only have lame excuses cause you know your "faith" is all about lying to yourself.

I doubt that very much. Do you drink deadly poison and pick up snakes as the Gospel of Mark says true believers would do? No, cause you don't really believe and you are very much afraid of death. You pick and choose what is appropriate for you to "believe". Go ahead now make a lame exuse as to why these verses don't apply to your life.

That is quite  revelation. Christians assume jesus will feel the same way about them,constantly send love messages, obsess over his every word..jesus needs a restraining order!

You don't need to start a new paragraph with every sentence.

Seriously.

Okay, we know how much you love Jesus and everything now, sorry you gotta go, come back soon, thanks for sharing...( PDW slams door, shaking head in disbelief )

Greetings,

I thought I had posted here but apparently I mashed two introduction posts together and got confused.

Anyways,  I was wondering why you believe that by saying you're with Jesus you're going to heaven while others who don't believe are going to hell.  Do you consider yourself morally superior or something just because you say you're a Jesus freak? 

What about the knowledge of ethics as well?  I'm sure there are atheists here who are better students of ethics than you are.

Where do you get off judging others is mostly what I am wondering.  Jesus himself said not to judge others lest ye be judged. 

I'm calling you out..  You're falsely prophesying like most all religious people do.

I don't have anything to add about this post, other than to point out how incredibly obnoxious it is. It's a heroic level of comfort with one's own tunnel vision that motivates one to share with others the most insipid, unimaginative, uninteresting kind of bland sloganeering displayed here. It's just -- what kind of barren mind could entertain this incoherent garbage?

I'm not going to 'pick it apart' looking for any kind of little technical crap to scream 'gotcha' over... I'm actually going to ask you some very simple questions.

First, to point out the relative bits.:

and

and finally,

So, here are my questions:

If you believe in God purely out of a deep, all-consuming love for Jesus Christ, why are you looking for what the 'advantages' of belief or non-belief are?

Why do you care if you'll live eternally? Why does a fear of death factor into your love at all?

If anything, the fact that you seem to think eternal life and avoiding the fires of hell is at all significant would seem to me to indicate that you do fear death, be it eternal torment or simple nonexistence. Moreover, that your belief appears to be strongly influenced by a desire to seek the 'advantage' of living forever indicates to me that your actions aren't completely irrational at all. Instead, you very much seem to be pursuing a 'what's in it for ME?' goal.

Me, I'm happy that I've had a good life on this Earth for the past 36 years. I may not make 37. I accept that. I'd like to think I've lived my life well... but I can look at it honestly enough to say there's a lot of room for improvement. And if there is a divine entity, and I'm called to stand before them for judgement, I'll thank them for the time I was given, and not ask for anything else. Really, it seems to me that if the Christian God exists, then the majority of Christians are, probably without meaning to be, obnoxious ingrates. God gives you a world, and lifetime to enjoy it, and your response is... to demand more time, in an even better place? That's just rude.

I don't believe God exists. I don't know with any certainty what will happen when I die. If God does exist, and I get sent to hell for all eternity... oh well.

Consider this:

Tomorrow, you could be hit by a car and horribly crippled. You could spend years incapacitated, lose everything you have, everything you hope for. What's more, you know that's a possibility. It's always a possibility.

But knowing that doesn't change how you live at this moment, does it? You do the best you can with the moment you have, and don't worry about the things you can't predict, can't change, can't prevent.

So why is death any different?

If you're praising Jesus and telling yourself how wonderfully you love him, all to escape death... that's not virtue. That's bribery, that's corruption, that's the very essence of vice.

Fuck heaven. Fuck eternal life. Do good without expectation of reward. Good deeds done with an expectation of reward are not good deeds... they're prostitution. Just another business transaction.

  yeah BMcD .... he's got the wrong Jesus , sick Paul etc etc lied .....

    ..... to the OP, Worship is slavery, Respect is quite differnent .... So welcome to the "AWE" , now what ?   ....and btw , the best Jesus was atheist .... "No God before me , we and the father are ONE" ..... did say .....

Read your bible again, and as you do, separate Jesus and the Devil in them words. Read the gnostic books of the same era, not included in the bible book, because it was edited by the devil's helpers, of wrong thinking.  Good / Bad  , oh yes , it's every where, and in that bible of mostly bad bad bad ..... My "Jesus" is indignate regarding the bibles ..... God of Abe is the Devil , check it out, in the BI-BULL , of twin books of mostly B.S. and horror .... mixed with a "but I love you, so I kill" .....

Be Jesus .....  Revolt !  Reject that book  ...... my Jesus would insist .... Even one lie is not acceptable, let alone all the blood sacrifice crap ..... We are One, We are Gawd is the simple truth.  So why all the religion of "separation" crap ????  And spilled BLOOD ?

I know partly , do you ?   .... keep caring ..... but stop lying for the clever devil  of separation .....