The big double edged sword
Hello, I'm new to your board and have been reading some of the fascinating posts on here. I simply cannot wrap my head around a few things that have been bothering me though.
Although I am no stranger to christianity or athiesm, I find both terms rather redundant.
See for me, there is no proof for the existence of God and there is no proof that there is no existence of God. This is where we have the double edged sword.
I'm not one for faith, I'm one that allows himself to evolve as he learns. One thing that fascinates me the most about Science and Religion is that they are complete opposites. One requires faith and the other requires facts. This would lead us to ask, what facts do we know about our universe?
Really, we have a lot of theories that somewhat show us what it is that we are looking at. We have the wonderful law of thermodynamics that is near to become extinct with new possibilities of PPM's on the horizon. Quite frankly, everything we know about the universe is based on theory other than mathematics.
Well... Theory in a way requires a certain faith or belief for someone to place actual merit towards it. The keystone of the universe these days is quantum physics. What a confusing pandora's box we've opened for ourselves though with this study. It would seem that things are not at all what them seem through our own perceptions. I mean the simple requirement for human observation of an atom for it to choose its state is huge. In fact it almost makes you wonder if everything that we can "perceive" in this universe is simply an illusion.
Now of course like I mentioned there are two sides to every coin. So we could look at complex structures such as DNA and write it off as an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters right? Of course we can. Or we can look at the complexity of the genetic code and realise that it is no different than a computer program. A program that can be spliced with different genes to create all organic life throughout the world. Could this have happened by coincidence? Absolutely. The fact is though if we want to stay human for a minute here we could argue that all programs require a programmer.
This would be SO easy if humans were able to see reality wouldn't it? If we could all view the same scenario and see the same thing. If we didn't have our senses and previous experiences to bias and rape our interpretation of events. It would be very easy and we would all likely believe the exact same things. What would we believe though? Would we believe that we are an aftershadow of a neverending vortex? That we exist through a random series of events that created human beings? Or that we were seeded and are being controlled by something else to fulfill a certain purpose?
I know it just... sounds so twilight zone doesn't it? And lets be honest, life is very far from perfect. I mean with the amount of "mistakes" that life has made. Stillbirths, mutations, retardation, extinction. It doesn't even seem possible does it? Well as I mentioned there's that other side of the coin again... Could it be that deaths and mutations happen to influence human behaviour? I mean if we "think" that human observation is required for matter to exist in the universe, technically we are the puppetmasters controlling everything. To have a child die at birth is such a hard lesson in life. It's just amazing that humans were designed to think and percieve with emotion or life experience to determine their personalities.
Is that another code? Could that be the pattern that we all follow to the end of our lives? Could it be our lives are predetermined from the absolute get go so our conciousness can experience new things and adapt to become a certain way?
Of course not. That's ridiculous. We're just a bunch of evolved monkey's that are swinging through life. When we die our conciousness ceases to exist. Right? That damn coin is annoying me now.
Hmmm... So why all of this? Why are we here or is there really no purpose to anything? We can debate back and forth all day long.
There is something very similar between Atheists and Theists. You've all committed yourselves to believe in something based on faith that some of you consider to be fact when it is not. To categorize one's beliefs is a cult. To make it mainstream it is a religion.
Ignorance is bliss. As is evolution. The moment you accept your own ignorance of the universe and accept that you know nothing you have just gained the ability to know everything. Don't hate theism and don't hate atheism. You are both on the same path's to understanding your existence.
That should not be a rivalry, it should be a partnership.