RRS get's on sanshou's nerves
Offline Sanshou is a guy I've known in the irc chatroom created and hosted by Janice Rael, aka Everlasting GodStopper, or for short, "Stopper." He's decided that The RRS Gets On His Nerves, and that they'd be more fitting as evangelicals. He won't explain why. I'm sure it's the usual "they're so immature" bullshit. But since I've known him in that irc room for around 2 years, I've seen him talk to theists plenty and I wonder what the fuck makes him think he's any better?! Also fucked up is that Stopper stopped in to declare "not my drama, not my problem" but also quote an article that wants the rrs removed from blogrolls, links, and discussion across the blogosphere. The article displays a complete misunderstanding if not twisting of an encounter with Braden of Unorthodox Atheism. Amazing how vacuous the arguments against RRS always seem to be.
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Wow aerik, they ganged up on you pretty quickly! Is that a freethought group?
-Renee
"Inaction breeds doubt and fear. Action breeds confidence and courage.
If you want to conquer fear, do not sit home and think about it.
Go out and get busy."
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Wow. Shame on you for trying to put the blog post that was referenced by others into context, aerik. Don't you know when context is provided it often makes the issues clearer and people then look stupid for jumping on the rumor and insult wagon. That just takes all the fun out of being an immature judgmental whiner. Why must you ruin everyone's fun?
Seriously, is that what passes for valid criticism these days?
“Philosophers have argued for centuries about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but materialists have always known it depends on whether they are jitterbugging or dancing cheek to cheek" -- Tom Robbins
They are obviously a bunch of dipshits, especially considering their moronic assertion that ED is a reliable and factual source, and it's taking every ounce of my will-power to not go there and just fucking expose every person there for the immature and idiotic reasons they have for starting the thread and then perpetuating it while making assumptions about who we are, what we do, and our internal motivations for our actions. Good job, assholes. It's hard enough to associate myself with this species without seeing so much of this bullshit from supposed "skeptics". Skeptical as long as it doesn't come from a completely random source about whom there is no substantive proof that he is not just making shit up and drawing inferences that don't exist. Who's riding on whom's coattails here? Somebody just wanted to pretend to expose us on his blog to get publicity, if you ask me.
I've gots ta git B-to-tha-izzack ta plott'n mah nefarious pizzle ta destroy tha public image of atheists n bitchez.Wow, Kelly is so hot.
God fucking damnit, just wrote a two hour piece exposing these fucking idiots, and I lost it. Aerik, I love you man but these RRS hate issues are issues I just ignore due to stupidity, however when they pop up in my house I feel the need to respond. I just spent two hours on it, and will now need to spend more time. Time that could have been used on actual humans, not subhumans like the morons you're mingling with.
I'll swap the info with this post when I'm done.
If you do want me to respond to these, I will out of respect to you... a great thinker.
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
No it's a fascist nazi group. Janice Rael/Godstopper is proud to moderate message boards like a gestapo. She went to IIDB to become a mod, even though there were reason to dislike them, because she liked having the ability to censor people. I'm not exaggerating I'm recounting real conversations with her. Ask Jake about how when someone posed a thread about beastiality back in the day on the AN she was so restrictive about the speech she told Jake that if he didn't ban the user she would leave. This was at a time when we all tried to embrace her even though she has a closet of problems that rivals Jeffrey Dahmer. Thankfully Jake doesn't take well to ultimatums from Nazi cuntlicks who have low self esteem and stab the people in the back who try to protect her.
More on that cunt coming soon.
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
Allegedly the "evil atheist conspiracy" section of the forum is supposed to be a freethought world.
RantsNRaves got the atheist section when Stopper led the rebellion against the quite fascist regime (as fascist as any online-only organization can get) that runs the forums at iidb.infidels.org. Stopper talked to several forums, and found that at RnR, the administration sympathized with us refugees from IIDB and agreed with us about their behavior. So Stopper was allowed to lead us there and I think that's when that section of the forum was created.
But it already had it's own population, so that makes it full of unintelligent conversation and I find 99% of the activity on the site is wonting.
I'd have ignored it too if not for Stopper quoting the hit piece about Braden. That felt like a knife in my side, really it did. She quoted that shit as if that guy had a real point to make.
Not only is providing context for a post referenced by others scary, but apparently to Sinister, it's wholly irrelevant behavior.
Her favorite part about IIDB was the fascism. That's why she went there. She wanted to be able to censor as much as possible.
I got tied up tonight Aerik. I talked with the stickam room in a vague manner about this. In order to vindicate myself, I'd end up putting a chink in the career of someone who I feel is more important to the cause than myself. Maybe their desire to see me stay quiet on this, plus my lost post earlier is a sign from Jake. I don't care what people think of me, I care about the cause. I can take a few hits on the chin from people who lack necessary faculties, for the good of the cause.
Do you know the entire truth... because you came close but missed a little of it. Do you want it at the expense of "you-know-who" being outed? In case it's not clear, I don't care if you cheat on your wife, I care if the woman who you cheat with is a detriment to the cause due to hypocrisy involving sex though. You can read between the lines, but I can't see how you'd fully get it if I didn't break it all down. I think the closest I should get are vague references. So... do I waste the time or not?
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
I hope that I won't have to take sides between the RRS and RnR.
Do you think that sanshou's criticisms make any sense? I will concede that the name "Brian Sapient" seems pretentious, but I don't quite understand the rest of his criticisms.
And I must say that I'm annoyed by seebs's criticisms. He seems to think that the RRS and the Church of Scientology are natural allies because Scientology also opposes Xianity.
Scientology looks like some mishmash of science fiction, psychoanalysis, Gnosticism, and Eastern religions, combined with an autocratic, moneygrubbing, and belligerent leadership. And Scientologists hate psychiatrists and psychiatry. So I can't imagine any of you RRS people taking it seriously.
For the lowdown on it, check out http://www.xenu.net and especially The Xenu Leaflet: Who is Xenu?
Xenu is Scientology's version of the Gnostic villain god Yaldabaoth, theta is spirit, thetans are souls, body thetans are demons, etc.
As I understood it, the RRS's main problem (and mine alike) with Anonymous's dealings with Scientology was their illegal activities, not their protests. The RRS's position was actually one of social responsibility and accountability and an opposition to vigilante acts. It had nothing to do with their supporting Scientology.
“Philosophers have argued for centuries about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but materialists have always known it depends on whether they are jitterbugging or dancing cheek to cheek" -- Tom Robbins
No I think he has very little thinking ability.
All a good mind has to do is ask... the story has been told many times... the ex admin on the atheist network gave me the name after I had no clue what to call myself. The conversation ocurred 10 minutes after I called the FBI due to the first real death threat I ever received, the threat was actually on my sons life.
Smash head in with brick, then see if he can figure out how to google scientology on our website to see what we think about them.
We've been fighting scientology since before the b/tards who run anon were born.
My letter to Janice was posted (violation of federal law by that fucking moron), I was hoping I would post it first, it was embedded in the comment that I lost yesterday. Oh well, maybe I'll add context later....
To Janice Rael:
A letter from all of us at RRS... Go fuck yourself. We see you in public, and we'll let everyone in the room know about your baggage. Bitch. http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?t=7740 You're fucking scum. So glad none of the atheist groups want you back. Idiot.He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
I'll think about it for the next 5 hours, but we might have our show topic for tonight.
Why certain people at RnR who think they are freethinkers, are in actuality gigantic fucking morons. We may also start telling stories about how insecure, insane, sick, and back stabbing, the cunt Janice Rael is. I think I'll spend at least 5 minutes recounting the desire of Janice Rael to run a board like a Nazi. We'll have Jake on for a minute (if he cares enough to show up) so he can return fire for all the times she has lied and misrepresented the story of her childish, immature, and very non-freethinker activity on the atheist network, that out of respect he has stayed silent (like me) for apparently way too long.
I'll think about it, maybe we'll just touch it for a few minutes.
And Lpetrich, your comments over there have me thinking much less of you. Way to step down on the totem pole. You like those retards?
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
I have just remembered that my name was actually chosen by both Jake and Aaron on a 3 way conversation. It was the first name suggested and they both concurred. I have always been proud and honored that I didn't choose the name myself. But the moron Sanshou wouldn't know that because he lacks the critical inquiry ability to fucking ask.
Aerik, you partially hold the public fate of a very important man in your hands. What shall I do? Want me to pick everything apart, even the post from the dogmatic "godbegone?"
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
RRS really kicks ass!
this thread contains at least one, maybe two threats
Aerik, and company... for now you should know this post was written about the situation that Godpooper referenced (she must really hate RD, be a moron, or be butthurt about our letter to her 3 days ago when she begged us to remove Latnijral and we said no) at the time.
This post is about the issue at hand, but nobody knew that until now because we've done everything we could to protect "you-know-who."
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
Wtf are you talking about with "protecting you-know-who"? Is that supposed to imply that your recent asshatery has some kind of benevolent purpose?
Who the fuck cares?
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slightly off topic but i'm curious. it's a violation of federal law to post e-mail communications?
Beltway Atheists "We're good people, just not god people."
Yes.
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
It depends on the circumstances. For example if you send a message to our contact section, it says the following...
If you notice there have been several times when I have posted my letter to someone but not their letter to me. Here is an example from months ago. And believe me, the letter was hilarious, I really wanted to post it. Notice the disclaimer I added in order to be able to reproduce future emails.
In case she decides to pull it, here is her criminal activity...
Now you might ask.... how can I post the above? The answer is because fair use law allows you to post public communications for the purposes of parody, criticism, or commentary. So far I have commentated on the event, a judge would likely see me as being self defensive as well. Furthermore I can add a tinge of parody to the article by noting that the sexy picture of Janice is a poor representation of her. She's more like a 380 pound whale, not that I have anything against people being overweight, I just find the deceit to be funny.
Here is the real Janice Rael...
That was about 5 months ago.
This was about 19 months ago...
Now before you go getting all upset that it's rude to point these pictures out, keep in mind that first of all Janice is peddling libel about me which she has to be an idiot to believe considering the very long history I have with her. I have always done everything I could to be nice to her. Remember the special forum I mad for "Godstopper Activism" for her when she got kicked off of IIDB for stabbing them in the back? Even though I disagreed with both her and IIDB, I tried to support the cause and support her. She resigned from all activism (she was board member of several groups, and simply abandoned them due to how butthurt she was that nobody would pay her way (the right move on their part). None of those groups jumped to get her back, something all activist groups do when they lose someone valuable, however they seemed to know she was a piece of high maintenance baggage.
Oh back to her being a 400 pound whale and pretending like she's a hot sexy chick. This isn't some lazy condition she's had from birth. Here is Janice and I from about 6 years ago:
Oh right back to her criminal activity....
From the USDOJ
More importantly from this page...
This makes it very clear that the writer of an email controls the right of reproduction (publishing) which is mentioned in section 106 subsection (1).
Jake will be in the stickam room tonight to explain the censorship aims and the lack of freethought in the mind of Janice Rael, I too will be talking smack about the backstabbing deceitful criminal activities of Janice Rael, Godstopper, Everlasting Godstopper. Show begins 8pm est, rants and raves children are welcome to come. We'll be glad to be an open book.
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
Apparently some athinkers that are fanboys of Janice. I wouldn't have cared, but Aerik posted in my living room. (no offense to him, I like him a lot)
He's not the man he wants you to think he is. Go to The Real John McCain to learn about the double talk express. View these videos about John McCain to learn about the flip-flopping double talker.
What's amazing to me is that the same person who created this obnoxious adhom post managed to get a respected author like Michael Shermer to even glance your way, much less respond to your sophomoric understanding of his work.
How do you figure you manage that?
Was it the youtubes, "Sapient"?
Hey dogmatic Janice follower, that wasn't an ad hom, learn philosophy before you try to use it.
Even more amazing is that he admitted to me he was wrong for his open letter to Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, and Dennett, and that he gave me approval to send that message to everyone who knew of the situation,