I tried talking to "garyvit"

It was interesting... I was honestly wanting him to show me his claims. I started it in a personal chat so he could talk to me without random comments from people, thinking this would make it easier for him.

voiderest: hey grav what is your claim
garyvit: Sapient is an idiot.
garyvit: That is my main claim.
voiderest: so how is he dumb?
garyvit: How is he not?
voiderest: aren't you the one making the claim here?
garyvit: Yeah.
garyvit: Who says I can't ask questions.
garyvit: ?
voiderest: It looked like you wanted me to prove something
voiderest: So what is an example of him being an dumb?

Sapient's picture

Poor logic in atheists disappoints me. War on Christmas thoughts.

I'm often reminded that atheists are not impervious to exhibitions of poor critical thinking, something that the theists who visit this page may find solace in. A good friend of mine has even backed off slightly from his activism against religion to be replaced by activism for solid modes of thought because as he's seen the real problem isn't religion, but it's poor critical thinking skills. Atheism does not always equal rationality or high intelligence or ones ability to abstain from making poor assumptions. I almost feel as if I should qualify my last sentence to note that theistic belief is never rational, as you might assume our position has changed in some way.

Dissident1's picture

Guys and Dolls

In these days of political correctness, it is considered anathema to suggest that there are more differences between males and females than just genitalia. The field of evolutionary psychology has been criticized heavily for every hypothesis that supports such a contention.

Look to a children's show for depicting some obvious behavioural differences between the sexes.

In one episode of The Backyardigans, the three male characters were engaged in play where they were pretending to be heroes in Hawaii. They called themselves "the Luau Brothers" and were enjoying the beach and the sands when they heard something coming from a nearby cave. Inside they encountered the two females, who had dubbed themselves "the Volcano sisters".

pinoy atheist's picture

Just like a spare tire?

What happened when a man lost his faith?

Most people will say that he will become an atheist. Others will say he will just look for a new religion. These frequent answers are the reason why most people think that atheism is a religion and that all atheists are a bunch of angry, cynical theists who just hate God.

I really don’t think that a person angry with his religion or angry at god is automatically considered as an atheist. There are a lot of ways to handle such anger other than going to non-belief. Heck! This is just a reason a Christian believer would like to happen. You know, angry theists are very easily to be converted or re-converted.

pinoy atheist's picture

She Doesn't Believe in Santa Clause

I was surprise to find out that Dr. Christina Yang (portrait by Sandra Oh) from the TV series Grey's Anatomy is an atheist. Well, she said it herself, she doesn’t believe in Santa Clause and she doesn’t believe in God.

The episode was about this kid who’s getting a heart transplant. His mother keeps telling him that his heart came from Santa Clause, yet the kid figure it out that it was all a lie. Dr. Preston Burke (played by Isaiah Washington), the cardiothoracic surgeon (I think he’s Dr. Yang’s boyfriend) had an argument about this and was kind of insulted about Dr. Yang’s attitude towards his religion…’er spirituality as what he wanted to call it. For Dr. Yang spirituality and religion is just the same. Dr. Yang’s boyfriend says that the reason he considers a being “higher than himself” is because without it he feel very helpless.

Dissident1's picture

Ahhh, the holidays

Holidays stink! Work stops, and everyone expects a major outpouring of consumer rewards expressing love and affection.

Most holidays are born of religious traditions and inclinations. Thanksgiving, for instance, holds the idea of thanking a deity as a dominate part of a feast. Born of a nationalistic attitude of being thankful for a new land to conquer, the thanks are given to a particular cultures god.

I do not celebrate any holiday, except maybe National Eat A Banana Day, because everything that is behind the holidays is absolutely meaningless to me.

I also do not believe in the idea of buying presents in abundance to give to a person on a specific day. If I see something in a store that looks like something that someone I love would like, I do something that might seem a little odd. I buy it for that person, if I have enough money, then give it to them. No holding onto it, no hiding it.

Santa Faith

"Do you believe in santa?" That is what my little sister just asked me. Yes she is little enough to have that belief, but I'm not going to lie to her so I told her no. She responded with slight shock and asked me why to which I was a jerk and said, "because." I didn't really feel like I debating her on santa when I'm hungry so I gave her a bit of a run around.

As I walked up the stairs she asked, "Well what happens to the cookies?" I said, "What happens when you eat cookies?" We did the same thing with the milk and she asked, "Can you prove santa isn't there?"

I stopped at that and acting confused said, "Why should I do that? Can you prove the cat isn't there?" We have two cats and a kitty so I just used that as an example. She said, "Well I can look there and see a cat," one of the cats was in the room. I pointed out that I didn't see a santa so she now wants to film him christmas eve.


Why why why does everyone (friends, I don't try this on strangers) get so pissed at me when I attempt to politely explain that saying bless you when I sneeze bothers me. I know and acknowledge that they are trying to be polite but I would rather nor have it. Must I suffer so that someone can feel better about themselves and their manners. I don't get upset when people continue to use it as an unconscious gesture but people become angry with me for even suggesting they try to find an alternative. Also why am I not allowed to refuse to celebrate christmas, I am not christian, it is not my holliday.

Blue Moose's picture

think about it

If one has something mundane to say, one goes to a mundane place, and says it to a mundane group of people, in myspace or something. If one finds a place that is interesting and is full of interesting people, why would you continue to say mundane things?

There are few opportunities in life to voice your considered opinion and actually have it listened to. There are even fewer places where a disagreement means a discussion, or a friendly, intellectual arguement rather than an exchange of insults.

Jesterspace's picture

A fascinating article

Societies worse off 'when they have God on their side'
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

RELIGIOUS belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high murder rates, abortion, sexual promiscuity and suicide, according to research published today.

According to the study, belief in and worship of God are not only unnecessary for a healthy society but may actually contribute to social problems.

The study counters the view of believers that religion is necessary to provide the moral and ethical foundations of a healthy society.

It compares the social peformance of relatively secular countries, such as Britain, with the US, where the majority believes in a creator rather than the theory of evolution. Many conservative evangelicals in the US consider Darwinism to be a social evil, believing that it inspires atheism and amorality.

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