Blacks can be racist too

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For a very, very long time, black people have been treated poorly and with racist people controlling if they voted, drove a car or owned land. It has been an extremely tough road for their race.

Most people don't know this but the slave industry of the 1700's existed long before America was even found by the Europeans. Black tribes would enslave defeated tribes to do their labor. When the white Europeans stumbled on this slave system they took advantage of it. Then in America, cheap slave labor became the backbone of the southern states.

After decades of fighting for equal rights, some of the black community want more than they deserve. They want to use the history of the black slaves from the 1700's to get more rights, but they already have all the rights I have; and more. They can do any thing I can do with even more programs and money being available to them because they are a minority.

Being in real estate, I have had the dishonor of seeing blacks who take advantage of the system.

There was an entire family who collected not only permanent unemployment but disability benefits, but they worked part time for cash and had no disabilities. They spent most of their free time not bettering their lives, but sitting at home smoking weed and watching soap operas or game shows.

When they decided they didn't want to live in the rental property any more they packed up and left with out following the lease agreement. When I called them to tell them the rules and regulations I was told I was a racist and that they were going to report me to the state for racism; they threatened to have my license revoked.

I put them in the system any way and also reported them to the state for their abuses. I don't think it did any good but they also never followed up on their threats because no one ever contacted me about their false claims.

This leaves me with a question of "Have blacks have become hyper-sensitive to any one who doesn't give them what they want; or to agree with their point of view"?

Recently, Fla. Gov. Scott met with seven leaders of various groups wanting to repeal Stand Your Ground.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57594497/fla-governor-refuses-to-revisit-stand-your-ground-law/

In this article, Phillip Agnew states, "We're not here to play games. We're very serious about this. And it pains our heart that we do live in a state where a child can be killed just for the way he looks."

WTF? Really? Are white people going around killing black children? And Trayvon wasn't a fucking child you dimwitted moron. He was 17! and he was smoking weed, and he was a trouble maker. Did he deserve to die? No, but he is as much to blame as Zimmerman.

Then...

"Melanie Andrade, who said her family came from the Cape Verde Islands to work at Disney World, told the governor how she lived in a gated community in central Florida but that she and her brother would constantly be asked for ID by police even when they were standing in their own driveway."

WTF? Constantly? Really?

I had shit stolen from my backyard and I called the sheriff. They came out and knocked on the door, asked who I was, then asked for my fucking ID.

I would say it is a good policy for law enforcement to ask for ID to make sure you ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE. Fuck that racial profiling. She is full of shit.

Does racial profiling happen? Yes but as the leader of the Urban League in Central Fla said, "Just because you profile some one doesn't mean you are a racist".

He is correct. Racism and profiling are two completely different aspects of looking at a person.

I've experienced racism myself from blacks but do I go around fucking crying a river? I'm sure there are other races such as the Chinese or Hispanic who experience racism on a daily basis. This isn't a problem limited to blacks only.

Take this article on "reverse racism" by an obviously ignorant, hyper sensitive black writer.

http://www.insightnews.com/news/11047-cnn-special-commentary-part-i-responding-to-racism-is-not-reverse-racism

I have never seen such ignorance on racism before. He doesn't even have the historical context correct. He even goes as far to claim that WHITE PEOPLE CREATED RACISM? WTF? Really? White people invented racism?

He can't even spell nigger because he is treating the word like fuck or vagina, but he is more than happy to spell out the entire word cracker or honky.

Also, has he not heard of Richard Pryor? Eddie Murphy? Chris Rock?

He then assumes that his problems and experiences are worse than other person, but even more so than any white person. White people don't have problems and they don't experience racism. What a dolt.

In conclusion:

Blacks are equal to whites, just like women and men are equals or Hispanics and non-Hispanics.

They all have their pros and cons, good and bad experiences. We will never have a Utopian society and you need to just get on with your life and realize that there will always be ignorant people out there causing trouble for you just because of your skin color.

 

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And for (Beyond Saving), the

And for (Beyond Saving), the title of this subject is related to the article on "reverse racism" where the writer claims:

"Plainly, to call a black person racist is nonsense. Although Mr. Martin's comment may seem offensive to White Americans, Mr. Martin's was a response out of fear and frustration to the extreme racism/racial profiling and prejudiced he was experiencing in those final moments of life. Mr. Martin was truly being treated like a "n**ga" for absolutely no reason at all; this situation in itself proves the truth that racism does still exist in America, and if the old ghosts of the past are to be buried once and for all, this unfair treatment of black people must all come to an end, and Black America must also stop being complicit in their self-negation of labeling themselves as the n-word (n**ga). Though you may not personally use the term, but condone use of it by others you are equally complicit."

I think he is nuts. Black people can't be racist? Holy shit!

Trayvon's comments were definitely meant to be racist. Black people don't use the words "creepy ass cracker" and say it as if it were a harmless puppy following them.

 

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No ethnicity or 'race' is

No ethnicity or 'race' is free of racism. I agree with you in many respects here.
Fortunately no ethnicity or 'race' is entirely racist.

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Vastet wrote:No ethnicity or

Vastet wrote:
No ethnicity or 'race' is free of racism. I agree with you in many respects here. Fortunately no ethnicity or 'race' is entirely racist.

I can't believe he is an "educated" individual.

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STOP! Malcolm X is one of my

STOP!

Malcolm X is one of my heros, of course not because he was Muslim or black. But because he learned, far too late in life, but did, that WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. But when white people are kicking you in the nuts constantly, what should white people expect?

 

BUT, when anyone says blacks can be racist . NO FUCKING SHIT! Why, not because they are black, but because we are ALL HUMANS. All 7  billion humans are minorities when you consider point of view and physical location. If I live in a Muslim country as an atheist  I am a minority. Even if I lived in China, I would still be a minority.

 

I get tired of the bullshit "reverse discrimination" excuse to ignore the issue.  This post is a result of the Zimmerman case making national news. I got some fuckwad who brought up the murder of a white waitress  where 3 blacks are accused. Ok, and I brought up Temar Boggs, a black kid ON A BICYCLE, chased down a car with a white girl who had been kidnapped, as a result of Temar's chase, the guy let the girl go. I can ask the same question "Why isn't this making national news".

 

Fuck the reverse discrimination bullshit. The issue is ECONOMICS. Blacks are far more likely be arrested for the same crimes as a white person, and far more likely to do more time. The pay gap and education gap  between blacks and whites is still huge. And the republican party nationwide has basically fucked ALL poor people, especially urban locations which are predominately black.

 

There is not one white person reading this, including me, who has not "profiled" even if subconsciously. I hate when I have those feelings. But I am aware of them, and I understand more than most, that when I do have them, It isn't just me, but a long history in culture that has shaped me.

 

All humans will form clicks and tribes and see the "outsider" as a threat. But racism which does exist is used as an excuse to ignore that it does exist. To say what white America goes through on a daily basis as far as poverty, and crime and image, is bullshit. The issue is not race, the issue is GAP in economic equality.

 

So when anyone says "blacks can be racist too", NO FUCKING SHIT, get kicked in the balls enough and you'd hate the person kicking you in the balls.

 

Now, is this an excuse for blacks? No, but it does sicken me that even today, even after Malcolm X and King, and after the voting rights act, and all the progress we claim we claim to have made, whites STILL are making excuses to ignore the economic divide, which is the real problem. And it also seems that republicans ARE trying to turn back the clock on a more pluralistic society.

 

In reality the term "minority" should not exist. When you trace our DNA back far enough all the "races" we are all related. But that does not mean currently at this point in time, that a disparity gap does not exist. Calling blacks racist is ignorant, not because they cant have cultural biases themselves. Calling them racist is bullshit because whites use it as excuse to ignore the inequity.

 

The key is to LISTEN, not to race, but to the concerns of the poor. To address the conditions that make things inequitable. Why is this important? Because whites in the future will be the "minority" according to our current trends. There was one point in NY City history where the Irish were considered the scum of the city in "Hell's kitchen". Much like an atheist is treated with fear just by saying "I don't believe". The same way we as atheists are feared whites needlessly fear blacks, instead of understanding why the conditions exist that cause morons to use "reverse discrimination".

 

If we are all humans first, then the key to bridging the gap is to understand WE WE WE WE WE WE all want the same fucking things. We want food, shelter, love and a means to survive. You wouldn't find "black racists" if those "racists" you accuse didn't have something to be hateful about.

 

I've had the same stereotypes about "Rednecks" being gun totten bible thumpen Mercka loven always vote republican, then I meet Hillbilly Atheist. In my 47 years the one thing that is constant to me is that we tend to point fingers rather than be self introspective. And we still, as proof that posts like this still take place, that we as a species collectively AND FAR TO OFTEN, forget we are the same species.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The only way to end racism

The only way to end racism and human tribalism is to understand we all want the same thing,

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Brian37 wrote:The only way

Brian37 wrote:

The only way to end racism and human tribalism is to understand we all want the same thing,

What's that?

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What do you mean "what?".

What do you mean "what?".

 

"Reverse discrimination" is a cop out excuse caused by "white guilt". Cultural bias, even to the point of prejudice against a world that seems to have abandon your community, does happen. Malcolm X was a black separatist even after getting clean and disavowing crime. But we should be shocked? White America likes to cop out to "they have it much better" and "don't blame me".

Blame is not the issue. Understanding is, but we have failed as a country and should be blamed for ignoring the pay gap between blacks and whites and the education gap between blacks and whites and the arrest/punishment gap between blacks and whites. We have ignored investment in urban areas.

 

Conditions should be the real issue, not race. Humans in evolutionary history display more stability and more cooperation when resources are available to more people. The same behavior is seen in other mammals and other species as well. Why should anyone who is not black or not poor or not urban be surprised that violence and even hate exist in a crappy ecosystem.

We do, no matter what nation, what race, what religion, what political party, we all want resources, and when we don't have them, the ecosystem we live in degenerates, and will every time, no mater who the majority is that lives in that location that lacks resources.

The only way to bridge the gap is to improve economic stability, reduce crime and increase education. "I am not racist" is not an excuse.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:For a

digitalbeachbum wrote:

For a very, very long time, black people have been treated poorly and with racist people controlling if they voted, drove a car or owned land. It has been an extremely tough road for their race.

Most people don't know this but the slave industry of the 1700's existed long before America was even found by the Europeans. Black tribes would enslave defeated tribes to do their labor. When the white Europeans stumbled on this slave system they took advantage of it. Then in America, cheap slave labor became the backbone of the southern states.

After decades of fighting for equal rights, some of the black community want more than they deserve. They want to use the history of the black slaves from the 1700's to get more rights, but they already have all the rights I have; and more. They can do any thing I can do with even more programs and money being available to them because they are a minority.

Being in real estate, I have had the dishonor of seeing blacks who take advantage of the system.

There was an entire family who collected not only permanent unemployment but disability benefits, but they worked part time for cash and had no disabilities. They spent most of their free time not bettering their lives, but sitting at home smoking weed and watching soap operas or game shows.

When they decided they didn't want to live in the rental property any more they packed up and left with out following the lease agreement. When I called them to tell them the rules and regulations I was told I was a racist and that they were going to report me to the state for racism; they threatened to have my license revoked.

I put them in the system any way and also reported them to the state for their abuses. I don't think it did any good but they also never followed up on their threats because no one ever contacted me about their false claims.

This leaves me with a question of "Have blacks have become hyper-sensitive to any one who doesn't give them what they want; or to agree with their point of view"?

Recently, Fla. Gov. Scott met with seven leaders of various groups wanting to repeal Stand Your Ground.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57594497/fla-governor-refuses-to-revisit-stand-your-ground-law/

In this article, Phillip Agnew states, "We're not here to play games. We're very serious about this. And it pains our heart that we do live in a state where a child can be killed just for the way he looks."

WTF? Really? Are white people going around killing black children? And Trayvon wasn't a fucking child you dimwitted moron. He was 17! and he was smoking weed, and he was a trouble maker. Did he deserve to die? No, but he is as much to blame as Zimmerman.

Then...

"Melanie Andrade, who said her family came from the Cape Verde Islands to work at Disney World, told the governor how she lived in a gated community in central Florida but that she and her brother would constantly be asked for ID by police even when they were standing in their own driveway."

WTF? Constantly? Really?

I had shit stolen from my backyard and I called the sheriff. They came out and knocked on the door, asked who I was, then asked for my fucking ID.

I would say it is a good policy for law enforcement to ask for ID to make sure you ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE. Fuck that racial profiling. She is full of shit.

Does racial profiling happen? Yes but as the leader of the Urban League in Central Fla said, "Just because you profile some one doesn't mean you are a racist".

He is correct. Racism and profiling are two completely different aspects of looking at a person.

I've experienced racism myself from blacks but do I go around fucking crying a river? I'm sure there are other races such as the Chinese or Hispanic who experience racism on a daily basis. This isn't a problem limited to blacks only.

Take this article on "reverse racism" by an obviously ignorant, hyper sensitive black writer.

http://www.insightnews.com/news/11047-cnn-special-commentary-part-i-responding-to-racism-is-not-reverse-racism

I have never seen such ignorance on racism before. He doesn't even have the historical context correct. He even goes as far to claim that WHITE PEOPLE CREATED RACISM? WTF? Really? White people invented racism?

He can't even spell nigger because he is treating the word like fuck or vagina, but he is more than happy to spell out the entire word cracker or honky.

Also, has he not heard of Richard Pryor? Eddie Murphy? Chris Rock?

He then assumes that his problems and experiences are worse than other person, but even more so than any white person. White people don't have problems and they don't experience racism. What a dolt.

In conclusion:

Blacks are equal to whites, just like women and men are equals or Hispanics and non-Hispanics.

They all have their pros and cons, good and bad experiences. We will never have a Utopian society and you need to just get on with your life and realize that there will always be ignorant people out there causing trouble for you just because of your skin color.

 

 

  

 

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Brian37 wrote:The only way

Brian37 wrote:

The only way to bridge the gap is to improve economic stability, reduce crime and increase education. "I am not racist" is not an excuse.

I think every one at some point and time is a racist; and with that I mean you have either thought, acted or said something which was derogatory towards another person because of their skin color.

Black people have a ton of opportunity given to them. They have been claiming for decades that their ancestors were mistreated and abused. Well fuck, how far back can I go to complaint that my ancestors were raped, pillaged and made slaves?

Rome, Greece, Athens, China, the Pacific, Middle East, South America and Africa have all had their hands dirtied with this shit.

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Chuckles

 

During the depression my mother lived in a house made of sacks for ten years. Her father molested his daughters. Her mother had an interesting way of terminating her own unwanted pregnancies and was violent. According to mum, this was quite normal. Life then was gritty, painful, hand to mouth. It often seems to me that western social commentators think modernity with its supermarkets, antibiotics, painkillers, public education, flush toilets and electric power has been enjoyed by whites since the middle ages.  

I think we'd agree that life is hard for everyone. Too many people die in agony, or insane and unwanted, or alone in barely-there aged care. But I do think it's harder for some. The impacts of evil shit - slavery, colonisation and dispossession (of poor Europeans as well as of new world populations), social dysfunction, abuse, lack of education and war ripple through generations, perhaps in part through epigenetics, but certainly through broken cultural structures and a collective loss of self and group respect. 

I live in the centre of my town on the verge of housing commission and the culture of the inhabitants there is consistently rough. Growing up in a culture of swearing every second fucken word, fucken drinking, fucken smoking, and bloody fucken screamin' as a form of conflict resolution, drawing fucken benefits and generally just lacking the fucken motivation to achieve a fucken thing at all would be hard to break free from. The folks in the houso are mostly white, BTW. 

Racism is definitely universal. For people on struggle street it's an easy way to cop out of responsibility. Blame the man. But there are also measurable prejudices against minorities that can't be denied. Of course, it's wrong as a middle aged white man to have an opinion on such things. As you all know, we white men are ever so privileged and powerful (yes dear, that's right, lower in another bunch of grapes and break out the baby oil), as to be completely insulated from all human suffering. We have never been unemployed and are immortal. 

As demographics change it will be a relief to finally become a member of the oppressed white minority. Getting up every fucken morning, fucken washing, fucken shaving, then dragging my fucken arse to work to pay the fucken bills is too fucken much. 

 

 

 

 

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digitalbeachbum

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The only way to end racism and human tribalism is to understand we all want the same thing,

What's that?

Food, shelter, companionship, and a means to survive. And the ability to bitch without fearing being murdered.

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Brian37

Brian37 wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The only way to end racism and human tribalism is to understand we all want the same thing,

What's that?

Food, shelter, companionship, and a means to survive. And the ability to bitch without fearing being murdered.

Anorexics, loners and people who are suicidal. It is ridiculous to claim we all want the same thing. People have a wide range of wants/desires. Some people don't want anything at all, some want everything and most are in between. 

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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The clickety clack go echoing back the blues in the night

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Atheistextremist wrote:

 

I think we'd agree that life is hard for everyone. Too many people die in agony, or insane and unwanted, or alone in barely-there aged care. But I do think it's harder for some than others.

I think we'd agree that life is hard for everyone. Too many people die in agony, or insane and unwanted, or alone in barely-there aged care. But I do think it's harder for some. The impacts of evil shit - slavery, colonisation and dispossession (of poor Europeans as well as of new world populations), social dysfunction, abuse, lack of education and war ripple through generations, perhaps in part through epigenetics, but certainly through broken cultural structures and a collective loss of self and group respect.

 
    
 
         
  Going back in this nation's musical past, going back when gasoline was cheap at the pump, there was a musical genre simply known as: the blues. It is still around but not near as popular as it used to be in the Big Band era. Its' form, was formed, in the Black communities of the "Deep South" almost but not exclusively. With 'the Blues', it originated in African-American communities of, [of] the United States, at the end of the 19th century originally. As a musical genre, it had its' own (specific) elements, which had to be included, to be considered a apt and correct form in a 'true' blues song. Having combined the Nergo spirituals, rhymed jazz, worker songs and "simple narrative ballads" that comprised it.    In the content that is indicative for the genre (in composing). I'm only going to say this one time, Much like the Psalms are its' own unique genre, being about Praise and lament. So if you were to simulate them, it must include and contain elements of both Praise and Lament, making it sound similar to be considered an accurate expression (of an attempt at an example of the genre)
 
  White singers had some difficulty in replicating the genre, in the 1930s-1950s in the United States. Due chiefly to they didn't have the personal hardships nor personal experience comparable to draw on as inspiration, so no depth in their blues. Although hardships are universal, not exclusive to any one group. Though as a minority then, it often was guaranteeing having the senses bombarded with indignities associated with the color of their skin, for the coloured!

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Brian37

Brian37 wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The only way to end racism and human tribalism is to understand we all want the same thing,

What's that?

Food, shelter, companionship, and a means to survive. And the ability to bitch without fearing being murdered.

You think Trayvon was murdered don't you?

Also, while many desires overlap, we all don't want the same thing.

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He was murdered. But the

He was murdered.

But the idea that everyone wants the same thing is ridiculous.

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Vastet wrote:He was

Vastet wrote:
He was murdered. But the idea that everyone wants the same thing is ridiculous.

Murder would, by definition, require premeditation.

 

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Lol you're an idiot. 1st

Lol. 1st degree murder is murder by premeditation. Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being.

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Vastet wrote:Lol. 1st degree

Vastet wrote:
Lol. 1st degree murder is murder by premeditation. Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being.

Bzzzzz. Wrong answer.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Vastet

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Vastet wrote:
Lol. 1st degree murder is murder by premeditation. Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being.

Bzzzzz. Wrong answer.

 

Second degree murder is murder with intent, but without premeditation. My grandfather got life in prison for murdering someone in a bar fight. Not premeditated, just drunk and aggressive.

Vastet is correct.

 

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 In Florida, 2nd degree

 In Florida, 2nd degree murder requires the prosecution to demonstrate that the killer acted with a "depraved mind regardless of human life" so it doesn't necessarily require intent and does not require premeditation at all. Any killing that is done in the commission of another felony is also 2nd degree automatically.

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-second-degree-murder-laws.html

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html  

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And you fail basic English.

"Bzzzzz. Wrong answer."

And you fail basic English. Grats!

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cj wrote:digitalbeachbum

cj wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Vastet wrote:
Lol. 1st degree murder is murder by premeditation. Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being.

Bzzzzz. Wrong answer.

 

Second degree murder is murder with intent, but without premeditation. My grandfather got life in prison for murdering someone in a bar fight. Not premeditated, just drunk and aggressive.

Vastet is correct.

 

Actually, his statement is split.

I was commenting on the "Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being".

This is an incorrect statement.

 

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Vastet wrote:"Bzzzzz. Wrong

Vastet wrote:
"Bzzzzz. Wrong answer." And you fail basic English. Grats!

Bzzzz wrong again.

"Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being".

This is an incorrect statement and what I was originally commenting on.

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Beyond Saving wrote: In

Beyond Saving wrote:

 In Florida, 2nd degree murder requires the prosecution to demonstrate that the killer acted with a "depraved mind regardless of human life" so it doesn't necessarily require intent and does not require premeditation at all. Any killing that is done in the commission of another felony is also 2nd degree automatically.

http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-second-degree-murder-laws.html

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html  

I agree. What I wanted or failed to specify was that Vaz's comment that "murder was simply..." was incorrect.

"Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being" is an incorrect statement.

By his definition, if I had a loaded gun and was firing at a target down range, but didn't know that some one was further down range with out my knowledge and died from a round that I fired, I would be, by his definition, a murderer.

 

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Vastet

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Vastet wrote:
"Bzzzzz. Wrong answer." And you fail basic English. Grats!

Bzzzz wrong again.

"Murder is simply the act of killing a human being by a human being".

This is an incorrect statement and what I was originally commenting on.

Still failing basic English.

"By his definition, if I had a loaded gun and was firing at a target down range, but didn't know that some one was further down range with out my knowledge and died from a round that I fired, I would be, by his definition, a murderer."

That's THE definition, not MY definition. Back to school for you.

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